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I know there's a deep burning desire to respond to this in a lot of people. Please don't. It doesn't have anything to do with biomed so it doesn't belong here. I'm deleting the OP from the website but I can't pull it out of mailboxes. Just know that it's not a discussion to be had on this list.

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Not really the place for this, but here's another side........

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/28/2016-obama-america-fact-check_n_1835710.html

--- In mb12valtrex , cristina olson <mirandaolson@

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> HOCKING - CBS gives an honest, but disturbed, assessment .

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> CBS Scot sen on "2016: The Movie"

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> The Right Politics

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> This past week, ╲2016: The Movie╡ about President Barack Obama opened in the Chicago area, and I chose to get more of an education about Obama by seeing the movie. After the inundation of canned hype for the movie on conservative talk shows across the Chicago radio dial that sounded more like commercials than honest endorsements of the movie, I was skeptical of what I was going to see.

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> While some talk show hosts sounded like they were genuinely impressed with the documentary and honestly endorsing the film, there were those who were obviously reading a commercial script which was not coming across as sincere to the regular listener â•" at least not to this often-skeptical listener. Perhaps, in future promotions of the film, it would be wise to have pre-recorded commercials done by the professional commercial-makers rather than having the likes of Mark Levin and Hannity doing script after script to promote the movie. After all, the listeners arenâ•˙t stupid and resent any attempt at being conned. After many reads by the talk show hosts, the readings of the commercial script were no more enthusiastic than another Life-Lock commercial read â•" another commercial that ought to be professionally done.

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> Yet, Iâ•˙m glad I saw the hyped-film because it was more informative than I had thought it would be and included less propaganda than I had predicted. If anything, it was nearly too informative as there was an enormous amount of information condensed into the nearly one-hour-and-a-half documentary. Fact after fact is put forth which shows that President Obama definitely has many skeletons in the closet that have not been released prior to the nationâ•˙s trust in him with the Oval Office.

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> To watch this movie and realize â•" or simply be reminded of â•" all that is unknown about President Obama is of concern. Much of the information has been ignored by the American media totally. When appropriately reminded as to what is still unknown about Obama to date, one has to ask: How can any logical-thinking person give a damn about Romneyâ•˙s taxes while not asking any questions regarding our current Presidentâ•˙s past? The man influences the entire globe, but liberal Americans want to know how much Mitt Romney paid in taxes in the past rather than learn about the man who they have entrusted with the country. Unbelievable.

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> The movie undeniably links Obama to persons of suspicious-interest due to their past actions and statements, such as former radical activist and Chicago educator Bill Ayers. While the media and blinded-liberals cast such facts aside, the movie does not. No, this portion of the movie is not propaganda â•" it is the display of factual information about relationships between people that cannot be denied. Yet, the ╲left╡ does deny the facts that are right in front of them.

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> Quite disturbing is the talk of the United States economy in the film. The current national debt which has increased two-fold during Obamaâ•˙s presidency and the horrendous economy is suggested to be part of the plan to strip the nation of democracy â•" reasonable cause to make citizens totally dependent on the government. The ╲left╡ is aghast at this suggestion of the current economy. They actually believe that Obama is unintelligent enough to let this economy just happen. Ironically, itâ•˙s many of the people on the ╲right╡ who know Obamaâ•˙s not stupid, and much of what has happened to the United States in the past four years is part of Obamaâ•˙s plan.

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> How could one so-highly educated and intelligent as Obama not know what he was doing when he incurred such debt? I left the movie thinking more strongly than I had in the past that the current debt and this economy was part of Obamaâ•˙s plan all along. Increasingly making Americans dependent on the government is the plan. Whatâ•˙s more, he knew his blind followers would believe it was not the plan and, of course, was all Bushâ•˙s fault.

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> He must be laughing at his blind followers all the way to the ╲new America╡ theyâ•˙re allowing him to create. My belief is that Obama continues to prey on his die-hard followersâ•˙ stupidity to accomplish his personal goals for America.

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> The most disturbing part of the film to me was the interview with President Obamaâ•˙s half-brother Obama from Nairobi, Kenya. How can Obama claim to want to help people when he has done absolutely nothing for his own family? It makes me wonder if he really cares about anybody if he canâ•˙t find it in his heart to help his own family.

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> As the closing credits started to role upward across the screen, the audience applauded. Me, I just walked out â•" reasonably upset.

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> Those who have already decided to vote for Obama will probably not even see the movie. Itâ•˙s sad but they probably donâ•˙t want to know the truth when it is laid out so clearly for them in this documentary. The independents who are still deciding who they are going to vote for ought to see this film. Iâ•˙m quite confident that any undecided voter who sees this film will know who to vote for after viewing this documentary. If you know youâ•˙re not going to support the ╲left╡ in this coming election, see the film out of interest if you like. But, fair warning, itâ•˙s disturbing â•" and quite frightening â•" to say the least.

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Thanks Sent from my iPhoneI know there's a deep burning desire to respond to this in a lot of people. Please don't. It doesn't have anything to do with biomed so it doesn't belong here. I'm deleting the OP from the website but I can't pull it out of mailboxes. Just know that it's not a discussion to be had on this list.

