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Hi , My son is 15 yrs old and we chelated him for 8 yrs....did every type....oral, transdermal, suppository and IV. I can say that IV produced the best benefits. We did over 100 IV's of DMPS, EDTA, NAC, VIT C, Glutathione and NAC all combined in one 15 minute push. Prior to IV chelation and post every other type of chelation my son wore sound reduction headphones 24/7. At about the 20th IV he took off the headphones and never needed them again. He also became

much more aware of what was going on around him. It did not recover him from autism but definelty helped. We had no negative side effects. After the first few IV's my son would beg to go for another. Our DAN doc felt the glutahione made him feel better so we wound up increasing the glutathione doseage from 1000 mgs to 2500 mgs. My son said the IV's made him feel better. To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 3:44 PM Subject: IV Chelation - For Cadmium removal

Hello AllMy son of 5 yrs old recently had his blood test done and the lab results revealed that he has some high levels of Cadmium in his body. The doctor is recommending to do IV chelation by using calcium EDTA. My wife is not comfortable doing IV chelation since she has not heard positive reviews about it from 2 other moms. So just wanted to know has anyone done IV chelation in general and how was their experience? If anyone has done calcium EDTA or know of other mechanisms for cadmium removal it would be more than appreciated.RegardsAalok

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according to one book I have "fighting radiation & chenmical pollutants with food,herbs, & vitamins" by norman shealy

"cadmium and zinc are structurally similar. thru the principle of selective uptake,optimum amounts of zinc prevent the absorbton of cadmium. both cadmium and lead are absorbed more readily when there is a zinc defieciency. when regular intake of zinc is high the zinc is stored and cadmium expeled."

other things the book list good for detoxing cadmium is cabbage family veggies,calcium,copper,fiber,iron,manganese,pectin,selenium,vitamin C and D

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To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 3:44 PMSubject: IV Chelation - For Cadmium removal

Hello AllMy son of 5 yrs old recently had his blood test done and the lab results revealed that he has some high levels of Cadmium in his body. The doctor is recommending to do IV chelation by using calcium EDTA. My wife is not comfortable doing IV chelation since she has not heard positive reviews about it from 2 other moms. So just wanted to know has anyone done IV chelation in general and how was their experience? If anyone has done calcium EDTA or know of other mechanisms for cadmium removal it would be more than appreciated.RegardsAalok

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From my knowledge, Cd toxicity is irreversible so I would not try chelation. Instead would supplement Zinc. Cd binds to metalloproteases (which chelation will never remove in life). Let body remove it using Zinc supplementation (replacing Cd by Zn).

Chelation has been abused a lot. Chelation would remove other metals making him deficient.Noel

 

Hello AllMy son of 5 yrs old recently had his blood test done and the lab results revealed that he has some high levels of Cadmium in his body. The doctor is recommending to do IV chelation by using calcium EDTA. My wife is not comfortable doing IV chelation since she has not heard positive reviews about it from 2 other moms. So just wanted to know has anyone done IV chelation in general and how was their experience? If anyone has done calcium EDTA or know of other mechanisms for cadmium removal it would be more than appreciated.

RegardsAalok

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I'm not sure why you would think that anyone chelating doesn't know you have to supplement minerals? We're not walking around willy-nilly with an IV bag and EDTA, shoving it in our kids' veins whenever the wind changes. There are doctor's involved.

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I am going to be blunt here.Why your response needs to be sarcastic all the time as if the comment made by a stupid person? I NEVER said what you wrote so why would you make this claim?Back to chelation, I think there are some smarter folks out there than DAN! doctors or regular practitioners (not necessarily me, of course). Everyone with a child on spectrum is desperate to get something that works for the child and that includes me too. But only difference between many parents and me is, I read up and use my knowledge before I make any decision.

