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Phil saw the doctor yesterday and he said a lot of the bloating is caused by

the pain meds

which tend to slow down digestion. The back pain is associated with the

liver mets.

He seems to be able to get through more and more of his routine before the

back pain becomes really bad. There is still the option of getting a morphine

drip at the hospital but Phil really does not want to do that as he thinks he

will become dependant/addicted.

Also has anyone ever had a cortisone shot for pain while undergoing

treatment?

Could that be an option?

[Guest guest]

Thanks

They have him on the Oxicodene and Ativan. I figured if Cortisone had been

an option we would have heard by now. Still you have to checkout the options.

His big thing is he doesn't want to be in the hospital and I think when he

talks about addicted he means having to have drips a lot and not being able to

work.

In the beginning back in 2003 they had to give him morphine I think by drip

and except for his surgery last April he really hasn't needed it since.

Then they did morphine drip oral morphine and then Oxicodene and after a few

months he didn't need anything.

Sooo my new game plan is that he has until Monday and if it isn't better he

is getting himself to the hospital.

PERIOD

I know I'm mean NOT!!

In a message dated 10/8/2005 3:34:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mlhilbrand@... writes:

Narice,

Cortisone is for muscle/tendon related pain and is not

usually very effective for anything else. Also, it

could have very severe side effects when combined with

the chemo, etc.

Ask the onc for a stronger dose of long-acting

Oxicodene or other long-acting oral morphine. These

should be taken on a regular schedule (ie every 4-6

hrs or so) and then use the short-term pain meds for

break through pain or 'as needed'. It actually takes a

few days to get the long-acting ones up to a blood

level where he will be comfortable. The goal is to

prevent the breakthrough pain as much as possible.

And.....for pete's sake tell him to forget about the

notion of becoming addicted!! It has been proven over

and over that addiction should not be a concern when

treating severe chronic pain because it rarely

happens. Besides, it's much more important that he be

as pain-free as possible so he can maintain his quality

of life for as long as possible.

Hugs & prayers,

--- Flipper759@... wrote:

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> Phil saw the doctor yesterday and he said a lot of

> the bloating is caused by

> the pain meds

> which tend to slow down digestion. The back pain is

> associated with the

> liver mets.

>

> He seems to be able to get through more and more of

> his routine before the

> back pain becomes really bad. There is still the

> option of getting a morphine

> drip at the hospital but Phil really does not want

> to do that as he thinks he

> will become dependant/addicted.

>

> Also has anyone ever had a cortisone shot for pain

> while undergoing

> treatment?

> Could that be an option?

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

flipper,

Pleast tell Phil that he won't become dependant of

Morphin while he is on chemotherapy. His body is

going to have a hard time mending, though, while he is

in such pain. I have a problem where I get blocked up

and my colon gets so tight that nothing gets through.

The answer has always been to take a large dose of

morphine in the emergency room. I have had this

happen 13 times in the last 6 years. Each time they

take exrays and cat scans and all that stuff - well,

they don't any more - but they never find anything.

Morphine is my friend.

Len

--- flipper759@... wrote:

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Phil saw the doctor yesterday and he said a lot of the

bloating is caused by

the pain meds

which tend to slow down digestion. The back pain is

associated with the

liver mets.

He seems to be able to get through more and more of

his routine before the

back pain becomes really bad. There is still the

option of getting a morphine

drip at the hospital but Phil really does not want to

do that as he thinks he

will become dependant/addicted.

Also has anyone ever had a cortisone shot for pain

while undergoing

treatment?

Could that be an option?

[Guest guest]

Narice, I am Praying for Phil. I am hoping that he is in less pain so

he can take less medication and the bloating stops. Love, Ingrid

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> Phil saw the doctor yesterday and he said a lot of the bloating is

caused by

> the pain meds

> which tend to slow down digestion. The back pain is associated

with the

> liver mets.

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> He seems to be able to get through more and more of his routine

before the

> back pain becomes really bad. There is still the option of getting

a morphine

> drip at the hospital but Phil really does not want to do that as

he thinks he

> will become dependant/addicted.

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> Also has anyone ever had a cortisone shot for pain while

undergoing

> treatment?

> Could that be an option?

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