Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 * Ca/P is low - fast oxidizer. Probably would do well on digestive enzymes, high vitamin D, and a high fat diet. Digestive Enzymes - HCL w/ Pepsin 650mg/capsule - how many w/ meals? Been taking 1-2. Triphala- 1,000 mg - have not started yet, recommends to take 2 2x/day Vit D - taking 400iu/day - is that enough? methylation enhancers (for arsenic)- take Jarrow " Homocysteine support " . Chelate w/ DMSA 3 days/month for arsenic and Lead Imagine mercury in the brain - add ALA after 3 months of DMSA? I do not remember how many IV treatments I did, guess it was close to 20. Have you tested thyroid? No, which test do you recommend? Saliva from Canary? Temp. before getting out of bed 97.5 range Temp. taking throughout the day consistently below 98.6 - even after starting ACE Thank you for your help Dave, JA Dave wrote: Howdy, Jim. Let's see ... You've got 8 high, none in the red, and 10 outside of the green area. No counting rules met. Things are a bit on the low side, thought.... Mercury is reasonably normal, so you are excreting. Arsenic is mildly elevated. Lead is quite elevated. Ca/P is low - fast oxidizer. Likely to show less toxicity in hair than is present in the body. Probably would do well on digestive enzymes, high vitamin D, and a high fat diet. As far as the hair test goes, everything else looks pretty much normal. There are no adrenal signs in the hair, nor are there thyroid signs. So, you want some methylation enhancers for the arsenic and <<assuming you have no present exposures, eg no amalgam fillings, no renovations on an old house ...>> you need to chelate at 3 days per month for the lead. At the beginning you can do a bit more, particularly as the DMSA will also help with the arsenic; but after a couple of months (3 or 4) then doing it more than 3 days/mo won't do a whole lot. Methylation enhancers: TMG (.5-2g early in day), folic acid (.4-1.2mg, 4x/d) & B12 (several mg/d). Too much methyl donors can cause anger, aggression and lack of motivation. Jarrow has this combination in something called " Homocysteine support " . Also, since there is a generally depressed level of minerals, make sure to take a good multi every day. Try to jam in as many nutrients as possible. Now, as for symptoms ... Have you tested thyroid? Symptom-wise it sound like you might have something going on. How long ago were those fillings taken out? How many IV's did you have? It is always possible that mercury is an issue, when the exposure was long ago and even if it's not showing up in the hair. When that happens, it's because what is left is in the brain. Still, the symptoms you have described can, I believe, be ascribed to any of these three metals. That's what I get! I'd suggest reading more in HTI on both arsenic and lead. You will need to consider the issue of whether or not to do a trial of ALA. That _may_ take some lead out of the brain. It may also be useful to confirm or deny the presence of mercury in the brain, since if you have symptoms while you chelate, it'll be due to moving the mercury. Keep us updated, huh? Dave. ------------ - Posted by: " jim ann carter " jakarma (AT) yahoo (DOT) com Thu May 15, 2008 8:52 am (PDT) My Test result is #167 and I need help interpreting the results and knowing what steps to take. I suspect adrenals need more than ACE, should I take the saliva test to see if I need HC? Have not begun Andy's protocol for chelating because I want to build up adrenals first. Had reduced Candida, but antibiotics in December brought it back w/ a vengeance - plan to quit sugar this week. http://www.livingne twork.co. za/healingnetwor k/hairtest. html <http://www.livingne twork.co. za/healingnetwor k/hairtest. html> Background Info Current Symptoms: Candida (systemic), still low temperature (200mg ACE for month), Insomnia (life-long), pain left abdomen (irritable bowel?) last 2 weeks, anxiety, brain fog, going through menopause but no longer have hot flashes Health History: mercury fillings removed, IV Chelation for Mercury 5 years ago (bad reaction), wisdom teeth removed @19, no root canals, braces @ age 49 now off but wear a retainer Supplements prior to test: Omega 3 fish oil (1600 EPA & 800mg DHA), Vit C (500mg), Vit E (200mg), Zinc (60 mg), Multi Vitamin, Q10, progesterone cream Supplements added after test: ACE (200-300mg), GABA (750mg), Pantothenic Acid (1,00mg), HCL w/ Pepsin (1,300mg 2x day), Nature's Way Primadophilus Bifidus (71mg), 5-HTP (50mg) & glutamine powder (5mg) Location: Portland, Oregon (15 years) - Playa del Carmen, Mexico (3 years) - Austin, Texas (6 months) Jim Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 In frequent-dose-chelation jim ann carter wrote: * Ca/P is low - fast oxidizer. Probably would do well on digestive enzymes, high vitamin D, and a high fat diet. Digestive Enzymes - HCL w/ Pepsin 650mg/capsule - how many w/ meals? Been taking 1-2. -----------I take 3-4. I was told that you keep adding one until it causes a burning sensation in your stomach, then you know that's too much, and you back off by one capsule. So try 3 a few times and see if you notice anything. If not, then try 4, and so forth. I was told this is very important, otherwise you're not digesting your food properly or absorbing all the supplements your taking either.-----Jackie Triphala- 1,000 mg - have not started yet, recommends to take 2 2x/day Vit D - taking 400iu/day - is that enough? -----------I take 5,000 IU/day, but that's under a doctor's supervision and testing. But I think 400 is low, so probably 1000-2000 would be ok. They are finding that many people are low in Vit D, and this may be something that you might even get your regular doctor to test.