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Hi -

We're both working with and are in the process of getting

testing completed. mentioned maybe putting him on some thyroid - I

guess it will depend on the results of the other tests.

Thanks so much for your input and for the examples you gave. Hopefully my

husband will be willing to get his fillings replaced (and maybe even

chelate). He did become much more interested in the topic after seeing the

video from U. Calgary showing what mercury does to brain neurons (and also

the one showing mercury " smoking " off of even old fillings).

Thanks again,

Dana B

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To: frequent-dose-chelation

Subject: Re: Hair test results

>

> Hi-

>

> We've just gotten the results of my husband's hair test and would

appreciate

> any comments. He's 64 and in reasonably good health,

>though his TSH was

> above 4 and he's cold much of the time.

Did the doctors prescribe thyroid medication for him? Armour would

likely be better than Synthroid.

He also has moderately severe hay

> fever allergies, digestive issues, moderate light sensitivity, and

has lower

> energy than I would expect for his age (has slowed down in the past

3 or 4

> years).

All of those things could be mercury related.

> He's had a mouth full of amalgams since childhood,

and there's the source.

though some have

> been replaced with composite as the old ones fail. We both take

" tons " of

> supplements (including mentylcobalamin) and have for many years.

>

His hair test doesn't meet any counting rules. This could be, in

part, due to the many years of supplements. There still could be a

significant quantity of mercury in the brain (and that doesn't show up

on hair tests).

I would see removing amalgams and chelation as an investment in his

future health. Once all amalgams are removed, the reaction he gets

with a trial of chelation will give him any evidence he needs to proceed.

With someone of this age I am reminded of my grandmother. She was in

good health until the age of 70 when she started having mobility

problems, which turned out to be Parkinson's. I cared for her for

most of age 70-90. I remember thinking that it wasn't " fair " that she

had to suffer so much. One of my uncles had all of his molars removed

at about age 40 (therefore no amalgam from then on). He was in good

health, productive and even had a decent memory, until he passed away

at about 91. Both my grandmother and uncle had hay fever, btw. My

uncle's hay fever cleared up mysteriously in mid life.

J

> Thanks so much,

>

> Dana B

>

>

>

> >>Toxic Elements (all no bar or green)

>

> Aluminum 2.4 (ref < 7.0) green

>

> Antimony 0.041 (ref < 0.066) green

>

> Arsenic 0.071 (ref < 0.080) green

>

> Beryllium < 0.01 (ref < 0.020) no bar

>

> Bismuth 0.040 (ref < 2.0) green

>

> Cadmium 0.010 (ref < 0.15) green

>

> Lead 0.08 (ref < 2.0) green

>

> Mercury 0.36 (ref < 1.1) green

>

> Platinum < 0.003 (ref < 0.005) no bar

>

> Thallium < 0.0001 (ref < 0.010) no bar

>

> Thorium < 0.001 (ref < 0.005) no bar

>

> Uranium 0.015 (ref < 0.060) green

>

> Nickel 0.08 (ref < 0.40) green

>

> Silver 0.03 (ref < 0.12) green

>

> Tin 0.24 (ref < 0.30) green

>

> Titanium 0.42 (ref < 1.0) green

>

>

>

> >>Essential and other elements

>

> Calcium 903 (200 - 750) high

yellow

>

> Magnesium 52 (25 - 75) high

green

>

> Sodium 120 (12 - 90) high

> yellow

>

> Potassium 26 (9 - 40) high

> green

>

> Copper 8.7 (10 - 28) low

> yellow

>

> Zinc 200 (130 - 200) high

> green

>

> Manganese 0.08 (0.15 - 0.65) low yellow

> (almost red)

>

> Chromium 0.34 (0.20 - 0.40) high green

>

> Vanadium 0.024 (0.018 - 0.065) low green

>

> Molybdenum 0.036 (0.025 - 0.064) low green

>

> Boron 1.2 (0.40 - 3.0)

white

>

> Iodine 5.0 (0.25 - 1.3)

high

> red

>

> Lithium 0.045 (0.007 - 0.023) high

yellow

>

> Phosphorus 189 (160 - 250) low green

>

> Selenium 1.2 (0.95 - 1.7) white

>

> Strontium 4.9 (0.30 - 3.5) high

> yellow

>

> Sulfur 47400 (44500 - 52000) low green

>

> Barium 0.74 (0.16 - 1.6)

high green

>

> Cobalt 0.003 (0.013 - 0.035) low red

>

> Iron 9.2 (5.4 - 13)

> high green

>

> Germanium 0.041 (0.045 - 0.065) low yellow

>

> Rubidium 0.031 (0.011 - 0.12) white

>

> Zirconium 0.081 (0.020 - 0.44) white

>

>

>

> >>Ratios

>

> Ca/Mg 17.4 (4 - 30)

>

> Ca/P 4.78 (0.8 - 8)

>

> Na/K 4.62 (0.5 - 10)

>

> Zn/Cu 23 (4 - 20)

>

> Zn/Cd > 999 (>800)

>

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Thanks very much for the reply Dave, i will look into adding some more

supplements as i am already take some of the mentioned ones as above. I

have been chelating DMSA for the last 3 months, and i added ALA for the

first time this week. Of course on the Anyds protocol every 3 hours for

me as that seems to fit better.