The goal of chelation users is to get rid of heavy metals in the body. The one who has studies biochemistry and physical chemistry would know, only lead is the one heavy metal that can be easily pulled out of the body, other heavy metals are bound so tightly that its there is no evidence that those are pulled out using Ca-edetate.

The disadvantage will be, it will be pull out ions like Na, K, Ca, Zn so to my little brain (that has earned PhD in genetics from a prestigious institute by working on a genetic disorder) doesn't understand why any doctor would inject someone a chemical with a false promise and then supplement with 'lost' ions. I have read many DAN! books including Bock's but none convinced me for chelation. So you know what, I don't care if you are walking around willy-nilly with an IV bag and EDTA, shoving it in your kids' veins whenever the wind changes but the OP asked for a question and I answered to the best of my knowledge. If you don't believe in biochemistry and other proved literature, your choice. I am not going to spend a second to tell you that it is indeed true.

In case you did not notice, I was very active on this list in my early days of joining but after your repeated sarcastic remarks in various posts, lately I am in read-only mode. I am not interested in taking this to argument level so feel free to unsubscribe me from the list. I really have nothing to lose. I just don't want any kid to be used as a guinea pig just because their parents don't have access to the information that I have or are not expert in the field of interest or are so desperate that can't distinguish between real therapy and snake oil.

Noel

I'm not sure why you would think that anyone chelating doesn't know you have to supplement minerals? We're not walking around willy-nilly with an IV bag and EDTA, shoving it in our kids' veins whenever the wind changes. There are doctor's involved.

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Chelation has been abused a lot. Chelation would remove other metals making him deficient.Noel

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Noel, I appreciate your detail very much. All of this is very complicated for me. We try so many therapies! I have two children on the spectrum, and two not so I can't spend all my time reading, although I do spend all my "spare" time reading. It often takes me a long time to try something new for my kids bc of the volumes of research involved. I want to reiterate how much I appreciate you and other parents taking the time. I, myself am so far behind on responses to kind parents who have emailed me!Thank you all so much for your continued support and generous sharing of knowledge. Jean

I am going to be blunt here.Why your response needs to be sarcastic all the time as if the comment made by a stupid person? I NEVER said what you wrote so why would you make this claim?Back to chelation, I think there are some smarter folks out there than DAN! doctors or regular practitioners (not necessarily me, of course). Everyone with a child on spectrum is desperate to get something that works for the child and that includes me too. But only difference between many parents and me is, I read up and use my knowledge before I make any decision.

The goal of chelation users is to get rid of heavy metals in the body. The one who has studies biochemistry and physical chemistry would know, only lead is the one heavy metal that can be easily pulled out of the body, other heavy metals are bound so tightly that its there is no evidence that those are pulled out using Ca-edetate.

The disadvantage will be, it will be pull out ions like Na, K, Ca, Zn so to my little brain (that has earned PhD in genetics from a prestigious institute by working on a genetic disorder) doesn't understand why any doctor would inject someone a chemical with a false promise and then supplement with 'lost' ions. I have read many DAN! books including Bock's but none convinced me for chelation. So you know what, I don't care if you are walking around willy-nilly with an IV bag and EDTA, shoving it in your kids' veins whenever the wind changes but the OP asked for a question and I answered to the best of my knowledge. If you don't believe in biochemistry and other proved literature, your choice. I am not going to spend a second to tell you that it is indeed true.

In case you did not notice, I was very active on this list in my early days of joining but after your repeated sarcastic remarks in various posts, lately I am in read-only mode. I am not interested in taking this to argument level so feel free to unsubscribe me from the list. I really have nothing to lose. I just don't want any kid to be used as a guinea pig just because their parents don't have access to the information that I have or are not expert in the field of interest or are so desperate that can't distinguish between real therapy and snake oil.

Noel

I'm not sure why you would think that anyone chelating doesn't know you have to supplement minerals? We're not walking around willy-nilly with an IV bag and EDTA, shoving it in our kids' veins whenever the wind changes. There are doctor's involved.

