Re: Laser Energetic DETOX (LED) any experienced with it

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Lita,

Several years ago we did a series of LED detox's....because of our progressive

highly trained docs here in WA many of us have done quite a bit of laser support

& detoxification....all showed improvements. Am I glad I did it, yes. We've

personally moved forward & I now favor someone highly trained in the Scalar

laser.

While I personally know of 2 recovering ASD biomed children that ended up in

detox rashes, one being my son while detoxing plasitic had his hands break out

in a detox rash...the other child broke out in a bartonella rash while betoxing

bart (you can see the child's story & picture is in the LIA group

pictures/messages from a couple of years ago...if you want message #'s to review

them just let me know, I have them logged in my " favorite posts " log. If you are

not on that group, just let me know & I'll copy & paste my posts including

's LED detox schedule....every child can be different, but it may give you

an overview of what we did....btw, we did Quantum Neurology (QN) laser

rehabilitation with the LED, this helped tremendously as well.

For us, his reading jumped 2 years in 6 months allowing him to stay in a general

ed environment....this was big for us. All this is documented by his school test

scores and I spoke on it at the 2010 (or maybe it was 2009...can't remember, but

think it was the 2010 LIA presentation of Dr ...she trained w/Dr

Klinghardt and use to share an office w/Dr Amy)...great stories throughout our

WA group under both these docs care.

Just let me know if you would like to see our schedule, I'd be happy to post it

up for you.

Blessings,

Rita

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Of note...mainly fyi (heartfixer info):

I've just looked at some of my old LED posts on the LIA group (from 2009...man

time flies!)

One of the posts had some links I had found informative...a couple of them no

longer work...but I found the following to be very interesting (once again!) &

appreciated refreshing my memory w/all the GREAT useful info on this site. It's

" Heartfixer " ...LOVE this docs philosophy!

http://www.heartfixer.com/CHC%20-%20Diagnostic%20Studies.htm

On this page, 6th from the bottom talks about " digital homeopathy " , the LED &

Asyra (we used the Asyra w/our LED detox...we have gone to the Zyto which I find

even more useful (if run by a highly trained clinician...we Love Micheal Payne @

LWT when it comes to our Zyto's).

Great website w/lots of info for young & old...

Blessings,

Rita

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Lita,

I just copied for you part of a LIA post done in 2008 that had 's LED

detox for your info....this includes some of my notes of what we experienced at

the time....I know all kids are different, but hope this helps you with some of

our experience:

-----copy of part of my LIA post from 2008-----

" 's 1st LED detox was also the Sulfa by itself. It was

explained to me that you need to clear the Sulfa to bring in the

sulfer containing chelators to bind up the metals that the

subsequent viral/bacterial/metal LED's will release. Clearing the

sulfer so you can get the good chelators on board to mop up the

stirred up mess that is to come is a very important 1st step. For

after 3+ years of successful chelation (DMSA, DMPS, ALA &

others) 's body was pretty stressed with Sulfer products. He's

been on Chlorella (which his body really likes) but other than that,

with as heavy of a detox as the LED brings, we needed to know we

could bring in a heavy duty binder and not have his body stress. We

ran a total of 3 Asyra's during our treatments. DE had to alter the

schedule the Asyra set up quite a bit due to the heavy detox

reaction he got from the treatments (a well trained muscle testing

practioner is priceless when doing these treatments).

Here's our actual LED Detox schedule right from the dr notes (if you

need to know what the abreviations are, go to the files and look up

the LED Detox Instructions...they are very interesting and you can

learn what some of the toxins are and where they come from):

1) Sulfa

2) Re-do Sulfa, mercury & mumps (6 days later he developed a rash

and extra OCD. We also had a major metals/viral stress shift from

the brain from the QN and LED detox...extra binders & supports put

in place and it altered the LED schedule).

