Guest guest Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Hi , Can u give a few more details? What was going on in the last few days? Is he on any meds already? To me, it sounds like clostridia. Will depend on the history also. U mentioned pandas so was he taking any antibiotics recently? If so, then it could be a clostridia flare. Go up on probiotic esp lactobacillus. I love vancomycin oral as it is not absorbed and does'nt kill lactobacillus. Another possibility is phenol issue. Try epsom salt bath/foot soak or magnesium sulfate cream by kirkman. Did u start any new supps recently? Pandas is of course a possibility but before u start any systemic antibiotics, give oral vancomycin and probiotics a try. Do give us more details so we can try to figure this out w u. Good luck and this phase will pass. is > > Ok, hand foot and mouth = super regressions, especially in aggression! Major fighting, irritability, ocd, and transitioning issues. We know Pandas is an issue for him also. SO I know this is effecting him all around. Any tips? I plan on going to our DAN on Tuesday anyway to discuss some lab work, should I mention some antivirals? > > We have Antibiotics on hand at home, but now we can't get him to take ANY meds without hiding it. Esp. hard to get the liquid meds down (can't say I can blame him) Anyone use inject-able type antibiotics when needed? Do they have this for antivirals? > > TIA > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Thanks for all the info is,I had thought about him being sensitive to phenol in the past...still think a possibility. I have some Enhansa I have been too worried to try with him because of just that. However I am still thinking HFM only because he just started day care once a week, and in our area HFM is going around. Although could be a combination of both! I have been staying away from antibiotics. As much as we need them right now, they are too tough on his gut so we are looking for alternatives. Sent my husband out to look for some oil of oregano but he had no luck.He only takes probiotics, and cod liver oil, and MB12, and I have Nystatin I have been trying to get him to take, but with no such luck. And just started trying to give this after the sores started. But no new supplements until after this started. Thanks again,Subject: Re: hand foot mouthTo: mb12valtrex Date: Sunday, July 15, 2012, 9:47 PM Hi , Can u give a few more details? What was going on in the last few days? Is he on any meds already? To me, it sounds like clostridia. Will depend on the history also. U mentioned pandas so was he taking any antibiotics recently? If so, then it could be a clostridia flare. Go up on probiotic esp lactobacillus. I love vancomycin oral as it is not absorbed and does'nt kill lactobacillus. Another possibility is phenol issue. Try epsom salt bath/foot soak or magnesium sulfate cream by kirkman. Did u start any new supps recently? Pandas is of course a possibility but before u start any systemic antibiotics, give oral vancomycin and probiotics a try. Do give us more details so we can try to figure this out w u. Good luck and this phase will pass. is > > Ok, hand foot and mouth = super regressions, especially in aggression! Major fighting, irritability, ocd, and transitioning issues. We know Pandas is an issue for him also. SO I know this is effecting him all around. Any tips? I plan on going to our DAN on Tuesday anyway to discuss some lab work, should I mention some antivirals? > > We have Antibiotics on hand at home, but now we can't get him to take ANY meds without hiding it. Esp. hard to get the liquid meds down (can't say I can blame him) Anyone use inject-able type antibiotics when needed? Do they have this for antivirals? > > TIA > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Hi, My son who is 4.5 year old PDD-NOS with Lyme has started Byron White AL- Complex 1 month ago. We had to gradually ease him into it. Thank god no issues so far with reactions. Has anyone used this in such a case? Also I was reading on a website about storing of such products. "Should use liquids and tinctures and wrap the bottle in foil to avoid EMF contamination. Dr. Klinghardt keeps his homeopathics in protective boxes." Where can I get a protective box? This is from his website.Storage of the Byron White Formulas:Please store our formulas on a non-metallic surface and away from sun light, heat and electrical appliances such as cell phones and computers, and electromagnetic such as fans. A little confusing to me? Hope someone has some experience with storage. Thanks for your help To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:00 PM Subject: Re: Re: hand foot mouth Thanks for all the info is,I had thought about him being sensitive to phenol in the past...still think a possibility. I have some Enhansa I have been too worried to try with him because of just that. However I am still thinking HFM only because