-----------Jackie methylation enhancers (for arsenic)- take Jarrow " Homocysteine support " . Chelate w/ DMSA 3 days/month for arsenic and Lead -----------My understanding is that DMSA chelates lead and mercury, not arsenic. Andy says that DMPS and ALA are best for arsenic. But if you have lead, then you need to use DMSA, for at least one round a month or so. And your lead was elevated, so you should use DMSA for sure.--------Jackie Imagine mercury in the brain - add ALA after 3 months of DMSA? ---------Not sure of the question here, but you're supposed to wait 3 months after amalgam removal or last exposure before using ALA. ALA is what will get the mercury out of your brain. You can use DMSA 4 days after amalgam removal, and it will help to lower your body burden of mercury before starting ALA.----------Jackie I do not remember how many IV treatments I did, guess it was close to 20. Have you tested thyroid? No, which test do you recommend? Saliva from Canary? Temp. before getting out of bed 97.5 range Temp. taking throughout the day consistently below 98.6 - even after starting ACE ---------Saliva tests are usually for adrenals and other hormones. Blood tests for thyroid are fine. You want to test free T3, free T4, thyroid antibodies, and they will probably do TSH as well. You want your free T3 and T4 in the upper 1/3 - 1/4 of the range to feel best. I think Dean has some good info at his website for adrenals and thyroid.---------Jackie Thank you for your help Dave, JA Dave wrote: Howdy, Jim. Let's see ... You've got 8 high, none in the red, and 10 outside of the green area. No counting rules met. Things are a bit on the low side, thought.... Mercury is reasonably normal, so you are excreting. Arsenic is mildly elevated. Lead is quite elevated. Ca/P is low - fast oxidizer. Likely to show less toxicity in hair than is present in the body. Probably would do well on digestive enzymes, high vitamin D, and a high fat diet. As far as the hair test goes, everything else looks pretty much normal. There are no adrenal signs in the hair, nor are there thyroid signs. So, you want some methylation enhancers for the arsenic and <<assuming you have no present exposures, eg no amalgam fillings, no renovations on an old house ...>> you need to chelate at 3 days per month for the lead. At the beginning you can do a bit more, particularly as the DMSA will also help with the arsenic; but after a couple of months (3 or 4) then doing it more than 3 days/mo won't do a whole lot. Methylation enhancers: TMG (.5-2g early in day), folic acid (.4-1.2mg, 4x/d) & B12 (several mg/d). Too much methyl donors can cause anger, aggression and lack of motivation. Jarrow has this combination in something called " Homocysteine support " . Also, since there is a generally depressed level of minerals, make sure to take a good multi every day. Try to jam in as many nutrients as possible. Now, as for symptoms ... Have you tested thyroid? Symptom-wise it sound like you might have something going on. How long ago were those fillings taken out? How many IV's did you have? It is always possible that mercury is an issue, when the exposure was long ago and even if it's not showing up in the hair. When that happens, it's because what is left is in the brain. Still, the symptoms you have described can, I believe, be ascribed to any of these three metals. That's what I get! I'd suggest reading more in HTI on both arsenic and lead. You will need to consider the issue of whether or not to do a trial of ALA. That _may_ take some lead out of the brain. It may also be useful to confirm or deny the presence of mercury in the brain, since if you have symptoms while you chelate, it'll be due to moving the mercury. Keep us updated, huh? Dave. ------------ - Posted by: " jim ann carter " jakarma (AT) yahoo (DOT) com Thu May 15, 2008 8:52 am (PDT) My Test result is #167 and I need help interpreting the results and knowing what steps to take. I suspect adrenals need more than ACE, should I take the saliva test to see if I need HC? Have not begun Andy's protocol for chelating because I want to build up adrenals first. Had reduced Candida, but antibiotics in December brought it back w/ a vengeance - plan to quit sugar this week. http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html <http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html> Background Info Current Symptoms: Candida (systemic), still low temperature (200mg ACE for month), Insomnia (life-long), pain left abdomen (irritable bowel?) last 2 weeks, anxiety, brain fog, going through menopause but no longer have hot flashes Health History: mercury fillings removed, IV Chelation for Mercury 5 years ago (bad reaction), wisdom teeth removed @19, no root canals, braces @ age 49 now off but wear a retainer Supplements prior to test: Omega 3 fish oil (1600 EPA & 800mg DHA), Vit C (500mg), Vit E (200mg), Zinc (60 mg), Multi Vitamin, Q10, progesterone cream Supplements added after test: ACE (200-300mg), GABA (750mg), Pantothenic Acid (1,00mg), HCL w/ Pepsin (1,300mg 2x day), Nature's Way Primadophilus Bifidus (71mg), 5-HTP (50mg) & glutamine powder (5mg) Location: Portland, Oregon (15 years) - Playa del Carmen, Mexico (3 years) - Austin, Texas (6 months) Jim Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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