Re: Adrenal question:Dean?

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> " Usually the whole glandular would contain some adrenaline,

I'm taking adrenal glandular now, and it can't contain much adrenaline

(at least not the product I have) because it doesn't give me the usual

adrenaline type side effects.

but ACE

> should

> not as it is only the cortex (and the adrenaline is not made there).

> ACE is a fantastic adjuct to adrenal.

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> Andy is not keen to use it long term.

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> It should not be used with HC at the same time. Rather use ACE and HC

> at the

> same time. "

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> " Usually the whole glandular would contain some adrenaline, but ACE

> should

> not as it is only the cortex (and the adrenaline is not made there).

> ACE is a fantastic adjuct to adrenal.

>

> Andy is not keen to use it long term.

Hi Frances,

This is about Licorice.

> It should not be used with HC at the same time. Rather use ACE and HC

> at the

> same time. "

> Dean,not sure what you meant in that last sentence. Is is o.k. to use

> ACE and HC at the same time?...and what is it that Andy is not keen on?

Yes, it is fine to use ACE and HC at the same time. I beleive this is

preferable.

It is not okay to use Licorice and HC at the same time.

Licorice should not be used long-term either. Andy suggests one week a

month.

Other sources I know say 6 weeks on and then 2 weeks off. I think this

protocol strains the adrenals though as we can't expect repair in such a

short time, and what do you do for those 2 weeks break?

DeanSA

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>> " Usually the whole glandular would contain some adrenaline,

> I'm taking adrenal glandular now, and it can't contain much adrenaline

> (at least not the product I have) because it doesn't give me the usual

> adrenaline type side effects.

>

Yes, while in theory whole glandulars have some adrenaline. I've seldom

(actually never) known of someone having this problem.

Glandulars seems to be very well tolerated, though some have had to start

slow (and even this is rare).

DeanSA

[Guest guest]

I am one of those people who had problems with whole adrenal

glandular. It may have been the brand, but it did cause problems. I

stick with adrenal cortex now. As this is what Andy told me to use.

I think many people probably do fine on whole adrenal. Depends on the

source and the problems of the individual.

>

>

> >> " Usually the whole glandular would contain some adrenaline,

> > I'm taking adrenal glandular now, and it can't contain much adrenaline

> > (at least not the product I have) because it doesn't give me the usual

> > adrenaline type side effects.

> >

>

> Yes, while in theory whole glandulars have some adrenaline. I've seldom

> (actually never) known of someone having this problem.

> Glandulars seems to be very well tolerated, though some have had to

start

> slow (and even this is rare).

> DeanSA

>

[Guest guest]

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> I am one of those people who had problems with whole adrenal

> glandular. It may have been the brand, but it did cause problems. I

> stick with adrenal cortex now. As this is what Andy told me to use.

Jada, may I ask how long you have been taking ACE? I read yesterday,

on the archives, that Andy doesn't recommend taking ACE longterm. I

believe that it was posted on this group as a reply to someone's

question. I currently take 325mg of ACE, spread throughout 2 doses. I

have ramped up to this amount over a period of 2 months. I am wondering

if I need more at this point, or if I need something stronger. But,

that's posted on another board

Summer

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> Jada, may I ask how long you have been taking ACE? I read yesterday,

> on the archives, that Andy doesn't recommend taking ACE longterm.

Dean corrected that. It wasn't ACE, it was licorice that Andy says

(in " Amalgam Illness " ) should not be taken continuously.

I

> believe that it was posted on this group as a reply to someone's

> question. I currently take 325mg of ACE, spread throughout 2 doses. I

> have ramped up to this amount over a period of 2 months. I am wondering

> if I need more at this point, or if I need something stronger. But,

> that's posted on another board

>

>

> Summer

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[Guest guest]

Andy has changed his stance on licorice.

http://onibasu.com/wiki/Licorice

I thought he said a few weeks ago here that any adrenaline in adrenal

glandulars would not make it past the digestive system.

Jay

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> > Jada, may I ask how long you have been taking ACE? I read

yesterday,

> > on the archives, that Andy doesn't recommend taking ACE longterm.

>

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> Dean corrected that. It wasn't ACE, it was licorice that Andy says

> (in " Amalgam Illness " ) should not be taken continuously.

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> I

> > believe that it was posted on this group as a reply to someone's

> > question. I currently take 325mg of ACE, spread throughout 2 doses. I

> > have ramped up to this amount over a period of 2 months. I am

wondering

> > if I need more at this point, or if I need something stronger. But,

> > that's posted on another board

> >

> >

> > Summer

> >

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In frequent-dose-chelation summergrogan wrote:

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> I am one of those people who had problems with whole adrenal

> glandular. It may have been the brand, but it did cause problems. I

> stick with adrenal cortex now. As this is what Andy told me to use.

Jada, may I ask how long you have been taking ACE?

----------Not Jada, but I have been taking some ACE for over a year, along

with HC. In the last few months, I increased the amount of ACE I was taking,

and now take a minimum of 500mg/day, and some days take more, like 750mg, and

have even taken 1000mg a few days. But most days it's 500mg.--------Jackie

I read yesterday, on the archives, that Andy doesn't recommend taking ACE

longterm. I believe that it was posted on this group as a reply to someone's

question.

----------As said, that was a mistake, or some confusion between

licorice and ACE. Andy says not to use licorice long term. I have never heard

that about ACE.----------Jackie

I currently take 325mg of ACE, spread throughout 2 doses. I

have ramped up to this amount over a period of 2 months. I am wondering

if I need more at this point, or if I need something stronger. But,

that's posted on another board

------------You can certainly try more and see how you feel.---------Jackie

Summer

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Two years. Thanks to this supplement I no longer have panic and

anxiety. I am not adverse to the bright light anymore, not sensitive

to noise etc.

Andy told me that it was fine to use as much of it as needed for as

long as needed. He especially recommended this above hydrocortisone

for my mercury toxic children. He said not to use HC on children

unless nothing else works AND you have a doctor to supervise it.

Personally, I have tried HC and have problems using it. I can't

tolerate it unless I take the adrenal cortex with it. I also can't

seem to go above a certain amount, without feeling worse.

I take 2-3 caps a day of Allergy Research 250mg ACE capsules.

My 12 year old uses 3-4 capsules a day, My 5 year old uses 1/4 cap

once a day.

For me and my 12 yr old, if we don't take, we get anxiety and panic,

anger, etc. Symptoms of adrenal fatigue. This supplement is what was

used to treat Addison's disease many years back before the

pharmaceutical companies came up with hydrocortisone tablets.

We did confirm adrenal problems before starting it. However, I have to

say that my sister and mother now use it because they had anxiety and

panic problems. Which they don't now.

There are days when one may need more ACE depending on stress and

illness factors. Just our take on it. It has probably been the most

important supplement for us.

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> In frequent-dose-chelation summergrogan wrote:

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> --- In frequent-dose-chelation , " Jada " <

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> Jada, may I ask how long you have been taking ACE?

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