3) URA & rabies (not ready for Pb)

4) CBC & Smallpox (caught cold)

5) Lead, re-ran smallpox & CBC

6) MEK, Tetnus (extra stimmy, eyeblinking OCD)

7) re-ran MEK & tetnus + polio & pulsing EBV w/infared laser

8) (New Asyra) Hg I, II, III, Halo & PHF (drooling...common for him

with a good Hg pull, OCD and lots of brain fog/non-focus...teachers

complained wondering what's going on).

9) DS & GHON

10) (New Asyra) Sulfa & red flower PS + mercury II

11) Red toxins w/yellow flower DS, red non-metals, polio, 245T, PHF,

MEK group, dental chord (devoloped sand paper rash on hands and

lightly on chest, pictures of it in the photo section of the group,

I figure the rash was the plastics detox, because he had done many

of the other ones before without this bad of reaction)

12) Yellow non-metals, HepB, infl mix, invermectin, rubella, DDT

group, ammonium manaticum, w/red flowers

13) red metals, tin, cadmium

14) yellow metals, cobalt

Weekly, just before doing the LED detox, we did QN for rehab and

detox/organ support. At this time we rested with the LED detox and

went to monthly QN rehab/organ support appts which we continue to

do. Our LED detoxes were done from Jan-about May 2008. "

My biggest note, I really believe doing the QN with the LED detox added to the

improvements that we saw.

Blessings,

Rita

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Lita,

One other note that I thought I'd mention, there was a good interchange w/other

knowledgable parents on the LIA board at the time (Dec 2008), one that I highly

trust...her son was the one that broke out in a bartonella rash that cleared

w/in a few days of the bartonella LED detox. She posted some good info as well,

but not being my post, I can't pass you her post, only my own. It was commented

by 3 different people in the thread that the food sensitivity was not that

effective, but UTM (Urine Toxic Metals)reports showed it's higher toxic metal

dumpings from LED detoxing viral & lyme including co-infections....in other

words, the best toxic metal detox was actually accomplished detoxing viral &

lyme+co-infections as documented by UTM's...at least that's what our experience

has been.

Hope this further helps,

Rita

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Hi Rita:

What is full name of the doctor that you used for the laser detox therapy? Also

I tried searching for the LIA group ...could not find it. What name to I input

to find the group?

Thanks so much

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Thanks for your great chime in!!

I have heard many, many parent stories of toxic metal reports (UTM's) of the

toxic metal detoxing HIGHER while detoxing viruses/bacterias/lyme+co-organisms

than the UTM's are when just chelating....in other words, multiple parents have

documented UTM's to show the toxic metal was greater. If you are on either

Chelatingkids2 (closed around 2009) or the LIA yahoo group (especially some

threads in 2008-2009). If you are on either of these groups I'll pass you

off-list several post #'s from my " Greatest Posts Spreadsheet " that will connect

you so several posts that has the parents telling you of these UTM finds....

Just letting you know, you're not a lone parent commenting on this...

Blessings,

Rita

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The very best is Dr here in WA...she does LED with QN. We also have an

RN that is highly trained in the Scalar Laser which is currently one of my

favorite lasers....the same RN that has the Scalar Laser also has been highly

trained in laser acupuncture which is very non-invasive & we find very

effective....because of the high level docs we have in this area, once again WA

is one of the best places to do some of these more advanced treatments....many

that I have known over the years have flown to this area to receive these

treatments with some very remarkable results. For us, no one thing has been a

huge WOW, just slow steady gains/improvements.

People use to contact Dr Lee Cowden's office to get a referral as he's the one

that trained most of them. I looked back to get you his #, he use to be in TX,

but I think he moved, sorry I can't get you his #....maybe call Nutramedix to

see if they can direct you.

