Re: Mercury in RBC but none in urine during chelation ANDY comments

[Guest guest]

- the blood and urine tests won't tell you much of anything, but the

question of your not having any " improvements " on DMSA might.

What are you chelating for? mercury? lead? arsenic?

Have you used ALA?

Do you see any side effects when you chelate? That is, do you see any new

symptoms on round or any end-of-round ick?

Dave.

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Posted by: " jodi2ben " nessy@... jodi2ben

Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:55 am (PDT)

> Yes indeed - the range for mercury is <= 0.0039 mcg/g and my level

was 0.0087 mcg/g.

>As for the urine tests not being reliable - I really find it hard to

believe that they wouldn't pick up ANY percury whilst chelating. The

test picked up everything else.

>The blood mercury explains my frequent metallic taste and other symptoms.

>I have been chelating with the DMSA for over a year, with no

improvements. This is why I am so concerned that I am actually doing

more damage than good. Something surely isn't right if I am not

excreting the stuff on round.

[Guest guest]

--- I am chelating primarily for mercury but I suspect I have a load

of lead too. Others I don't know because I had deranged mineral

transport on the hair analysis.

Have been using DMSA from 6mgs and now up to 25mgs for 15 months. Had

several months of dumping when I had to reduce the DMSA back down to

12.5mgs for about 6 months and have been able to increase it to 25

without too much trouble just recently. That's the only " improvement "

I have had.

Side effects with chelation are typical - initially lots of headaches,

shakey adrenals, metallic tast in mouth (Yes, all amalgam 100%

removed!), tiredness, some " kidney area aching " , blurred vision and

generally feeling yukky. I don't get those side effects so often now

and they have improved a little since using molybdenum too. Then the

day or two after round I feel pretty crappy. So it is definitely

having an effect. Just no improvements from my initial state

whatsoever. AM treating thyroid, adrenals and female hormones as well

as possible and take all the supplements recommended.

Oh and generally I feel a little better on round. Not always though.

In frequent-dose-chelation , Dave - AM & FDC Posts

wrote:

>

> - the blood and urine tests won't tell you much of anything,

but the

> question of your not having any " improvements " on DMSA might.

>

> What are you chelating for? mercury? lead? arsenic?

>

> Have you used ALA?

>

> Do you see any side effects when you chelate? That is, do you see

any new

> symptoms on round or any end-of-round ick?

>

> Dave.

>

> ---------------

>

> Posted by: " jodi2ben " nessy@... jodi2ben

> Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:55 am (PDT)

>

> > Yes indeed - the range for mercury is <= 0.0039 mcg/g and my level

> was 0.0087 mcg/g.

>

> >As for the urine tests not being reliable - I really find it hard to

> believe that they wouldn't pick up ANY percury whilst chelating. The

> test picked up everything else.

>

> >The blood mercury explains my frequent metallic taste and other

symptoms.

>

> >I have been chelating with the DMSA for over a year, with no

> improvements. This is why I am so concerned that I am actually doing

> more damage than good. Something surely isn't right if I am not

> excreting the stuff on round.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

- sorry, I've been a little behind. I seem to have re-asked a question

that you already answered.

Well, from your description, it does seem that you are not getting the side

effects as often as when you started - that is a level of improvement. Also,

you feel better on round.

How do you know you have lead? I have just read recently that the path for

people who are lead poisoned (in addition to mercury) is substantially longer

than for those with no lead.

You said that molybdenum has helped - I assume you did a hair test and checked

that your copper levels were not too high? (Is it posted with Dean?)

I see you don't have any amalgam. I'll just confirm that you don't have an

amalgam tatoo? (Dark color in the gums where the amalgam got into the tissues.

Usually happens when a filling was right on the gum line.)

Dave.

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Posted by: " jodi2ben " nessy@... jodi2ben

Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:53 pm (PDT)

--- I am chelating primarily for mercury but I suspect I have a load

of lead too. Others I don't know because I had deranged mineral

transport on the hair analysis.

Have been using DMSA from 6mgs and now up to 25mgs for 15 months. Had

several months of dumping when I had to reduce the DMSA back down to

12.5mgs for about 6 months and have been able to increase it to 25

without too much trouble just recently. That's the only " improvement "

I have had.

Side effects with chelation are typical - initially lots of headaches,

shakey adrenals, metallic tast in mouth (Yes, all amalgam 100%

removed!), tiredness, some " kidney area aching " , blurred vision and

generally feeling yukky. I don't get those side effects so often now

and they have improved a little since using molybdenum too. Then the

day or two after round I feel pretty crappy. So it is definitely

having an effect. Just no improvements from my initial state

whatsoever. AM treating thyroid, adrenals and female hormones as well

as possible and take all the supplements recommended.

Oh and generally I feel a little better on round. Not always though.

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Re: Mercury in red blood cell analysis

Posted by: " jodi2ben " nessy@... jodi2ben

Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:52 pm (PDT)

--- Hi Dave

I can't touch the ALA without getting severe migraine like headaches.

I tried a really low dose of 8mgs or so (if I remember correctly - I

was cutting tablets into 8ths!)

And there is some doubt now about me trying ALA (at even smaller

doses!!!) because after a year of DMSA I still have a lot of mercury

floating around in my blood. It was said here that I shouldn't do ALA

until the blood levels are reduced still further.

[Guest guest]

> >

> > - the blood and urine tests won't tell you much of anything,

> but the

> > question of your not having any " improvements " on DMSA might.

> >

> > What are you chelating for? mercury? lead? arsenic?

> >

> > Have you used ALA?

> >

> > Do you see any side effects when you chelate? That is, do you see

> any new

> > symptoms on round or any end-of-round ick?

> >

> > Dave.

> >

> > ---------------

> >

> > Posted by: " jodi2ben " nessy@ jodi2ben

> > Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:55 am (PDT)

> >

> > > Yes indeed - the range for mercury is <= 0.0039 mcg/g and my level

> > was 0.0087 mcg/g.

> >

> > >As for the urine tests not being reliable - I really find it hard to

> > believe that they wouldn't pick up ANY percury whilst chelating. The

> > test picked up everything else.

> >

> > >The blood mercury explains my frequent metallic taste and other

> symptoms.

> >

> > >I have been chelating with the DMSA for over a year, with no

> > improvements. This is why I am so concerned that I am actually doing

> > more damage than good. Something surely isn't right if I am not

> > excreting the stuff on round.

> >

> >

> >

>