<PastedGraphic-3.tiff>* * * Cheryl * * * ~ Antiviral Therapy 101~~ Make a biomed book ~~ gryffinstail.wordpress.com ~~ @Gryffins_Tail ~~ Join the MB12Valtrex Yahoo! Group ~

Not really the place for this, but here's another side........

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/28/2016-obama-america-fact-check_n_1835710.html

--- In mb12valtrex , cristina olson <mirandaolson@

>

>

> HOCKING - CBS gives an honest, but disturbed, assessment .

>

>

> Â

>

> Â

>

> CBS Scot sen on "2016: The Movie"

>

> The Right Politics

>

> This past week, ╲2016: The Movie╡ about President Barack Obama opened in the Chicago area, and I chose to get more of an education about Obama by seeing the movie. After the inundation of canned hype for the movie on conservative talk shows across the Chicago radio dial that sounded more like commercials than honest endorsements of the movie, I was skeptical of what I was going to see.

>

> While some talk show hosts sounded like they were genuinely impressed with the documentary and honestly endorsing the film, there were those who were obviously reading a commercial script which was not coming across as sincere to the regular listener â•" at least not to this often-skeptical listener. Perhaps, in future promotions of the film, it would be wise to have pre-recorded commercials done by the professional commercial-makers rather than having the likes of Mark Levin and Hannity doing script after script to promote the movie. After all, the listeners arenâ•˙t stupid and resent any attempt at being conned. After many reads by the talk show hosts, the readings of the commercial script were no more enthusiastic than another Life-Lock commercial read â•" another commercial that ought to be professionally done.

>

> Yet, Iâ•˙m glad I saw the hyped-film because it was more informative than I had thought it would be and included less propaganda than I had predicted. If anything, it was nearly too informative as there was an enormous amount of information condensed into the nearly one-hour-and-a-half documentary. Fact after fact is put forth which shows that President Obama definitely has many skeletons in the closet that have not been released prior to the nationâ•˙s trust in him with the Oval Office.

>

> To watch this movie and realize â•" or simply be reminded of â•" all that is unknown about President Obama is of concern. Much of the information has been ignored by the American media totally. When appropriately reminded as to what is still unknown about Obama to date, one has to ask: How can any logical-thinking person give a damn about Romneyâ•˙s taxes while not asking any questions regarding our current Presidentâ•˙s past? The man influences the entire globe, but liberal Americans want to know how much Mitt Romney paid in taxes in the past rather than learn about the man who they have entrusted with the country. Unbelievable.

>

> The movie undeniably links Obama to persons of suspicious-interest due to their past actions and statements, such as former radical activist and Chicago educator Bill Ayers. While the media and blinded-liberals cast such facts aside, the movie does not. No, this portion of the movie is not propaganda â•" it is the display of factual information about relationships between people that cannot be denied. Yet, the ╲left╡ does deny the facts that are right in front of them.

>

> Quite disturbing is the talk of the United States economy in the film. The current national debt which has increased two-fold during Obamaâ•˙s presidency and the horrendous economy is suggested to be part of the plan to strip the nation of democracy â•" reasonable cause to make citizens totally dependent on the government. The ╲left╡ is aghast at this suggestion of the current economy. They actually believe that Obama is unintelligent enough to let this economy just happen. Ironically, itâ•˙s many of the people on the ╲right╡ who know Obamaâ•˙s not stupid, and much of what has happened to the United States in the past four years is part of Obamaâ•˙s plan.

>

> How could one so-highly educated and intelligent as Obama not know what he was doing when he incurred such debt? I left the movie thinking more strongly than I had in the past that the current debt and this economy was part of Obamaâ•˙s plan all along. Increasingly making Americans dependent on the government is the plan. Whatâ•˙s more, he knew his blind followers would believe it was not the plan and, of course, was all Bushâ•˙s fault.

>

> He must be laughing at his blind followers all the way to the ╲new America╡ theyâ•˙re allowing him to create. My belief is that Obama continues to prey on his die-hard followersâ•˙ stupidity to accomplish his personal goals for America.

>

> The most disturbing part of the film to me was the interview with President Obamaâ•˙s half-brother Obama from Nairobi, Kenya. How can Obama claim to want to help people when he has done absolutely nothing for his own family? It makes me wonder if he really cares about anybody if he canâ•˙t find it in his heart to help his own family.

>

> As the closing credits started to role upward across the screen, the audience applauded. Me, I just walked out â•" reasonably upset.

>

> Those who have already decided to vote for Obama will probably not even see the movie. Itâ•˙s sad but they probably donâ•˙t want to know the truth when it is laid out so clearly for them in this documentary. The independents who are still deciding who they are going to vote for ought to see this film. Iâ•˙m quite confident that any undecided voter who sees this film will know who to vote for after viewing this documentary. If you know youâ•˙re not going to support the ╲left╡ in this coming election, see the film out of interest if you like. But, fair warning, itâ•˙s disturbing â•" and quite frightening â•" to say the least.

>