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I've gotten plenty of Cd show up on urine metal dumps after IV chelation.....-Sunil

From my knowledge, Cd toxicity is irreversible so I would not try chelation. Instead would supplement Zinc. Cd binds to metalloproteases (which chelation will never remove in life). Let body remove it using Zinc supplementation (replacing Cd by Zn).

Chelation has been abused a lot. Chelation would remove other metals making him deficient.Noel

 

Hello AllMy son of 5 yrs old recently had his blood test done and the lab results revealed that he has some high levels of Cadmium in his body. The doctor is recommending to do IV chelation by using calcium EDTA. My wife is not comfortable doing IV chelation since she has not heard positive reviews about it from 2 other moms. So just wanted to know has anyone done IV chelation in general and how was their experience? If anyone has done calcium EDTA or know of other mechanisms for cadmium removal it would be more than appreciated.

RegardsAalok

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Dr. Hall Cutler talks about how to treat all kinds of heavy metal toxicities in his book Hair Test Interpretation Finding Hidden Toxicities. I would copy the part that talks about Cadmium but unfortunately I loaned the book to a co-worker. I implore you to do more research on IV chelation before attempting this with a child. Frequent low-dose oral chelation is easy, safe, and inexpensive. 

Dr. Cutler actually says it's safer to do nothing at all than use IV EDTA. 

" This should never be done, under any circumstances, no matter what.

It is not particularly wise to continue to see a doctor who has been doing this for a while and hasn't figured out he's hurting the patients too much.

IV EDTA is appropriate in specific situations - such as adults with vascular disease. Your son isn't in one of those situations and should never receive it as it may cause problems. The vitamin C that is in these IVs actually is quite good for him - it is the EDTA that is the problem... Don't do it. No matter what anyone says. It doesn't matter if it is free

or they pay you. Don't. just don't. " -Dr. Hall Cutler

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I quoted exactly why I said what I said. I'll quote it again:Chelation has been abused a lot. Chelation would remove other metals making him deficient.NoelChelation does remove other metals. Which is exactly why you're told to supplement - so that doesn't happen. You're saying this as if it's going to happen because his doctor doesn't know to supplement. If you really believe that's not how what you said sounds, let me know. Because that's how it sounds to me.You're on a biomed list. That's never been a secret. And you've consistently come on this list and knocked just about everything. Not only do you tell us that everything we're doing is wrong, but you tell us now you're saying that the rest of us don't read up on anything. Here, let me quote that for you:"But only difference between many parents and me is, I read up and use my knowledge before I make any decision."Do you honestly NOT see how that's offensive?And as for you response:The disadvantage will be, it will be pull out ions like Na, K, Ca, Zn so to my little brain (that has earned PhD in genetics from a prestigious institute by working on a genetic disorder) doesn't understand why any doctor would inject someone a chemical with a false promise and then supplement with 'lost' ions. I have read many DAN! books including Bock's but none convinced me for chelation. I have no qualms with your opinion on chelation. I never have. If there's one thing I've always been, it's open to allowing differences of opinion on this list. In case YOU didn't notice, I didn't argue your opinion. I got snarky because YOU do exactly what you're accusing me of. Pot, meet Kettle. If you don't want a snarky response, maybe try pretending that not everyone without a PhD is stupid. You're still arguing over chelation and I never was. I was commenting on your attitude towards us.And yes, you were very active. I never stopped you from being active. And I hardly responded to you that often. I haven't even been very active on the list in about a year so you going no mail had little to do with me.I don't remove people from the list unless I'm kicking them off. You don't want to be here, unsub yourself. I have no reason to kick you off. But you know, whether you like it or not, you honestly don't know how much of anything is snake oil anymore than the next person. There are plenty of people that have recovered their kids with IV chelation. It's a choice people make and make successfully. I'm sure those parents will be glad to know you're not convinced. It's also a choice people make with little to no results. Coming here, onto a biomed list and condemning everyone for things that have worked for others is going to garner some annoyance. You're going to have to accept that. If you don't like it, you can either stop saying things in ways that are incredibly offensive - to which I won't get snarky, or not. Then you can decide to stay or unsub. The choice is yours, not mine.I'm pretty good about apologizing for being needlessly snarky. The archives are filled with apologies from me. You won't get one on this.