Does DMSA cover Arsenic also or only ALA ?

>

> If you want to report on symptoms or what your present exposure is,

then I'd be

> interested in know. Where did you get all this mercury, anyway?

>

I would like to believe my present exposure is no longer as i have had

10 Amalgam fillings(i pressume and suspected thats were all the mercury

has come from) removed with the last one being removed in Feb. Where

has the arsenic come from, or could that have come from the Amalgams

also ?

Do you have any idea with the levels i have show of how long it could

take to chelate, or before signs of improvement ?

I would say also that most of my symptons lie within the gut, yeast,

poor very little digestion, leaky gut, ect but also depression.

Ste H

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Posted by: " H " stehendie@... stehendie

Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:48 pm (PDT)

>Thanks very much for the reply Dave, i will look into adding some more

supplements as i am already take some of the mentioned ones as above. I

have been chelating DMSA for the last 3 months, and i added ALA for the

first time this week. Of course on the Anyds protocol every 3 hours for

me as that seems to fit better.

>Does DMSA cover Arsenic also or only ALA ?

It does, but ALA is better. I don't know the details of arsenic accumulation

in the brain and it's transport in and out, but whatever it does up there, ALA

will be the one to take it out.

> If you want to report on symptoms or what your present exposure is,

then I'd be interested in know. Where did you get all this mercury, anyway?

>I would like to believe my present exposure is no longer as i have had

10 Amalgam fillings (i pressume and suspected thats were all the mercury

has come from) removed with the last one being removed in Feb. Where

has the arsenic come from, or could that have come from the Amalgams

also?

Arsenic does not come from the amalgams, but when you are mercury poiosned, you

do have a tendency to accumulate other metals, arsenic being one. Still, there

would have to be a source. I don't know what that would be.

I really suggest you read pp240-1 of HTI, since there is some good info there.

>Do you have any idea with the levels i have show of how long it could

take to chelate, or before signs of improvement ?

>I would say also that most of my symptons lie within the gut, yeast,

poor very little digestion, leaky gut, ect but also depression.

Ok, depression is a psychiatric symptom, which means you may be on the longer

end of things. On the other hand, I was able to clear up depression by

clearing up my sulfur status. When I discovered I was " high sulfur " and went

on a sulfur restricted diet, my symptoms drastically improved. On the other

hand, those who are low sulfur commonly find that suflur foods or even

supplementation with NAC can help. Search onibasu.com for " sulfur exclusion

diet "

When I say on the longer end of things, it could be 3 years - but, you are not

nearly as ill as I was and, particularly depending on your sulfur status, you

may be able to tolerate higher levels of chelator than I have been able to

(people with high sulfur can only tolerate low levels of ALA). So, it may be

shorter, particularly if you find other means of eliminating your depression.

Oh, and PS. There is some stuff in Andy's AI on gut symptoms and what you can

do about it. You might want to poke around there.

>Ste H

Good luck -

Dave.

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> I really suggest you read pp240-1 of HTI, since there is some good

info there.

Sorry to bother you again but were can i find this pp240-1 of HTI ?

> When I say on the longer end of things, it could be 3 years - but,

you are not

> nearly as ill as I was and, particularly depending on your sulfur

status, you

> may be able to tolerate higher levels of chelator than I have been

able to

> (people with high sulfur can only tolerate low levels of ALA). So,

it may be

> shorter, particularly if you find other means of eliminating your

depression.

Also what measurements was/are you able to handle as i can handle

12.5mg at the minute with no problem, and mite try 25mg on the

weekend.

And when you say 3 years, does like mean no alcohol, and still

sticking

to sulphur/candida diet or is it likely after 1 or 2 years i can have

a few

drinks (not go over the top ofc and can eat a few more things) but

then

the remaining year i still need to chelate.

Thanks Alot

Ste H

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Posted by: " H " stehendie@... stehendie

Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:31 am (PDT)

>>I really suggest you read pp240-1 of HTI, since there is some good

info there.

>Sorry to bother you again but were can i find this pp240-1 of HTI ?

Sorry, " Hair Test Interpretation " , Andy's second book.

>Also what measurements was/are you able to handle as i can handle

12.5mg at the minute with no problem, and mite try 25mg on the

weekend.

I have been using 25mg for the whole 3 years. Even going to 30mg is hard for

me. I did try 50mg _once_, and that was just way over my head. Kind of scared

me, actually.

Did you try it? What happened?

>And when you say 3 years, does like mean no alcohol, and still

>sticking

>to sulphur/candida diet or is it likely after 1 or 2 years i can have

>a few

>drinks (not go over the top ofc and can eat a few more things) but

>then

>the remaining year i still need to chelate.

:)

The worst of it is that I can't have the occasional beer! I hate it!

Ya. I can consume a little bit of dairy now. Things like broccoli or cabbage

are basically ok, as long as I keep the level pretty low. That basically means

that when I'm cooking at home (which is most of the time), I stay away from the

foods that are bad for me, but when I go out I'll have a little bit. I'll then

just keep it in mind, in case someone asks me out to dinner in less than maybe

a week.

And ... ya, while you're chelating, you should leave off the alcohol. You need

that liver for other things!

>Thanks Alot

>Ste H

Dave.

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