Re: Is anyone using the Cutler protocol a Vegetarian?

[Guest guest]

See this post: She chelated on Andy's protocol as a 15 year vegan.

She made sure to get enough nutrients, protein, and the vitamins and

minerals needed for chelation. Here is her old post on Onibasu:

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/196945.html

By the way this lady is one of the founders of Autism-Mercury.

I don't know if she posts on here, or on Autism-mercury anymore. I

haven't seen her on in a while. But I think someone else on here is

vegetarian too.

I also read what you did in Hal's book. I did not read this in Andy's

book. Andy's protocol uses chemical chelators, Hal does not. Hal uses

natural detox methods. If your taking a chelator like dmsa or ala,

it's going to grab metals no matter what you eat. I think the concern

would be in making sure you got enough nutrition to support the body

healing the mercury damage, which is where proteins would be a

concern. I don't think I have ever heard not to chelate on Andy's if

your vegan.

Others....???

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> Is anyone using the Cutler protocol a Vegetarian?

>

>

[Guest guest]

One of the things I'd be concerned about on a vegetarian or vegan diet is

controlling yeast. If you are not eating meat, then you are probably eating

rice, grains, and potatoes, all of which feed yeast. Since DMSA increases

yeast, while you are chelating, you probably need to take even stronger

anti-yeast measures. I've been on SCD for 5 months now, and I am still

struggling with yeast. I have no idea how I'd manage if I didn't eat meat. But

perhaps others don't have the yeast problems that I do.

---Katharine

Jada wrote: See this post:

She chelated on Andy's protocol as a 15 year vegan.

She made sure to get enough nutrients, protein, and the vitamins and

minerals needed for chelation. Here is her old post on Onibasu:

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/196945.html

By the way this lady is one of the founders of Autism-Mercury.

I don't know if she posts on here, or on Autism-mercury anymore. I

haven't seen her on in a while. But I think someone else on here is

vegetarian too.

I also read what you did in Hal's book. I did not read this in Andy's

book. Andy's protocol uses chemical chelators, Hal does not. Hal uses

natural detox methods. If your taking a chelator like dmsa or ala,

it's going to grab metals no matter what you eat. I think the concern

would be in making sure you got enough nutrition to support the body

healing the mercury damage, which is where proteins would be a

concern. I don't think I have ever heard not to chelate on Andy's if

your vegan.

Others....???

>

> Is anyone using the Cutler protocol a Vegetarian?

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know what Andy would say but here is a direct quote from my

consultation report

....People with a lot of agitation or anger often do well on a

vegetarian diet.. This is difficult

to adhere to and also restrict `sulfur' intake. The first step is

elimination of red meat in

favor of fish and poultry and this is much less problematic in terms

of sulfur restriction....

Colette

> Is anyone using the Cutler protocol a Vegetarian?

>

> I seem to remember Hal Huggins saying vegetarians don't get better

> from mercury toxicity (or words to that effect anyway) or….is that

> just another myth?

>

> In fact…let me have a google….oh yes….here we are :

>

> Quote

>

> What about vegetarianism and the recommendation for consumption of

> animal protein?

> Huggins believes that a vegetarian diet can be healthy for

> certain already healthy persons, but strongly urges vegetarians to

> adopt consumption of sulfur-bearing animal proteins and butter

during

> their period of mercury detoxification. Consuming eggs and poultry

> will be adequate for those who object to consumption of red meat,

but

> just as for others, fish and seafood are to be avoided. He reports

> never having successfully detoxified a mercury-toxic patient who

has

> remained totally vegetarian.

>

> Unquote

>

> Googled at random from here

>

> http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:MSvFQkgX-

>

VYJ:www.environmentalhealth.ca/fall96dental.html+vegetarian+hal+huggin

> s & hl=en & ct=clnk & cd=3

>

> Sunshine

>

[Guest guest]

It's very hard. If you're high cysteine, then you are really in a bind.

Andy has said you can do it with nuts, but ...

If you have liver problems too and tend to accumulate copper (which is high in

nuts) - then you are really SOL.

Look, I was vegetarian all my life - but you know, while I chelate, I just put

up with meat. I will say though, that given the way animals are treated in

this horrifying food production system, I am very careful to consume only grass

fed organically produced free range animals from farmers that I know

personally. I won't say finding that isn't a lot of work.

Dave.

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Posted by: " sunshinep1969 " danielproudfoot2001@... sunshinep1969

Mon May 19, 2008 5:48 am (PDT)

Is anyone using the Cutler protocol a Vegetarian?

I seem to remember Hal Huggins saying vegetarians don't get better

from mercury toxicity (or words to that effect anyway) or….is that

just another myth?

In fact…let me have a google….oh yes….here we are :

Quote

What about vegetarianism and the recommendation for consumption of

animal protein?

Huggins believes that a vegetarian diet can be healthy for

certain already healthy persons, but strongly urges vegetarians to

adopt consumption of sulfur-bearing animal proteins and butter during

their period of mercury detoxification. Consuming eggs and poultry

will be adequate for those who object to consumption of red meat, but

just as for others, fish and seafood are to be avoided. He reports

never having successfully detoxified a mercury-toxic patient who has

remained totally vegetarian.

Unquote

[Guest guest]

Ok, thanks everyone, I have asked over on yahoo A-M.

I seem to be ok with sulphur foods now. Been gradually building up

the quantity of sulphur foods I eat and so far I still feeling the

best i have felt in 4 years. As long as I prepare nuts and seeds by

soaking them and then drying them as per NT they are fine too.

I'm just looking at options, as a general rule I do better avoiding

meat and just wanted to know if I will " never get better " as Huggins

suggested if I continue to minimise my meat consumption.

I too am very careful to consume only grass fed organically produced

free range animals if & when I do eat meat, although it is much easier

said than done.

Sunshine

>

> It's very hard. If you're high cysteine, then you are really in a

bind.

>

> Andy has said you can do it with nuts, but ...

>

> If you have liver problems too and tend to accumulate copper (which

is high in

> nuts) - then you are really SOL.

>

> Look, I was vegetarian all my life - but you know, while I chelate,

I just put

> up with meat. I will say though, that given the way animals are

treated in

> this horrifying food production system, I am very careful to

consume only grass

> fed organically produced free range animals from farmers that I

know

> personally. I won't say finding that isn't a lot of work.

>

> Dave.

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