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I am going to be blunt here.Why your response needs to be sarcastic all the time as if the comment made by a stupid person? I NEVER said what you wrote so why would you make this claim?Back to chelation, I think there are some smarter folks out there than DAN! doctors or regular practitioners (not necessarily me, of course). Everyone with a child on spectrum is desperate to get something that works for the child and that includes me too.

The goal of chelation users is to get rid of heavy metals in the body. The one who has studies biochemistry and physical chemistry would know, only lead is the one heavy metal that can be easily pulled out of the body, other heavy metals are bound so tightly that its there is no evidence that those are pulled out using Ca-edetate.

The disadvantage will be, it will be pull out ions like Na, K, Ca, Zn so to my little brain (that has earned PhD in genetics from a prestigious institute by working on a genetic disorder) doesn't understand why any doctor would inject someone a chemical with a false promise and then supplement with 'lost' ions. I have read many DAN! books including Bock's but none convinced me for chelation. So you know what, I don't care if you are walking around willy-nilly with an IV bag and EDTA, shoving it in your kids' veins whenever the wind changes but the OP asked for a question and I answered to the best of my knowledge. If you don't believe in biochemistry and other proved literature, your choice. I am not going to spend a second to tell you that it is indeed true.

In case you did not notice, I was very active on this list in my early days of joining but after your repeated sarcastic remarks in various posts, lately I am in read-only mode. I am not interested in taking this to argument level so feel free to unsubscribe me from the list. I really have nothing to lose. I just don't want any kid to be used as a guinea pig just because their parents don't have access to the information that I have or are not expert in the field of interest or are so desperate that can't distinguish between real therapy and snake oil.

Noel

I'm not sure why you would think that anyone chelating doesn't know you have to supplement minerals? We're not walking around willy-nilly with an IV bag and EDTA, shoving it in our kids' veins whenever the wind changes. There are doctor's involved.

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Whatever !!If you really think it works, why not submit the data to FDA and CDC? Let them add one more condition for chelating agent used. They will be more than happy to add this indication and chelating agent manufacturers will be more than happy.

If you don't trust FDA/CDC, thats whole another level of 'discussion'.

I quoted exactly why I said what I said. I'll quote it again:

Chelation has been abused a lot. Chelation would remove other metals making him deficient.

Noel

Chelation does remove other metals. Which is exactly why you're told to supplement - so that doesn't happen. You're saying this as if it's going to happen because his doctor doesn't know to supplement. If you really believe that's not how what you said sounds, let me know. Because that's how it sounds to me.

You're on a biomed list. That's never been a secret. And you've consistently come on this list and knocked just about everything. Not only do you tell us that everything we're doing is wrong, but you tell us now you're saying that the rest of us don't read up on anything. Here, let me quote that for you:

" But only difference between many parents and me is, I read up and use my knowledge before I make any decision. "

Do you honestly NOT see how that's offensive?

And as for you response:

The disadvantage will be, it will be pull out ions like Na, K, Ca, Zn so to my little brain (that has earned PhD in genetics from a prestigious institute by working on a genetic disorder) doesn't understand why any doctor would inject someone a chemical with a false promise and then supplement with 'lost' ions. I have read many DAN! books including Bock's but none convinced me for chelation. 

I have no qualms with your opinion on chelation. I never have. If there's one thing I've always been, it's open to allowing differences of opinion on this list. In case YOU didn't notice, I didn't argue your opinion. I got snarky because YOU do exactly what you're accusing me of. Pot, meet Kettle. If you don't want a snarky response, maybe try pretending that not everyone without a PhD is stupid. You're still arguing over chelation and I never was. I was commenting on your attitude towards us.

