Re: trigeminal neuraligia and cavitations

[Guest guest]

HI Jada,

> Dave, it's probably the worse pain I have ever felt.

I have heard about how painful this is - trigeminal

neuralgia has been called the " suicide disease " . So

try to hang in there and have confidence that you can

get through this. This is about as bad as it can get

- try and hang in there.

> I had all amalgam removed by a very good Huggins

> dentist. I have only

> used Andy's protocol. Beginning at 12.5mg of dmsa

> for 16 months. Then

> I added 5mg of ala (after round 14, it was all I

> could tolerate). Then

> slowly I was able to tolerate the 5mg of ala for the

> entire round. In

> the fall I increased only the dmsa to 25mg, kept the

> ala at 12.5mg. I

> was not having any symptoms on rounds, but no

> progress either.

Those dosages seem kind of high, at least from my

point of view. If the trigeminal neuraligia increased

during this time, I would suspect that this might be

chelation related. From what I have heard about ALA I

think that might be particularly suspect.

> Currently on 25mg dmsa/15mg ala. (Although this

> problem began before

> the increase). I only do a three day round once a

> month. Dosing every

> 3 in the day, and 4 at night.

This seems like a relatively limited schedule of

chelation. I wonder whether more frequent chelation

at much smaller doses might be better.

All I can say is I had

> way more fillings

> than most to begin with. 14 teeth, some with

> multiple amalgams. No

> root canals every, no other dental work. So no metal

> in mouth after

> removal in 2006.

I have heard that cavitations contain highly

neurotoxic material and are often found in association

with neuralgia. There are some detailed studies on

this one the Melisa site. People with cavitations can

have trouble with chelation. Once the cavitations get

into the nerve areas you can have this kind of

trouble. If it was me I would look into this. I have

had one cavitation treated and am putting of the

others for now. This would be my best guess about

your problem.

> I also note that these attacks happen anytime. It

> can be weeks without

> a round and it still happens. So it's not happening

> on a round.

It is also possible that you are toxic or allergic

enough that this neuralgia has been set off and that

you will have to chelate most of the mercury in your

system before it subsides. I do think it might make

sense to try a lower-dose (and perhaps more frequent

schedule). I think it might also be wise to cut out

the ALA. Definitely trying different things for long

periods to see if you can calm your nerves down might

be a good idea.

I usually feel better on rounds and when I get sick it

is because of too much chelation, but often the

sickness comes long after the rounds.

>

> -- In frequent-dose-chelation , Dave

> - AM & FDC Posts

> wrote:

> >

> > Jada.

> >

> > Don't know, but ...

> >

> > You are sure that there is no amalgam left, right?

> >

> > I am asking only because the only cases of

> semi/permanent nerve

> damage I've

> > seen around chelation has been related to improper

> protocol - wrong

> dosing

> > schedule, or chelating with mercury, sometimes

> unsuspected, still in

> the mouth.

> >

> > It sounds painful -

> > Dave.

> >

> > ------------------

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

-Thank you for the insight. All very good point. I do have two

cavitations but they are on the opposite side. Hmm?? I know i need to

fix them, but money is not allowing it right now. I also have two

toxic kids, with their own set of health problems. It's on my list

though...

I am hanging in there. Was tempted to go to ER last night, but I just

kept my thumb on that pressure point half the night and braved through

it. Today, it's less intense. But still tingly, achy, touchy. Being

very careful...eating soft foods.

I emailed Andy about this, he said he will reply in a few days on the

group because he has talked with many people who have come down with

this. So hoping he knows something too.

I spend a long time on 12.5mg of dmsa. I went almost two years and had

plateaued for months before increasing. While I see no other

effects...like you said. There's no harm in taking it down just in

case. I don't do rounds as often as I should because it causes some

big female problems. Sorry, guys don't want to hear about that stuff.

So I have found doing more rounds than that...its' working. Not to

mention with the lung problems (bronchitis, asthma etc) it seems often

I am sick...so I don't chelate then either.

All I know is something was set off, between the bronchitis and

this....grrr....

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , Sherratt

wrote:

>

> HI Jada,

>

> > Dave, it's probably the worse pain I have ever felt.

>

> I have heard about how painful this is - trigeminal

> neuralgia has been called the " suicide disease " . So

> try to hang in there and have confidence that you can

> get through this. This is about as bad as it can get

> - try and hang in there.

>

> > I had all amalgam removed by a very good Huggins

> > dentist. I have only

> > used Andy's protocol. Beginning at 12.5mg of dmsa

> > for 16 months. Then

> > I added 5mg of ala (after round 14, it was all I

> > could tolerate). Then

> > slowly I was able to tolerate the 5mg of ala for the

> > entire round. In

> > the fall I increased only the dmsa to 25mg, kept the

> > ala at 12.5mg. I

> > was not having any symptoms on rounds, but no

> > progress either.

>

> Those dosages seem kind of high, at least from my

> point of view. If the trigeminal neuraligia increased

> during this time, I would suspect that this might be

> chelation related. From what I have heard about ALA I

> think that might be particularly suspect.

>

> > Currently on 25mg dmsa/15mg ala. (Although this

> > problem began before

> > the increase). I only do a three day round once a

> > month. Dosing every

> > 3 in the day, and 4 at night.

>

> This seems like a relatively limited schedule of

> chelation. I wonder whether more frequent chelation

> at much smaller doses might be better.

>

> All I can say is I had

> > way more fillings

> > than most to begin with. 14 teeth, some with

> > multiple amalgams. No

> > root canals every, no other dental work. So no metal

> > in mouth after

> > removal in 2006.

>

> I have heard that cavitations contain highly

> neurotoxic material and are often found in association

> with neuralgia. There are some detailed studies on

> this one the Melisa site. People with cavitations can

> have trouble with chelation. Once the cavitations get

> into the nerve areas you can have this kind of

> trouble. If it was me I would look into this. I have

> had one cavitation treated and am putting of the

> others for now. This would be my best guess about

> your problem.

>

> > I also note that these attacks happen anytime. It

> > can be weeks without

> > a round and it still happens. So it's not happening

> > on a round.

>

> It is also possible that you are toxic or allergic

> enough that this neuralgia has been set off and that

> you will have to chelate most of the mercury in your

> system before it subsides. I do think it might make

> sense to try a lower-dose (and perhaps more frequent

> schedule). I think it might also be wise to cut out

> the ALA. Definitely trying different things for long

> periods to see if you can calm your nerves down might

> be a good idea.

>

> I usually feel better on rounds and when I get sick it

> is because of too much chelation, but often the

> sickness comes long after the rounds.

>

> >

> >