Re: Re candida overgrowth TO

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> I never really had any joint problems until after these vaccines,

and it started all of a sudden in all joints so it was rather

frightening. Sure would like to know if its some kind of an infection

or if its mercury, as the vaccines had both (wonderful stuff).

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Wow, you just described my symptoms to a " T " . I only had childhood

vaccinations, though. And the joint problems seemed to come on

gradually. One of my shoulders even discolates alot - talk about

pain! I'm really sorry - start chelating I guess (no mercury in

mouth, right?) and olive leaf extract is supposed to be really good

for viruses. Maybe somebody else will pipe in and offer more help.

Val

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Hi Pqaul

Cilantro is syrongly advised agaisnt by Andy as is chorella. Cilantro

mobilizes mercury and allows it to cross the BBB (blood brain

barrier); Chorella is to be avoided as its often polluted with

mercury (I belive this is the AI rationale)

I was juicing much cilantro and eating it raw due to this moronic

health care provider. Klinghardt (ltyme dr is seattle recommneds it

and there are many other misinformed (Mercola) who have jumped on the

bandwagon.

It was cumulative over 6 months until i just stopped iot on my own..I

ate a bunch once and my head went dead literally. it was like it was

in a vice grip being tightened for about 2 days

As it relatesd to the candida/fungus I know i passed this ball of

candida/fungus for lack of a better word and immediately after

(within hours) my head was messed up and I think this latter

occurence was what sort of quasi permanently messed up my brain

I also know I had verty debilitating herxing when i started in on

probiotics; anti fungals and aloe vera and mangosteen for gut

support. It was either mercury being released or other neurotoxins

from the probiotic kill off

I just recently had to stop ALA for a bit as it was i think causing

me too much head fog and realted problems and It was almost like a

powrful magnet pulling on my heart, quite sore..The last day i have

been off ALA and both symptoms have greatly diminshed. My

understanding is ALA is more effective for brain and organ chelation

more than dmps which is more for tissue and blood mercury (ie mops it

up aftyer ALA digs it out)

I am paraphrasing here

> > >

> > > Sorry I didn't mean to sound annoyed in my

> > response and I

> > appreciate the help. I do get tired of hearing about

> > candida

> > though. Maybe its different for men than it is for women,

> > I'm not

> > sure. But from what I understand there are no real tests

> > for candida

> > overgrowth, so you can't really know if its an issue

> > for your health,

> > although its symptom list is so long almost everyone could

> > potentially have it. Many of the symptoms are the same as

> > mercurialism however, and I wonder how many mercury

> > sufferers are

> > diagnosed with candida instead and spend years trying to

> > control

> > candida, when it will just go awsay on its own once the

> > mercury isn't

> > an issue.

> > >

> > > I imagine many people are misdiagnosed with candida

> > overgrowth and

> > put on potentially unhealthy diets and drugs. From my

> > understanding

> > candida is an opportunistic organism not a pathogen, so

> > getting rid

> > of candida is impossible without taking its opportunity to

> > grow

> > away. So it really isn't candida that's the

> > problem, it just shows

> > up as a result of another problem, whether its amalgam,

> > infection,

> > AIDS, etc. I think candida is more of a symptom that a

> > root cause,

> > but it seems that many people think of it as a root cause

> > and try

> > and 'cure' it when that really makes no sense. It

> > would be like

> > trying to cure yourself of bacteria when there are more

> > bacteria in

> > your body than there is cells.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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TO Clarify Treating Candida/Yeast/Fungus

My personal belief is that you still have to treat the yeast/fungus

gut imbalance once you are chelating. But I think you should go easy

on the yeast/fungus/etc treatments until you are chelating due to

what I believe will be mercury being released from yeast/fungal die

off. I think anyone with chronic illnesses and infections have a

severly compromised immune system that it may take many months to get

righted

I know for the first 3-4 months of chelation I had almost a constant

runny and liquid stool which I attributed to mercury being expelled

and digetsion probelms with many fruits and veggies and sdosmetimes

meat. I think the combination of enzymes, Betaine HCL (stomach acid)

Biotin (for yeast) and chromium picolinate (for lowering blood sugar)

helped

Also I really feel the wilson temp approach to thyroid support has

helped me immensely (see wtsmed.com).

Joint Problems

These problems are also very common with a lyme co-infection. Lyme

bugs along with other bacteria love the joints, I think its due to

less oxygen/blood flow or something like this

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , " seashell_555 "

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> > I never really had any joint problems until after these vaccines,

> and it started all of a sudden in all joints so it was rather

> frightening. Sure would like to know if its some kind of an

infection

> or if its mercury, as the vaccines had both (wonderful stuff).

> >

>

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>

> Wow, you just described my symptoms to a " T " . I only had

childhood

> vaccinations, though. And the joint problems seemed to come on

> gradually. One of my shoulders even discolates alot - talk about

> pain! I'm really sorry - start chelating I guess (no mercury

in

> mouth, right?) and olive leaf extract is supposed to be really good

> for viruses. Maybe somebody else will pipe in and offer more help.

>

> Val

>

[Guest guest]

Yes I have been taking Glucosamine Sulfate. It doesn't seem to help much

though. I had a very bad experience at the dentists though, and ironically this

dental mistake seems to have made it more clear that my fillings are the

problem. This dentist I saw decided to do an equilibration on my teeth at my

first appointment to get my fillings replaced. He must have screwed up as he

took so much enamel off my back teeth that they don't touch anymore when I close

my mouth, and this has created a lot of jaw/tooth/mouth pain and discomfort in

the following two weeks.

The ironic part is that now that I can't grind my mercury filled molars (since

they don't touch anymore) I have been feeling significantly less poisoned, and

my joints and connective tissues are feeling better. My suspicion is that since

I can't physically grind my teeth I am ingesting/inhaling less mercury and hence

feeling better. My stomach pain has diminished and it seems like a fog has

lifted. This is a dramatic development for me since these symptoms have been

there for years. So to me, this confirms the diagnosis of mercury illness from

my fillings. Now I just have to get my bite built back up and the mercury out

and I bet I will be doing much better.

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> Subject: Re: Re: Re candida overgrowth TO

> To: frequent-dose-chelation

> Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 8:45 AM

> , are you using glucosomine for joints or have you

> tried it ?

> Kai

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