RE: Did I join the wrong group?

[Guest guest]

Hi Bonnie,

As far as I know, this group discusses the use of MB12 and Valtrex (anti-virus),

and many other protocols, for AUTISM.

Good luck!

Xexa

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Did I join the wrong group?

 

Hello:

 

Isn't this group discussing Vitamin B12 and Anemia and so on?  I wrote in

yesterday but heard nothing.

 

Thanks,

Bonnie

 

[Guest guest]

You're welcome, Bonnie!

As far as I know, MB12 (Methycobalamin) is a type of B12. It's the only

neurologically active form of vitamin B12.

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Did I join the wrong group?

 

 

 

 

Hello:

 

Isn't this group discussing Vitamin B12 and Anemia and so on?  I wrote in

yesterday but heard nothing.

 

Thanks,

Bonnie

 

[Guest guest]

Bonnie, I saw your question yesterday.

The thing is that we are not really discussing B12 for anemia itself.

It's a little more complex than that... It's for treating Autism.

Please check out this info:

http://treatautism.ca/biomedical-treatment/nutrients-for-development/b12-and-met\

hylation/

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Did I join the wrong group?

 

 

 

 

Hello:

 

Isn't this group discussing Vitamin B12 and Anemia and so on?  I wrote in

yesterday but heard nothing.

 

Thanks,

Bonnie

 

[Guest guest]

No, I am not saying it's strictly for autism. I don't know if it's is... maybe

it's not.

All I know (and I've been in this group for a couple of months only) is that

most of us, who actively participate, are parents of children diagnosed with

autism.

But ask the administrator, or wait for other members' replies.

I hope you can get some help and support here!

Best of luck!

Xexa

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Did I join the wrong group?

 

 

 

 

Hello:

 

Isn't this group discussing Vitamin B12 and Anemia and so on?  I wrote in

yesterday but heard nothing.

 

Thanks,

Bonnie

 

[Guest guest]

No it's not. And it's not the only neurologically active form of B12. (I'm not even sure what that

is supposed to mean.) It's a more *bioavailable* form of B12 than Cyanocobalamin B12 (which is what is more readily available to people) and a stronger methyl donor than CB12, but there are several forms of B12 that get discussed - like hydroxy B12.

B12 issues are the same no matter what your diagnosis, if any. A deficiency is a deficiency. Not everyone gets the benefit of being able to prove anemia even though those that have high B12 levels are technically anemic. If you aren't using it, you aren't using it, which means you aren't using it. Which is really all anemia means. Low B12. There's usually a metabolic reason for it, and there's nothing about it that is specific to any diagnosis - other than blood loss, of course.

Everything we do in ASD for MB12 is the same for most everybody else with b12 issues.

This is the problem that people don't understand. This is why there is no real autism. Autism is a symptom of metabolic and immune disruption, not a psychiatric disorder. The same treatments we do in ASD are the same used in CFS, ADHD, Fibro, etc. MOST people would benefit from the same treatments because the majority of the earth's population now has damage. To what extent is still being discovered. We're getting more and

more unhealthy *everywhere* - not just in children with asd.

Yes, Bonnie, there is plenty here for you if you want to stick around.

--

* * * Cheryl * *

* ~ Antiviral Therapy 101~~ Make a biomed book ~~ Gryffin's Tail Blog

~~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

Xexa Ipanema Luz December 19, 2012

6:56 PM

Bonnie, I saw your question yesterday.The thing is that we are not really discussing B12 for anemia itself. It's a little more complex than that... It's for treating Autism.Please check out this info:http://treatautism.ca/biomedical-treatment/nutrients-for-development/b12-and-methylation/Enviado

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RE: Did I join the wrong group?Okay, so this mb12 is exactly what I wrote in about (with my question)) andno one replied.  Did you see my question yesterday?I asked if this group was discussing B12 and anemia and when no one repliedI thought

I had joined the wrong group.  I guess I didn't afterall.  Maybe Ishould

write to the List-Owner.Thanks,Bonnie

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Cheryl:

I needed

that boost. As far as I know there are 3 forms of B12.

Cyanocobalamin

– used in a lot of supplements and doesn’t really work all that

well. Also very cheap and used in injectibles.

Hydroxocobalamin

– used in the hospital if you have Cyanide exposure and used in injectibles

(preferred by some doctors) and in sublinguals and helps the person to reduce

Cyanide levels if they smoke.

Methylcobalamin

- the most active B12 and used specifically for certain conditions and for

those with Methylation problems.

Are there

more forms of B12 than these three?

Thanks,

Bonnie

From: mb12valtrex

[mailto:mb12valtrex ]

On Behalf Of Cheryl

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012

12:34 AM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Did I

join the wrong group?

No it's not. And it's not the only neurologically

active form of B12. (I'm not even sure what that is supposed to mean.) It's a

more *bioavailable* form of B12 than Cyanocobalamin B12 (which is what is more

readily available to people) and a stronger methyl donor than CB12, but there

are several forms of B12 that get discussed - like hydroxy B12.

B12 issues are the same no matter what your diagnosis, if any. A deficiency is

a deficiency. Not everyone gets the benefit of being able to prove anemia even

though those that have high B12 levels are technically anemic. If you aren't

using it, you aren't using it, which means you aren't using it. Which is really

all anemia means. Low B12. There's usually a metabolic reason for it, and

there's nothing about it that is specific to any diagnosis - other than blood

loss, of course.

Everything we do in ASD for MB12 is the same for most everybody else with b12

issues.

This is the problem that people don't understand. This is why there is no real

autism. Autism is a symptom of metabolic and immune disruption, not a

psychiatric disorder. The same treatments we do in ASD are the same used in

CFS, ADHD, Fibro, etc. MOST people would benefit from the same treatments

because the majority of the earth's population now has damage. To what extent

is still being discovered. We're getting more and more unhealthy *everywhere* -

not just in children with asd.

