Re: See what Andy says about far infrared saunas

[Guest guest]

Dear Beigetable,

Well I looked at the indices of Andy's posts regarding saunas. And

what I saw was a very heated debate of opinions..not so much in the

way of literature on benefits and adverse reactions. I can say that I

respect Andy's opinion and he has done alot of good for many people

including my son..so its fair to say without him I would not be in

the same place I am in my son's recovery. ( BTW I have a kid on the

spectrum) With that said..In regards to conventional sauna therapy, I

guess I can't understand why andy would say that conventional steam

sauna would be beneficial, it would seem a person would be trying to

sweat out toxins while breathing others in. I saw the subject of

High Tech Health mentioned in posts. They sent me some reading

material including published studies on far infrared that had nothing

to do with any particular companies promoting their products. Alot of

the references pertained to medical journals that did studies on

mercury excretion through sweat using far infrared. Anyway, the sauna

is coming..I know that Tim could not handle a conventional sauna...he

can't even cut the grass for 10 minutes. Just like anything else in

the world of detox there are many different ways to go about it and

not one thing will work for everyone. One persons cure is another

persons poison. We'll have to see what happens. I wonder if the

stuff they sent me was what Andy was trying to get them to send him???

Carie

Beigetable wrote:

((((((((((See the indices of Andy's posts regarding saunas. He warns

against far

infrared saunas, saying that they can harm mercury toxic people. He

recommends conventional saunas.

The studies I am aware of on sauna detox were done using conventional

saunas, although this research is often cited by those marketing far

infrared saunas.

In frequent-dose-chelation , " Carie "

wrote:

> Tim and I are looking forward to the delivery of a far infared sauna

> in the next week. I sure hope I made the right decision in

purchasing

> it. I really want that particular therapy to help considering the

> investment. I know I've seen them very expensive on the internet. I

> think I got a good deal though. 2 person (he's 6'4 " so I thought it

> would give him alittle more room) Hemlock wood, far infared by

> ceramic heater (carbon was alittle more money than we wanted to

spend)

> It was $969.00 no tax plus free shipping. got it from

> nationalpoolwholesalers.com in Florida. I didn't find it cheaper

> anywhere else.))))))))))))))

[Guest guest]

>

> Dear Beigetable,

>

> Well I looked at the indices of Andy's posts regarding saunas. And

> what I saw was a very heated debate of opinions..

TK-- correct for some of the information. depends on who you want to

believe ie someone like ANdy that is specializing in Hg toxicity or

someone tryiong to sell a product - in the end your decision. Andy

recommenmds regular sauna unless you can get a specific brand of the

other [because of the way it is made and distributes heat]. The way

heat is distrbuted I beleive is one of the major problems with FIR.

not so much in the

> way of literature on benefits and adverse reactions.

TK--- lots of adverse reaction by individuals posting over the years

for both as many Hg toxic individuals do not tollerate heat well

I can say that I

> respect Andy's opinion and he has done alot of good for many people

> including my son..so its fair to say without him I would not be in

> the same place I am in my son's recovery. ( BTW I have a kid on the

> spectrum) With that said..In regards to conventional sauna therapy,

I

> guess I can't understand why andy would say that conventional steam

> sauna would be beneficial

TK--- he covers it in his posts which I have copied into the files

section here.

, it would seem a person would be trying to

> sweat out toxins while breathing others in.

TK--- possibly to some degree in either application

I saw the subject of

> High Tech Health mentioned in posts. They sent me some reading

> material including published studies on far infrared that had

nothing

> to do with any particular companies promoting their products. Alot

of

> the references pertained to medical journals that did studies on

> mercury excretion through sweat using far infrared.

TK--- medical journals are usually written for a particular purpose

and are not always or even usually a good source of information.

Many companies have these written to push products.

Anyway, the sauna

> is coming..I know that Tim could not handle a conventional

sauna...he

> can't even cut the grass for 10 minutes.

TK--- a good reason not to sauna as many of us do not tollerate heat

well. make sure you can return it if possible.

Just like anything else in

> the world of detox there are many different ways to go about it and

> not one thing will work for everyone. One persons cure is another

> persons poison.

TK--- correct but here we go by what Andy has researched and use his

information to our advantage. He has looked at the sauna problem

extensively and I would trust his information much before anyone

elses when it comes to us that are HG toxic as others do not

understand the problem correctly.

We'll have to see what happens. I wonder if the

> stuff they sent me was what Andy was trying to get them to send

him???

>

> Carie

>

[Guest guest]

Funny (Not really) variations with FIR treatments)

Ok so I first tried FIR saunas about 2.00 years ago (Before I found

AI and before I had my fillings out) and I did not have really any

significant reaction one way or the other...At this time I was

mercury toxic just did not realize how bad it was...IT seems funny

though that the FIR did not bother me then

HOWEVER, I tried FIR's post amalgam removal (actually mid January

2008) based upon 's suggestion (even though I knew that

Andy said it was not recommended) and had a head wipe out experience

terrible head and face burning..so it must have done some mercury

mobilization of some sort which maybe was heightened by my having had

my amalgam fillings removed and have had what I think was a quite

heavy load of toxicity

-- >

> The type of conventional sauna recommended by Andy, and to which I

> was referring, is a dry sauna, not a steam sauna.

>

> As you may have seen, Andy's warnings are pretty strong; he talks

> about people getting horribly worse with FIR saunas.

>

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