he just started day care once a week, and in our area HFM is going around. Although could be a combination of both! I have been staying away from antibiotics. As much as we need them right now, they are too tough on his gut so we are looking for alternatives. Sent my husband out to look for some oil of oregano but he had no luck.He only takes probiotics, and cod liver oil, and MB12, and I have Nystatin I have been trying to get him to take, but with no such luck. And just started trying to give this after the sores started. But no new supplements until after this started. Thanks again,Subject: Re: hand foot mouthTo: mb12valtrex Date: Sunday, July 15, 2012, 9:47 PM Hi , Can u give a few more details? What was going on in the last few days? Is he on any meds already? To me, it sounds like clostridia. Will depend on the history also. U mentioned pandas so was he taking any antibiotics recently? If so, then it could be a clostridia flare. Go up on probiotic esp lactobacillus. I love vancomycin oral as it is not absorbed and does'nt kill lactobacillus. Another possibility is phenol issue. Try epsom salt bath/foot soak or magnesium sulfate cream by kirkman. Did u start any new supps recently? Pandas is of course a possibility but before u start any systemic antibiotics, give oral vancomycin and probiotics a try. Do give us more details so we can try to figure this out w u. Good luck and this phase will pass. is > > Ok, hand foot and mouth = super regressions, especially in aggression! Major fighting, irritability, ocd, and transitioning issues. We know Pandas is an issue for him also. SO I know this is effecting him all around. Any tips? I plan on going to our DAN on Tuesday anyway to discuss some lab work, should I mention some antivirals? > > We have Antibiotics on hand at home, but now we can't get him to take ANY meds without hiding it. Esp. hard to get the liquid meds down (can't say I can blame him) Anyone use inject-able type antibiotics when needed? Do they have this for antivirals? > > TIA > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I stored my homeopathy in my sock drawer away from all the instruments he says to avoid. To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 7:17 PMSubject: Re: Re: hand foot mouth Hi, My son who is 4.5 year old PDD-NOS with Lyme has started Byron White AL- Complex 1 month ago. We had to gradually ease him into it. Thank god no issues so far with reactions. Has anyone used this in such a case? Also I was reading on a website about storing of such products. "Should use liquids and tinctures and wrap the bottle in foil to avoid EMF contamination. Dr. Klinghardt keeps his homeopathics in protective boxes." Where can I get a protective box? This from his website. Storage of the Byron White Formulas: Please store our formulas on a non-metallic surface and away from sun light, heat and electrical appliances such as cell phones and computers, and electromagnetic such as fans. A little confusing to me? Hope someone has some experience with storage. Thanks for your help To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:00 PMSubject: Re: Re: hand foot mouth Thanks for all the info is, I had thought about him being sensitive to phenol in the past...still think a possibility. I have some Enhansa I have been too worried to try with him because of just that. However I am still thinking HFM only because he just started day care once a week, and in our area HFM is going around. Although could be a combination of both! I have been staying away from antibiotics. As much as we need them right now, they are too tough on his gut so we are looking for alternatives. Sent my husband out to look for some oil of oregano but he had no luck. He only takes probiotics, and cod liver oil, and MB12, and I have Nystatin I have been trying to get him to take, but with no such luck. And just started trying to give this after the sores started. But no new supplements until after this started. Thanks again, Subject: Re: hand foot mouthTo: mb12valtrex Date: Sunday, July 15, 2012, 9:47 PM Hi ,Can u give a few more details? What was going on in the last few days? Is he on any meds already? To me, it sounds like clostridia. Will depend on the history also. U mentioned pandas so was he taking any antibiotics recently? If so, then it could be a clostridia flare. Go up on probiotic esp lactobacillus. I love vancomycin oral as it is not absorbed and does'nt kill lactobacillus. Another possibility is phenol issue. Try epsom salt bath/foot soak or magnesium sulfate cream by kirkman. Did u start any new supps recently? Pandas is of course a possibility but before u start any systemic antibiotics, give oral vancomycin and probiotics a try. Do give us more details so we can try to figure this out w u. Good luck and this phase will pass.is>> Ok, hand foot and mouth = super regressions, especially in aggression! Major fighting, irritability, ocd, and