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Stefani,

As I understand it, Cellular NSIP is mainly inflammatory in nature with minimal fibrosis or scarring as opposed to Fibrotic NSIP which is mainly fibrotic or scarring and minimal inflammation. There is a third sub-type that I've heard of that is Mixed NSIP which contains both inflammation and scarring.

Of the three, cellular NSIP is said to have the best prognosis, responds best to treatment with predinisone and people live the longest. Fibrotic NSIP is not generally thought to respond as well to treatment with steroids.

Oddly however, both Zion and myself have fibrotic NSIP (correct me if I'm wrong ) and we have both responded well to prednisone and have stayed relatively stable for a long time.

I think there's still alot for them to learn about NSIP and pulmonary fibrosis overall.

Beth

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Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 6:02:03 PMSubject: NSIP

Does anyone know the difference between cellular and fibrotic NSIP? While I was at National Jewish I was told I had NSIP. When I received the requested written copies of test results and diagnosis, I discovered that as almost a second thought or parenthetical the cellular ad opposed to fibrotic was attached to the NSIP diagnosis. I figure it is a good thing, but haven't been able to find any clarity on the net. I go see my local pulmo-dude next week and am expecting a prescription for oxygen. Tests show I drop like a rock with movement. I am fine (95-96%) seated or with little movement. If I walk down the hall in my home, I drop to 86, but recover in less than 30 seconds. I have a concentrator that I use for exercise or now while I clean house or put away groceries. Not that I notice, but they told me I need to make these adjustments in my lifestyle (and I am listening to them because I really don't know anything about this stuff).I

just keep reading and 'listening' to other members. It helps.Stefani (age 60, Utah)NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006, Sleep Apnea 4/2009

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Beth

Well, UIP wasn't pulled out separate at one time. More and more

varieties are discovered. I wouldn't be surprised five years from now to

see a list of 7 or 8 different forms of NSIP defined. Then they might

combine them all back. For instance, think of this. Maybe there is just

one NSIP but sometimes it manifests itself fibrotically first and

sometimes with inflammation first. Then perhaps the prednisone doesn't

do anything for the fibrosis already there but it treats the

inflammation and heads off inflammation not manifested yet. Maybe

without the inflammation the fibrosis doesn't progress as rapidly. This

is all hypothesis, but not at all unreasonable to think a single disease

can appear differently. Not at all that different than our

" undifferentiated connective tissue disease " which is we think you have

something there but we have no idea what so we'll wait until it appears

more.

Don't we just love the words Idiopathic, Atypical, Undifferentiated. Can

we just translate to " we don't know. "

>

> Stefani,

> As I understand it, Cellular NSIP is mainly inflammatory in nature

with minimal fibrosis or scarring as opposed to Fibrotic NSIP which is

mainly fibrotic or scarring and minimal inflammation. There is a third

sub-type that I've heard of that is Mixed NSIP which contains both

inflammation and scarring.

>

> Of the three, cellular NSIP is said to have the best prognosis,

responds best to treatment with predinisone and people live the longest.

Fibrotic NSIP is not generally thought to respond as well to treatment

with steroids.

>

> Oddly however, both Zion and myself have fibrotic NSIP (correct

me if I'm wrong ) and we have both responded well to prednisone and

have stayed relatively stable for a long time.

>

> I think there's still alot for them to learn about NSIP and pulmonary

fibrosis overall.

>

> Beth

> Moderator

> Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: sfshaner sfshaner@...

> To: Breathe-Support

> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 6:02:03 PM

> Subject: NSIP

>

>

>

>

>

> Does anyone know the difference between cellular and fibrotic NSIP?

While I was at National Jewish I was told I had NSIP. When I received

the requested written copies of test results and diagnosis, I discovered

that as almost a second thought or parenthetical the cellular ad opposed

to fibrotic was attached to the NSIP diagnosis. I figure it is a good

thing, but haven't been able to find any clarity on the net.

>

> I go see my local pulmo-dude next week and am expecting a prescription

for oxygen. Tests show I drop like a rock with movement. I am fine

(95-96%) seated or with little movement. If I walk down the hall in my

home, I drop to 86, but recover in less than 30 seconds. I have a

concentrator that I use for exercise or now while I clean house or put

away groceries. Not that I notice, but they told me I need to make these

adjustments in my lifestyle (and I am listening to them because I really

don't know anything about this stuff).

>

> I just keep reading and 'listening' to other members. It helps.

>

> Stefani (age 60, Utah)

> NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006, Sleep Apnea 4/2009

>

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