Re: Results #168 - Lyme Person - V.High Nickel - Suggestions please

May 18, 2008

>

> I'd greatly appreciate your comments on my test results at :-

> http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/files/hairtest_168.pdf

>

> HTI book just arrived this morning ... I seem fine by the counting

> rules and my mercury appears low.

It is still possible to be mercury poisoned if the exposure was fairly

long ago and if the majority of the mercury is in the brain. Symptoms

and history could be used to determine probability of poisoning, and

then side effects with a trial of chelation after all amalgam have

been removed would be what would confirm toxicity.

Low mercury can be an indicator of mercury poisoning (many people who

are toxic can't get rid of it).

But my Nickel at 5.6 ug/g seems

> much higher than other charts I've seen. I've had no known exposure

> to Nickel through my work or wearing jewellry.

>

It's so high one wonders if there was a mistake.

Nickel does tend to be elevated with mercury poisoning (haven't seen

any that elevated).

Hopefully reading the nickel section of HTI will be helpful.

> Should I still suspect Mercury as the underlying cause and press ahead

> with DMSA and ALA protocol once my amalgams have been removed ?

>

Removing the amalgams sure won't hurt you and will stop the daily load

of mercury that you are getting from the amalgam vapor. A trial of

chelation after amalgams have been removed will give you your answer.

If would help to know more about history and symptoms.

> Do I also need to be directly targeting the high Nickel - if so what

> with ?

>

I believe it will come out with chelation. Check the nickel section

of HTI.

> Further information ...

>

> UK based.

>

> Had Lyme Disease for coming up to 6 years. Health was v.good up to

> that point. Non-smoker.

>

For information about lyme see www.lymebook.com

> Have prevously tried Salt/C protocol - higher sodium would be

> attributable to salt - pure sea salt which also contains minerals.

> More recently have been on the 3 Buhner core protocol herbs for the

> past few months - they kill Lyme bacteria - (Cats Claw, Japanese

> Knotweed and Andrograhis) - but am able only to get up to about 1/4

> of the recommended dose - above this makes head feels very bad, and

> hands turn very red, skin is dry, also had v.sore throat and aching

> wrist joints - suggesting to me a big toxin release from Lyme die

> off. Taking any one of herbs individually will cause hands to turn

> red, so it's not an allergy to any one herb - only know of one other

> person on this protocol that gets the red hands/feet.

>

> Typically take 4-12 gms Vit C/day.

>

> Have 12 sizeable amalgam fillings, which have been in for 30 + years,

> but will be replaced soon.

>

> Sleep is very poor. Significant exercise will cause a burning

> sensation in my head and puts me out of action for the next day or so.

>

> Comments greatly appreciated,

> thanks,

> .

>

May 18, 2008

>

> I'd greatly appreciate your comments on my test results at :-

> http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/files/hairtest_168.pdf

>

> HTI book just arrived this morning ... I seem fine by the counting

> rules and my mercury appears low. But my Nickel at 5.6 ug/g seems

> much higher than other charts I've seen. I've had no known exposure

> to Nickel through my work or wearing jewellry.

>

> Should I still suspect Mercury as the underlying cause and press ahead

> with DMSA and ALA protocol once my amalgams have been removed ?

>

> Do I also need to be directly targeting the high Nickel - if so what

> with ?

>

See page 247 of " Hair Test Interpretation "

May 19, 2008

9 high - 2 or 3 of those are on the border.

8 outside of the green + 2 more on the border

1 red.

No counting rules met, though it's not totally normal, really. There is a bit

of a bias towards the low side.

Mercury is ... not particularly low.

Nickel is through the roof, but you knew that ...

Find source of exposure and remove. I see there is no jewelry issue. I

suggest searching on onibasu.com to see if you can find others.

Ni comes out in sweat, so if you can do (regular, not IR) sauna, replacing

electrolytes and perhaps using diaphoretic tea (elder flower, yarrow &

peppermint).

Na/Mg is very high (more than twice the upper limit of normal), which means a

lot of adrenaline is being produced (I don't know how much the high salt intake

would affect this, but it really is very high). Generally, recommendations are

to avoid Tyrosine and phenylalanine. [The tyrosine/phenylalanine restriction

is mostly handled by no red meat/ no mammals. Fish and sometimes fowl seem to

be fine.]

Now, with regard to mercury.... That test is not totally normal, being biased

to the low side - and this is particularly in a case where you are taking some,

perhaps a lot of, minerals. Also, on the nickel, this is what Andy has to say:

" Elevated hair nickel in the presence of clearly normal mineral transport may

suggest nickel tox. Since Ni is so often vastly elevated early on in the

process of mineral transport derangement, much suspicion of an underlying

mercury problem is appropriate. "

This is of some concern given (1) that you have what sounds like substantial

and old exposure (old exposures tend not to show as clearly), (2) the chronic

fatigue (which I assume you have since you mention lyme) and the insomnia are

clearly consistent with mercury poisoning (the head-buring may be too, I am not

certain) and (3) if you can tolerate 4-12gm of vitamin C/day, then you are

dealing with a _lot_ of oxidative stress; that too is consistent with mercury.