Dr here in WA does the LED in conjunction w/Quantum Neurology (QN)

which I believes supports the organs/body better. I also did a good Ionic

Footbath (Ioncleanse from AMajorDifference.com) 24 hrs after every LED detox to

help him move the toxins out. Again, we benefited from a practioner well trained

in multiple effective lasers. Scalar is at the top of my list. At this point in

time if I were to do something like this again, I would take a serious look @

Payne @ LWT's Solamar Intensive program that uses his Zyto...having

worked w/Yasko he brings in the genetic piece + Energetic Detox....he just did

an intensive in TX

http://lwtinternational.com/

I've been through A Lot over the last 7+ years w/these GREAT practioners - My

top recommendation (with or without LED) remains Immusist...getting on it w/help

support the organs to assist the detox. This is aiding my sons body to detox

(our docs were pleasently surprised that my son is currently in a chemical detox

cycle as his primary stressor...this amazed them that his could be doing this

naturally (we did not to add some more binders for this). I've heard

stories/seen pics of kids go into detox rashes as the lasers sweep the child

with a good viral/herbal protocol. The LED detox is an intensive detox & all the

support you can give them before they go into it the better.

Blessings,

Rita

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Accidentally deleted this message in the moderation queue.

From: d_woodin@...

Hi Rita:

Do you have a link to Dr. and the RN? Lee Cowden now lives in Panama

City but you can link with him on Facebook. He is now the chairman of The

Academy of Integrative Medicine

see

http://www.acimconnect.com/Home/AboutUs/AcademyProfessors.aspx

This is a site for practicitioners and others to learn about integrative

medicine. Mercola and Klinghardt are also listed as professors of this academy.

Very interesting website....you do have to pay to watch the webinars etc.

Blessings

Marie

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I fully agree with you, certain groups ( & many of my family & friends) don't

seem to think this could happen...I've understood this for years...and this is

the case for many alternative things I've done over the years.

I spent many, many nights that I should have been sleeping & wore myself out

researching this before investing in something as pricy as this is as I'm on a

very limited budget. I had specific goals in mind in doing this, the main goals

were to help his struggling body detox pretty safely & the second was to help

keep him in gen ed as he was struggling to the point that the school wanted to

bus him an hour a day (one way) across town to an alternative school because he

was falling behind in academics. At the time, these treatments were the best I

could find to give him the boost I felt he could use. We did like 15 treatments

1 week apart...got our own laser to do " homework " @ home...still one of my

favorite biomed tools. I fully believe the doc has A LOT to do with the success.

In the end it did help my son, his reading jumped almost 2 years from the 3rd

grade Spring testing to the 4th grade Fall testing (we did the 15 week series

from mid spring to early summer) as documented by his school tests....his

comprehension improved as well as his reading speed (though I saw even more

gains on this going to the Kangen water in the 5th grade).

Many, in fact probably most things I've done groups have not believed in....I'm

ok with that as a mom, my son is doing so much better, not recovered but better

than they ever said he'd do. Over the last 7 years my recovery goal has changed.

In Kindergarden my goal was to recover him, now I'm pleased with the slow steady

improvements that have lead him to better health with more cognitive abilities.

Yes, we have done multiple parasite treatments over the years...like our docs

Powerpoint points out...parasites are the hardest to lab test but the 1st to

treat...

Blessings,

Rita

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believe metals and viruses are linked also that parasites are very overlooked

part of the puzzle.

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I'm so sorry for your frustration. I wish I could waive a majic wand & know what

would be best for every child....the only thing left for me to recommend at this

point that would not require travel would be with LWT & his Zyto. Having

worked w/Yasko he may be able to help direct you w/something like genetics,

thinking especially of things like the MTHFR...you did MB12, but maybe there is

a breakdown like the MTHFR that also needs to be addressed...just like the

" Heartfixer " talks about. Detox will help but it's not resolving your

problem...going back to the root of the problem like he spoke of may be where

your missing link is........this is where my family has evolved to this last

year & it is helping further.

We've had to look at many things over the last 7 years...no 1 thing has been the

WOW for us. In this time we've done just about all the chelation protocols out

there, all ART directed, all very successfully & he's still dumping metals.