Yes, Bonnie, there is plenty here for you if you want to stick around.

--

* * * Cheryl * * *

~ Antiviral Therapy 101~

~ Make a biomed

book ~

~ Gryffin's Tail Blog ~

~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

Xexa

Ipanema Luz

December

19, 2012 6:56 PM

Bonnie, I

saw your question yesterday.

The thing is that we are not really discussing B12 for anemia itself.

It's a little more complex than that... It's for treating Autism.

Please check out this info:

http://treatautism.ca/biomedical-treatment/nutrients-for-development/b12-and-methylation/

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Did I join the wrong group?

Hello:

Isn't this group discussing Vitamin B12 and Anemia and so on? I wrote in

yesterday but heard nothing.

Thanks,

Bonnie

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

As far as in medical treatment, yes, those are the only 3.

HB12 plays a much bigger role than just treating cyanide poisoning. I would suggest reading up on Dr. Amy Yasko. For instance, if you have sulfur issues, HB12 is better than MB12.

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~~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

Bonnie Cole December 20, 2012

5:41 PM

Thanks Cheryl:

I needed

that boost. As far as I know there are 3 forms of B12.

Cyanocobalamin

– used in a lot of supplements and doesn’t really work all that

well. Also very cheap and used in injectibles.

Hydroxocobalamin

– used in the hospital if you have Cyanide exposure and used in injectibles

(preferred by some doctors) and in sublinguals and helps the person to reduce

Cyanide levels if they smoke.

Methylcobalamin

- the most active B12 and used specifically for certain conditions and for

those with Methylation problems.

Are there

more forms of B12 than these three?

Thanks,

Bonnie

Cheryl December 19, 2012

9:33 PM

No it's not. And it's not the only neurologically active form of B12. (I'm not even sure what that

is supposed to mean.) It's a more *bioavailable* form of B12 than Cyanocobalamin B12 (which is what is more readily available to people) and a stronger methyl donor than CB12, but there are several forms of B12 that get discussed - like hydroxy B12.

B12 issues are the same no matter what your diagnosis, if any. A deficiency is a deficiency. Not everyone gets the benefit of being able to prove anemia even though those that have high B12 levels are technically anemic. If you aren't using it, you aren't using it, which means you aren't using it. Which is really all anemia means. Low B12. There's usually a metabolic reason for it, and there's nothing about it that is specific to any diagnosis - other than blood loss, of course.

Everything we do in ASD for MB12 is the same for most everybody else with b12 issues.

This is the problem that people don't understand. This is why there is no real autism. Autism is a symptom of metabolic and immune disruption, not a psychiatric disorder. The same treatments we do in ASD are the same used in CFS, ADHD, Fibro, etc. MOST people would benefit from the same treatments because the majority of the earth's population now has damage. To what extent is still being discovered. We're getting more and

more unhealthy *everywhere* - not just in children with asd.

Yes, Bonnie, there is plenty here for you if you want to stick around.

[Guest guest]

Cheryl:

That is

something I didn’t know, thanks for bringing that to my attention. So you’re

saying that Hydroxocobalamin works for sulfur issues? What the heck is that

actually???

Thanks,

Bonnie

From: mb12valtrex

[mailto:mb12valtrex ]

On Behalf Of Cheryl

Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012

6:52 AM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Did I

join the wrong group?

As far as in medical treatment, yes, those are the

only 3.

HB12 plays a much bigger role than just treating cyanide poisoning. I would

suggest reading up on Dr. Amy Yasko. For instance, if you have sulfur issues,

HB12 is better than MB12.

--

* * * Cheryl * * *

~ Antiviral Therapy 101~

~ Make a biomed

book ~

~ Gryffin's Tail Blog ~

~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

Bonnie

Cole

December

20, 2012 5:41 PM

Thanks Cheryl:

I needed that boost. As far as I know there are 3 forms of

B12.

Cyanocobalamin – used in a lot of supplements and doesn’t

really work all that well. Also very cheap and used in injectibles.

Hydroxocobalamin – used in the hospital if you have Cyanide

exposure and used in injectibles (preferred by some doctors) and in sublinguals

and helps the person to reduce Cyanide levels if they smoke.

Methylcobalamin - the most active B12 and used

specifically for certain conditions and for those with Methylation problems.

Are there more forms of B12 than these three?

Thanks,

Bonnie

Cheryl

December

19, 2012 9:33 PM

No it's

not. And it's not the only neurologically active form of B12. (I'm not even

sure what that is supposed to mean.) It's a more *bioavailable* form of B12

than Cyanocobalamin B12 (which is what is more readily available to people) and

a stronger methyl donor than CB12, but there are several forms of B12 that get

discussed - like hydroxy B12.

B12 issues are the same no matter what your diagnosis, if any. A deficiency is

a deficiency. Not everyone gets the benefit of being able to prove anemia even

though those that have high B12 levels are technically anemic. If you aren't

using it, you aren't using it, which means you aren't using it. Which is really

all anemia means. Low B12. There's usually a metabolic reason for it, and

there's nothing about it that is specific to any diagnosis - other than blood

loss, of course.

Everything we do in ASD for MB12 is the same for most everybody else with b12

issues.

This is the problem that people don't understand. This is why there is no real

autism. Autism is a symptom of metabolic and immune disruption, not a

psychiatric disorder. The same treatments we do in ASD are the same used in

CFS, ADHD, Fibro, etc. MOST people would benefit from the same treatments

because the majority of the earth's population now has damage. To what extent

is still being discovered. We're getting more and more unhealthy *everywhere* -

not just in children with asd.

Yes, Bonnie, there is plenty here for you if you want to stick around.