And yes, you were very active. I never stopped you from being active. And I hardly responded to you that often. I haven't even been very active on the list in about a year so you going no mail had little to do with me.

I don't remove people from the list unless I'm kicking them off. You don't want to be here, unsub yourself. I have no reason to kick you off. But you know, whether you like it or not, you honestly don't know how much of anything is snake oil anymore than the next person. There are plenty of people that have recovered their kids with IV chelation. It's a choice people make and make successfully. I'm sure those parents will be glad to know you're not convinced. It's also a choice people make with little to no results. 

Coming here, onto a biomed list and condemning everyone for things that have worked for others is going to garner some annoyance. You're going to have to accept that. If you don't like it, you can either stop saying things in ways that are incredibly offensive - to which I won't get snarky, or not. Then you can decide to stay or unsub. The choice is yours, not mine.

I'm pretty good about apologizing for being needlessly snarky. The archives are filled with apologies from me. You won't get one on this.

 

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I am going to be blunt here.Why your response needs to be sarcastic all the time as if the comment made by a stupid person? I NEVER said what you wrote so why would you make this claim?

Back to chelation, I think there are some smarter folks out there than DAN! doctors or regular practitioners (not necessarily me, of course). Everyone with a child on spectrum is desperate to get something that works for the child and that includes me too. 

The goal of chelation users is to get rid of heavy metals in the body. The one who has studies biochemistry and physical chemistry would know, only lead is the one heavy metal that can be easily pulled out of the body, other heavy metals are bound so tightly that its there is no evidence that those are pulled out using Ca-edetate.

The disadvantage will be, it will be pull out ions like Na, K, Ca, Zn so to my little brain (that has earned PhD in genetics from a prestigious institute by working on a genetic disorder) doesn't understand why any doctor would inject someone a chemical with a false promise and then supplement with 'lost' ions. I have read many DAN! books including Bock's but none convinced me for chelation. So you know what, I don't care if you are walking around willy-nilly with an IV bag and EDTA, shoving it in your kids' veins whenever the wind changes but the OP asked for a question and I answered to the best of my knowledge. If you don't believe in biochemistry and other proved literature, your choice. I am not going to spend a second to tell you that it is indeed true.

In case you did not notice, I was very active on this list in my early days of joining but after your repeated sarcastic remarks in various posts, lately I am in read-only mode. I am not interested in taking this to argument level so feel free to unsubscribe me from the list. I really have nothing to lose. I just don't want any kid to be used as a guinea pig just because their parents don't have access to the information that I have or are not expert in the field of interest or are so desperate that can't distinguish between real therapy and snake oil.

Noel

I'm not sure why you would think that anyone chelating doesn't know you have to supplement minerals? We're not walking around willy-nilly with an IV bag and EDTA, shoving it in our kids' veins whenever the wind changes. There are doctor's involved.

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You're still not reading the words I wrote. You've missed the point entirely.

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Whatever !!If you really think it works, why not submit the data to FDA and CDC? Let them add one more condition for chelating agent used. They will be more than happy to add this indication and chelating agent manufacturers will be more than happy.

If you don't trust FDA/CDC, thats whole another level of 'discussion'.

I quoted exactly why I said what I said. I'll quote it again:

Chelation has been abused a lot. Chelation would remove other metals making him deficient.

Noel

Chelation does remove other metals. Which is exactly why you're told to supplement - so that doesn't happen. You're saying this as if it's going to happen because his doctor doesn't know to supplement. If you really believe that's not how what you said sounds, let me know. Because that's how it sounds to me.

You're on a biomed list. That's never been a secret. And you've consistently come on this list and knocked just about everything. Not only do you tell us that everything we're doing is wrong, but you tell us now you're saying that the rest of us don't read up on anything. Here, let me quote that for you:

"But only difference between many parents and me is, I read up and use my knowledge before I make any decision."

