If knocking heads were legal....(Jacquie V..you will appreciate)...

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>

> Yes! that's exactly it! I just don't expect to see cattiness in 4 & 6 year

> olds!

>

It's there in little girls though. It's amazing.

Salli

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....then two little girls in this neighborhood would be walking around with

two bodies and one head. I swear.

Today was our HOA's semi-annual garage sale. I've been wanting to clean out

the garage anyhow, so I decided to put start cleaning out boxes and putting

stuff out for sale.

I finally got around to a box of Jacqui's old toys and decided it was time

for them to go. Cool, no problem, Jacqui didn't care.

After a while the two little neighbor girls came over to look at the toys.

They did not acknowledge Jacqui, as usual.

One of them wanted to buy a game, so I sold it to them for a quarter and

made a big deal to Jacqui that she made a sale. She was happy. Then the two

little girls turned tail and ran back to one of the girls houses, inside,

obviously to play the game. Ok. We're used to that by now. It disgusts us

to no end, but we are used to it.

THEN, they came back, and wanted to buy ANOTHER game. Well, ok...whatever.

Unfortuantely this time, Jacqui thought they were talking to her when one of

them said " Do you want to play this? " , and Jacqui pipes up very proudly and

says " Yeah!!! We can play on the back of the truck. " They weren't talking

to her. They were talking to eachother. They turned tail AGAIN and ran to

the OTHER girl's house to play the game.

I could have come out swinging...I'm still sick about this. Jacqui's face

just dropped and she wanted me to take her over so she could play too. I

couldn't do it. Her dad couldnt' do it. We tried to explain to her that

some people are not worth being friends with.

Makes me f***** sick. I just wanted to go over there and tell them what

little pukes they are. Jacqui is upstairs now playing by herself, and for

the life of me I can't tell if this kind of thing bothers her or not.

damn it.

Penny :/

~Accept what nature provides and celebrate the differences~

April IS Autism Awareness Month!

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<<<Penny>>>

Those litle snots are not worth your daughters friendship. I know how

badly it hurts, and I am so sorry. In someways I am thankful that for

now Zachary seems oblivious to how others see him. Hopefully she does

not notice, and her feeling were not hurt.

Libby

> ...then two little girls in this neighborhood would be walking

around with

> two bodies and one head. I swear.

>

> Today was our HOA's semi-annual garage sale. I've been wanting to

clean out

> the garage anyhow, so I decided to put start cleaning out boxes and

putting

> stuff out for sale.

>

> I finally got around to a box of Jacqui's old toys and decided it

was time

> for them to go. Cool, no problem, Jacqui didn't care.

>

> After a while the two little neighbor girls came over to look at

the toys.

> They did not acknowledge Jacqui, as usual.

> One of them wanted to buy a game, so I sold it to them for a

quarter and

> made a big deal to Jacqui that she made a sale. She was happy.

Then the two

> little girls turned tail and ran back to one of the girls houses,

inside,

> obviously to play the game. Ok. We're used to that by now. It

disgusts us

> to no end, but we are used to it.

>

> THEN, they came back, and wanted to buy ANOTHER game. Well,

ok...whatever.

> Unfortuantely this time, Jacqui thought they were talking to her

when one of

> them said " Do you want to play this? " , and Jacqui pipes up very

proudly and

> says " Yeah!!! We can play on the back of the truck. " They weren't

talking

> to her. They were talking to eachother. They turned tail AGAIN

and ran to

> the OTHER girl's house to play the game.

>

> I could have come out swinging...I'm still sick about this.

Jacqui's face

> just dropped and she wanted me to take her over so she could play

too. I

> couldn't do it. Her dad couldnt' do it. We tried to explain to her

that

> some people are not worth being friends with.

>

> Makes me f***** sick. I just wanted to go over there and tell them

what

> little pukes they are. Jacqui is upstairs now playing by herself,

and for

> the life of me I can't tell if this kind of thing bothers her or

not.

>

> damn it.

>

> Penny :/

>

> ~Accept what nature provides and celebrate the differences~

> April IS Autism Awareness Month!

[Guest guest]

{{{Jacqui & Penny}}}

I'm thankful is still too little to have friends, and hopefully when

he's older, he'll be like me and his daddy and not care that people ignore

us. I'm sure it will hurt US though, as I know it hurts you.

ellen

If knocking heads were legal....(Jacquie

V..you will appreciate)...

...then two little girls in this neighborhood would be walking around with

two bodies and one head. I swear.

Today was our HOA's semi-annual garage sale. I've been wanting to clean

out

the garage anyhow, so I decided to put start cleaning out boxes and

putting

stuff out for sale.

I finally got around to a box of Jacqui's old toys and decided it was time

for them to go. Cool, no problem, Jacqui didn't care.

After a while the two little neighbor girls came over to look at the toys.

They did not acknowledge Jacqui, as usual.

One of them wanted to buy a game, so I sold it to them for a quarter and

made a big deal to Jacqui that she made a sale. She was happy. Then the

two

little girls turned tail and ran back to one of the girls houses, inside,

obviously to play the game. Ok. We're used to that by now. It disgusts

us

to no end, but we are used to it.

THEN, they came back, and wanted to buy ANOTHER game. Well,

ok...whatever.