Since you are removing your amalgams anyway (and I think this is a good idea

given your health issues), I would suggest you do it properly (make sure know

the IAOMT.Org protocol) and then try chelation. My guess is that you are

mercury toxic and that at least some of your symptoms that you ascribe to

lyme's are either mercury or both mercury and lyme.

Dave.

------------

Posted by: " galgater " galgater@... galgater

Sat May 17, 2008 7:18 pm (PDT)

I'd greatly appreciate your comments on my test results at :-

http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/files/hairtest_168.pdf

HTI book just arrived this morning ... I seem fine by the counting

rules and my mercury appears low. But my Nickel at 5.6 ug/g seems

much higher than other charts I've seen. I've had no known exposure

to Nickel through my work or wearing jewellry.

Should I still suspect Mercury as the underlying cause and press ahead

with DMSA and ALA protocol once my amalgams have been removed ?

Do I also need to be directly targeting the high Nickel - if so what

with ?

Further information ...

UK based.

Had Lyme Disease for coming up to 6 years. Health was v.good up to

that point. Non-smoker.

Have prevously tried Salt/C protocol - higher sodium would be

attributable to salt - pure sea salt which also contains minerals.

More recently have been on the 3 Buhner core protocol herbs for the

past few months - they kill Lyme bacteria - (Cats Claw, Japanese

Knotweed and Andrograhis) - but am able only to get up to about 1/4

of the recommended dose - above this makes head feels very bad, and

hands turn very red, skin is dry, also had v.sore throat and aching

wrist joints - suggesting to me a big toxin release from Lyme die

off. Taking any one of herbs individually will cause hands to turn

red, so it's not an allergy to any one herb - only know of one other

person on this protocol that gets the red hands/feet.

Typically take 4-12 gms Vit C/day.

Have 12 sizeable amalgam fillings, which have been in for 30 + years,

but will be replaced soon.

Sleep is very poor. Significant exercise will cause a burning

sensation in my head and puts me out of action for the next day or so.

Comments greatly appreciated,

thanks,

.

May 19, 2008

Dave and … many thanks for the excellent feedback, suggestions

and analysis.

Am going to have a good trawl around on onibasu.com for further info.

My main concern is waiting for 3 months or so before all my amalgams

are removed and I can start DMSA . In the meantime, I want to make

some progress towards feeling better. Exercise to sweat out the

nickel is not an option at the mo, and I don't have access to a

sauna - a good soak in a hot bath I can do however. What are your

views on the ion-cleanse footbath machines – do you think it would

be worthwhile trying one - or do you think they are the over-hyped ?

regards, .

<snip>

May 19, 2008

Hello

2008/5/19 galgater :

> Dave and … many thanks for the excellent feedback, suggestions

> and analysis.

>

> Am going to have a good trawl around on onibasu.com for further info.

>

> My main concern is waiting for 3 months or so before all my amalgams

> are removed and I can start DMSA . In the meantime, I want to make

> some progress towards feeling better. Exercise to sweat out the

> nickel is not an option at the mo, and I don't have access to a

> sauna - a good soak in a hot bath I can do however. What are your

> views on the ion-cleanse footbath machines – do you think it would

> be worthwhile trying one - or do you think they are the over-hyped ?

i know those footbaths are a scam. If you are talking about the ones

that change the colour of the water as the toxins come out?

>

> regards, .

--

is

May 20, 2008

>

> <snip>

>

May 20, 2008

If you're talking about the foot baths with current running between the copper

and zinc electrodes, with the effect of supposedly removing metals ... Forget

it, it's a scam.

As far as what you can do ... There are a number of things you can do in

preparation. First, I'd do an elimination diet and see if you have any foods

you are reacting to. Then, I'd try a sulfur exclusion diet, and see if you are

high sulfur or not. Finally, I'd start learning about supplement regimens.

Until you have some idea of whether or not you are mercury toxic, which you can

tell by doing a trial of chelation to see if it causes any side effects, then I

don't think you would want to mess with minerals too much, but you could

certainly do things like vitamins C (find out what your bowel tolerance is),

vitamin E, vitamin A, try out electrolytes to see if they help or not

(magnesium, calcium, salt, baking soda, potassium, sulfate).

If you spend the next 3 months doing that, you will be in good shape to do a

trial of chelation after amalgam removal.

Dave.

--------------

Posted by: " galgater " galgater@... galgater

Mon May 19, 2008 12:26 pm (PDT)