Do you honestly NOT see how that's offensive?

And as for you response:

The disadvantage will be, it will be pull out ions like Na, K, Ca, Zn so to my little brain (that has earned PhD in genetics from a prestigious institute by working on a genetic disorder) doesn't understand why any doctor would inject someone a chemical with a false promise and then supplement with 'lost' ions. I have read many DAN! books including Bock's but none convinced me for chelation.

I have no qualms with your opinion on chelation. I never have. If there's one thing I've always been, it's open to allowing differences of opinion on this list. In case YOU didn't notice, I didn't argue your opinion. I got snarky because YOU do exactly what you're accusing me of. Pot, meet Kettle. If you don't want a snarky response, maybe try pretending that not everyone without a PhD is stupid. You're still arguing over chelation and I never was. I was commenting on your attitude towards us.

And yes, you were very active. I never stopped you from being active. And I hardly responded to you that often. I haven't even been very active on the list in about a year so you going no mail had little to do with me.

I don't remove people from the list unless I'm kicking them off. You don't want to be here, unsub yourself. I have no reason to kick you off. But you know, whether you like it or not, you honestly don't know how much of anything is snake oil anymore than the next person. There are plenty of people that have recovered their kids with IV chelation. It's a choice people make and make successfully. I'm sure those parents will be glad to know you're not convinced. It's also a choice people make with little to no results.

Coming here, onto a biomed list and condemning everyone for things that have worked for others is going to garner some annoyance. You're going to have to accept that. If you don't like it, you can either stop saying things in ways that are incredibly offensive - to which I won't get snarky, or not. Then you can decide to stay or unsub. The choice is yours, not mine.

I'm pretty good about apologizing for being needlessly snarky. The archives are filled with apologies from me. You won't get one on this.

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I am going to be blunt here.Why your response needs to be sarcastic all the time as if the comment made by a stupid person? I NEVER said what you wrote so why would you make this claim?

Back to chelation, I think there are some smarter folks out there than DAN! doctors or regular practitioners (not necessarily me, of course). Everyone with a child on spectrum is desperate to get something that works for the child and that includes me too.

The goal of chelation users is to get rid of heavy metals in the body. The one who has studies biochemistry and physical chemistry would know, only lead is the one heavy metal that can be easily pulled out of the body, other heavy metals are bound so tightly that its there is no evidence that those are pulled out using Ca-edetate.

The disadvantage will be, it will be pull out ions like Na, K, Ca, Zn so to my little brain (that has earned PhD in genetics from a prestigious institute by working on a genetic disorder) doesn't understand why any doctor would inject someone a chemical with a false promise and then supplement with 'lost' ions. I have read many DAN! books including Bock's but none convinced me for chelation. So you know what, I don't care if you are walking around willy-nilly with an IV bag and EDTA, shoving it in your kids' veins whenever the wind changes but the OP asked for a question and I answered to the best of my knowledge. If you don't believe in biochemistry and other proved literature, your choice. I am not going to spend a second to tell you that it is indeed true.

In case you did not notice, I was very active on this list in my early days of joining but after your repeated sarcastic remarks in various posts, lately I am in read-only mode. I am not interested in taking this to argument level so feel free to unsubscribe me from the list. I really have nothing to lose. I just don't want any kid to be used as a guinea pig just because their parents don't have access to the information that I have or are not expert in the field of interest or are so desperate that can't distinguish between real therapy and snake oil.

Noel

I'm not sure why you would think that anyone chelating doesn't know you have to supplement minerals? We're not walking around willy-nilly with an IV bag and EDTA, shoving it in our kids' veins whenever the wind changes. There are doctor's involved.

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We are doing DMSA suppositories for our daughter and do see metals coming out in

urine test. We do give her multivitamin/mineral supplement but do we need to add

in extra mineral supplement?

Thanks

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