Thyroid TSH, fT4 and fT3 tests

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Hi All

I have just received my 5 yr old son's Tommy above tests and would be

grateful for any help regards of what they may mean.

They are as follows:

TSH 0.7 mU/L (0.40 - 4.00)

fT4 13 pmol/L (10 - 20)

fT3 6.9pmol/L (2.8 - 6.8)

His hair tests are No. 181

Thanks

Kenny

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In frequent-dose-chelation k.ozbo wrote:

Hi All

I have just received my 5 yr old son's Tommy above tests and would be

grateful for any help regards of what they may mean.

----------First of all, may I ask why you had him tested? Was he having some

symptoms that lead you to test him, or because of his hair test? His Na/K ratio

is low, which is a sign of possible thyroid problems, but on the *hyper* thyroid

end, not *hypo*. And with his TSH low and his fT3 high, that does fit.

Not that I'm a thyroid expert by any means, so others correct me if I'm wrong

or jump in with other comments, but it makes sense that his TSH is low, because

the body is sensing enough thyroid hormone, especially fT3, so it doesn't need

to tell the thyroid to make more (TSH stands for thyroid stimulating hormone, so

when you are low thyroid, it should be high, and when your thyroid numbers are

good or high, then it should be lower).

Anyway, in general, alot of times the TSH doesn't mean much, and the fT3 and

fT4 is what is really important, and in general, they should both be in the

upper 1/3 or 1/4 of their range. So according to this, his fT4 is a little low,

but I'm not sure that is too big of a deal, since his fT3 is high, which is the

active form of the thyroid hormone. T4 gets converted to T3 in the body, and it

looks like that is happening, so that is good.

Now, back to my original question, why did you have him tested? Does he have

signs of being *hypo* or low thyroid, despite these tests saying the opposite?

The reason I ask is, I had results similar to this one time, but I also have the

thyroid antibodies called Hashimoto's autoimmune thyroiditis, and I was told

that with this disease, the thyroid will actually sputter sometimes and kick out

a bunch of thyroid hormone, but otherwise in general, you feel hypo thyroid with

the antibodies.

So sorry to be so long winded about this, but if he still has signs of low

thyroid, then you may want to test for antibodies also. Otherwise if he seems

fine or a little on the hyper side, then this fits his numbers, and he's

probably ok, since he's just one point above the range on fT3.

So what did his doctor have to say about this?

They are as follows:

TSH 0.7 mU/L (0.40 - 4.00)

fT4 13 pmol/L (10 - 20)

fT3 6.9pmol/L (2.8 - 6.8)

His hair tests are No. 181

---------Have you done any chelation with him yet? If not, it looks like the

supplementing is helping him excrete stuff, by the higher toxic metals in the

second hair test. Is he doing/feeling better? Does he show any signs of

adrenal fatigue/stress? His hair test might somewhat point to that. You might

want to consider some adrenal support, and maybe that has something to do with

the thyroid numbers also. I think the higher thyroid numbers could be stressing

his adrenals. (Does that make sense to others?)

Otherwise, do you have HTI, the hair test book? You might want to get that to

read about all the other metals he is excreting and look for possible sources of

exposure, if you haven't done so yet.

Good luck, and I hope I made some sense!---------Jackie

Thanks

Kenny

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>

> Hi All

> I have just received my 5 yr old son's Tommy above tests and would be

> grateful for any help regards of what they may mean.

> They are as follows:

>

> TSH 0.7 mU/L (0.40 - 4.00)

> fT4 13 pmol/L (10 - 20)

> fT3 6.9pmol/L (2.8 - 6.8)

>

> His hair tests are No. 181

>

> Thanks

> Kenny

>

Free T3 is quite different for adults and children, they should be using an age

dependent

normal range (which most labs don't and few doctors remember to check).

The appropriate normal range for a child under 8 is about 3.8 to 10.4 in these

units.

Thus he is not high in free T3, he is pretty much midrange - actually a bit

below it - and if

you have some reasonable reason to push it up somewhat that would not only be

fine but

would leave him within legitimate normal limits for age.

Whether to try to push free T3 up for a while to foster catch up neurological

development

or not would depend on lots of details not availalbe from lab tests-but these

test results

do suggest it would be something you could do if it was relevant to your son's

situation.

Andy

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Ok, just ignore my ignorant post! I never even thought about the ranges not

being correct for a child. Thank you *so much* Andy for clearing this up!

-----------Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation andrewhallcutler wrote:

>

> Hi All

> I have just received my 5 yr old son's Tommy above tests and would be

> grateful for any help regards of what they may mean.

> They are as follows:

>

> TSH 0.7 mU/L (0.40 - 4.00)

> fT4 13 pmol/L (10 - 20)

> fT3 6.9pmol/L (2.8 - 6.8)

>

> His hair tests are No. 181

>

> Thanks

> Kenny

>

Free T3 is quite different for adults and children, they should be using an

age dependent

normal range (which most labs don't and few doctors remember to check).

The appropriate normal range for a child under 8 is about 3.8 to 10.4 in these

units.

Thus he is not high in free T3, he is pretty much midrange - actually a bit

below it - and if

you have some reasonable reason to push it up somewhat that would not only be

fine but

would leave him within legitimate normal limits for age.

Whether to try to push free T3 up for a while to foster catch up neurological

development

or not would depend on lots of details not availalbe from lab tests-but these

test results

do suggest it would be something you could do if it was relevant to your son's

situation.

Andy