We've also done almost every natural anti-viral (we're still on a maintenence

dose of LDM-100 for our family...in fact I just gave him an extra dose yesterday

of 10 drops LDM-100 in with 10 drops Immusist when he came home not feeling

well). After 7 years of this we are truely looking forward to the day that we

can back off of some of this stuff (it'll be easier on the budget!). Over the

years I feel I've gone in circles a lot...but hang in there....we're all just

doing the best we can.

I'd be inclined to head to MP@LWT to look @ parasites & genetics, especially

MTHFR because that may be the root of your immune/detox problems...

You're in my prayers,

Blessings,

Rita

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Marie,

Here's a link to the LIA website...from there on the right hand of the screen is

a " Support " click to join the Yahoo group. It's been several years since we've

posted much about the LED detox, but back in 2008 & 2009 when several of us were

doing it & comparing notes there is some invaluable posts. If you decide to

join, you can either do an advanced search or e-mail me (either on list or off)

& I will send you a couple of key message #'s that I have logged in my " favorite

posts " spreadsheet.

You can find Dr 's contact info from the Quantum Neurology (QN) website

(I put in Seattle Washington & did a 100 mile search):

http://quantumneurology.com/find-a-quantum-neurology%c2%ae-doctor/

Here's a link to her website from the QN dr info:

http://www.experiencehealth.info/default.html

HTH's,

Rita

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Marie,

Learn something new every day...Thanks for the link...It's now on my spreadsheet

so I can keep track of it....Great info, Love this group...I learn something new

all the time!

You can find Dr from the QN website " Find a Dr " , put in Seattle WA w/a

100 ml radius, she's a Level 3 (highest level) QN rehab that has trained with

many of the docs on the Integrative Medicine site (she worked directly

w/Klinghardt for a couple of years, trained w/Cowden, Dr Gonzolas, & Dr Buttar

from this site), she's a great highly trained doc. I recognize many of the docs

including Mercola from past years think-tanks....great group of docs!

(I just posted the actual links to her on my last post).

The RN in our area does not have a website but we know & see her locally. She is

an RN that has been around these docs & trained an entire summer with our

herbalist (he had 6 degrees including a Masters in herbs, an MD, & 2 PhD's-1 in

Nutrition & 1 in Lasers!...the training he gave her is amazing...right after

training her he left for Asia).

If you end up in this area I can connect you up w/her off-list.

Blessings,

Rita

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Thanks Rita! I appreciate the information. I can not find anyone near my

location that specializes in this type of detox working with autism and adhd

kids. I'm trying to track down where the experienced doctors etc. are that can

do this kind of therapy.

Yes on the Academy of Integrative Medicine sight...also I like the

Betterhealthguy's Facebook page...he has lots of good links.

If I end up coming out your way, I will definitely let you know

Marie

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Hi :

I saw your post and I am sorry to hear that you have not seen the improvements

you are looking for in your child. I am not an expert in these matters...but I

can say what worked for us is a combination of therapy (Neurodevelopemental

sensory integration therapy) and changes of diet, meeting up with chiropractors

that can do muscle testing,nutrition, homeopathy, treatment for biofilm,

neurolink therapy and I am still on the healing tract. Our daughter has come a

long way from where we first began. When I first began our journey , I only was

familiar with traditional medicine but boy my thinking has been changed. There

is a lot of free videos on Autism One website from their conferences...that's a

good resource. There are some good doctors on some of those videos. I know we

get into our valley of lows and despair and cry many tears of frustration and

sorrow but don't give up!

Blessings

Marie

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Cutler's 'low and slow' chelation has been the # 1 intervention for us.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/ in the files tells how to

hair test to see what toxicities may be involved. Lots of info in files and

http://onibasu.com/ for how to. We did not begin this until my daughter was

almost 17y. She is not recovered but so much better. Please consider this!!!

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