transitioning issues. We know Pandas is an issue for him also. SO I know this is effecting him all around. Any tips? I plan on going to our DAN on Tuesday anyway to discuss some lab work, should I mention some antivirals? > > We have Antibiotics on hand at home, but now we can't get him to take ANY meds without hiding it. Esp. hard to get the liquid meds down (can't say I can blame him) Anyone use inject-able type antibiotics when needed? Do they have this for antivirals? > > TIA> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Maybe you are dealing with pans. Try something to reduce inflammation as like advil or something more natural. If he is phenol sensitive then enhansa will not be a good idea although the nutrivene longvida curcumin did initially help reduce inflammation in my son's case. Not experienced with the antivirals yet so cannot comment. Something that has really helped my kid recently is 5 methyltetrahydrofolate by Thorne brand and the brand does matter in this case. If you don't think that you are dealing with bacteria at this time then stay away from antibiotics. Custom probiotics have really helped my kid also. Good luck and hope your child feels better soon. is > > > > > > Ok, hand foot and mouth = super regressions, especially in aggression! Major fighting, irritability, ocd, and transitioning issues. We know Pandas is an issue for him also. SO I know this is effecting him all around. Any tips? I plan on going to our DAN on Tuesday anyway to discuss some lab work, should I mention some antivirals? > > > > > > We have Antibiotics on hand at home, but now we can't get him to take ANY meds without hiding it. Esp. hard to get the liquid meds down (can't say I can blame him) Anyone use inject-able type antibiotics when needed? Do they have this for antivirals? > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Hi is,I am just trying the l-5methyltetrahydrofolate from New Beginnings .Do you think thats a good brand? Thanks,Tammy F. Maybe you are dealing with pans. Try something to reduce inflammation as like advil or something more natural. If he is phenol sensitive then enhansa will not be a good idea although the nutrivene longvida curcumin did initially help reduce inflammation in my son's case. Not experienced with the antivirals yet so cannot comment. Something that has really helped my kid recently is 5 methyltetrahydrofolate by Thorne brand and the brand does matter in this case. If you don't think that you are dealing with bacteria at this time then stay away from antibiotics. Custom probiotics have really helped my kid also. Good luck and hope your child feels better soon. is > > > > > > Ok, hand foot and mouth = super regressions, especially in aggression! Major fighting, irritability, ocd, and transitioning issues. We know Pandas is an issue for him also. SO I know this is effecting him all around. Any tips? I plan on going to our DAN on Tuesday anyway to discuss some lab work, should I mention some antivirals? > > > > > > We have Antibiotics on hand at home, but now we can't get him to take ANY meds without hiding it. Esp. hard to get the liquid meds down (can't say I can blame him) Anyone use inject-able type antibiotics when needed? Do they have this for antivirals? > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I have never tried new beginnings brand but the brand was started by a mom whose son has autism. The reason I said brand matters is because I first tried the thorne brand 5mthf and it gave my son good eye contact and focus. Then I switched to prothera brand as I was getting some other supps from that brand and it just seemed easier. I did'nt see amy positives from that and forgot that I had switched brands. This time I restarted the thorne one and saq good results right away. It does'nt contain aspartic acid and my son does'nt have problem w other ingredients so far. Have u seen any benefits from the one from new beginnings? If not then I suggest u give thorne one a try. This is the only thorne product I am using as I get most of the supps from different brands. Good luck is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, hand foot and mouth = super regressions, especially in > > aggression! Major fighting, irritability, ocd, and transitioning > > issues. We know Pandas is an issue for him also. SO I know this is > > effecting him all around. Any tips? I plan on going to our DAN on > > Tuesday anyway to discuss some lab work, should I mention some > > antivirals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have Antibiotics on hand at home, but now we can't get him to > > take ANY meds without hiding it. Esp. hard to get the liquid meds down > > (can't say I can blame him) Anyone use inject-able type antibiotics > > when needed? Do they have this for antivirals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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