Unfortuantely this time, Jacqui thought they were talking to her when one

of

them said " Do you want to play this? " , and Jacqui pipes up very proudly

and

says " Yeah!!! We can play on the back of the truck. " They weren't talking

to her. They were talking to eachother. They turned tail AGAIN and ran

to

the OTHER girl's house to play the game.

I could have come out swinging...I'm still sick about this. Jacqui's face

just dropped and she wanted me to take her over so she could play too. I

couldn't do it. Her dad couldnt' do it. We tried to explain to her that

some people are not worth being friends with.

Makes me f***** sick. I just wanted to go over there and tell them what

little pukes they are. Jacqui is upstairs now playing by herself, and for

the life of me I can't tell if this kind of thing bothers her or not.

damn it.

Penny :/

~Accept what nature provides and celebrate the differences~

April IS Autism Awareness Month!

[Guest guest]

I'm so sorry for Jacquie and you, Penny. I know that doesn't

help.....They are little " pukes " as you say, and I am praying fervently

that their karmas will bite them on the asses some day. Shit.

Maggie

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I think we can all appreciate your feelings on this. I hope it didn't upset

Jacqui.

Sue

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Creeps.

Ben was over here manipulating again today, too.

I don't know about Jacqui, but bounces back the minute Ben is out of

sight, and NEVER questions Ben's attitude to me at any time. I believe it

truly does not weigh on him in the least.

is a very in-the-moment person. He doesn't carry things from one scene

of his life into the next. No matter how lousy Ben treats him one day,

is nothing but glad to see him the next -- not because he's gullible, but

because he truly does seem to let social slights roll right off him.

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

Blech. Kids can be so rotten sometimes.

[Guest guest]

I don't know if it upset Jacqui but it makes me sad!! Kids can be so cruel. I so

don't look forward to my son going though that!!

Hugs to you both!

If knocking heads were legal....(Jacquie V..you

will appreciate)...

...then two little girls in this neighborhood would be walking around with

two bodies and one head. I swear.

Today was our HOA's semi-annual garage sale. I've been wanting to clean out

the garage anyhow, so I decided to put start cleaning out boxes and putting

stuff out for sale.

I finally got around to a box of Jacqui's old toys and decided it was time

for them to go. Cool, no problem, Jacqui didn't care.

After a while the two little neighbor girls came over to look at the toys.

They did not acknowledge Jacqui, as usual.

One of them wanted to buy a game, so I sold it to them for a quarter and

made a big deal to Jacqui that she made a sale. She was happy. Then the two

little girls turned tail and ran back to one of the girls houses, inside,

obviously to play the game. Ok. We're used to that by now. It disgusts us

to no end, but we are used to it.

THEN, they came back, and wanted to buy ANOTHER game. Well, ok...whatever.

Unfortuantely this time, Jacqui thought they were talking to her when one of

them said " Do you want to play this? " , and Jacqui pipes up very proudly and

says " Yeah!!! We can play on the back of the truck. " They weren't talking

to her. They were talking to eachother. They turned tail AGAIN and ran to

the OTHER girl's house to play the game.

I could have come out swinging...I'm still sick about this. Jacqui's face

just dropped and she wanted me to take her over so she could play too. I

couldn't do it. Her dad couldnt' do it. We tried to explain to her that

some people are not worth being friends with.

Makes me f***** sick. I just wanted to go over there and tell them what

little pukes they are. Jacqui is upstairs now playing by herself, and for

the life of me I can't tell if this kind of thing bothers her or not.

damn it.

Penny :/

~Accept what nature provides and celebrate the differences~

April IS Autism Awareness Month!

[Guest guest]

I honestly don't even know how to respond to this. But it makes me

so full of saddness and anger. Do they not know HOW to interract

with her? Are they afraid?

Alyx has problems with a girl across the street. They used to be

best friends then out of the blue, she started saying really mean and

hateful things to Alyx. Well seeing that these girls used to be

friends, her mom and I talked but to no avail. The last time she was

really mean to Alyx with no provocation I gave her a few not so nice

words myself then made her appologize. She hasn't said a word to

Alyx since. That's ok, if she can't be nice, don't say anything at

all.

The girls and boys in my daughter's class have a mainstreamed

severely mentally handicapped boy in the class. We were at the

concert the other night, and he made loud vocalizations and flapped

and stood and bounced...and the girls waved at him and smiled! I was

so proud of all of those kids. The parents didn't stare at him or

say anything bad either. Of course, it's very obvious he's

handicapped.

> ...then two little girls in this neighborhood would be walking

around with

> two bodies and one head. I swear.

>

> Today was our HOA's semi-annual garage sale. I've been wanting to

clean out

> the garage anyhow, so I decided to put start cleaning out boxes and

putting

> stuff out for sale.

>

> I finally got around to a box of Jacqui's old toys and decided it

was time

> for them to go. Cool, no problem, Jacqui didn't care.

>

> After a while the two little neighbor girls came over to look at

the toys.

> They did not acknowledge Jacqui, as usual.

> One of them wanted to buy a game, so I sold it to them for a

quarter and

> made a big deal to Jacqui that she made a sale. She was happy.

Then the two

> little girls turned tail and ran back to one of the girls houses,

inside,

> obviously to play the game. Ok. We're used to that by now. It

disgusts us

> to no end, but we are used to it.

>

> THEN, they came back, and wanted to buy ANOTHER game. Well,

ok...whatever.

> Unfortuantely this time, Jacqui thought they were talking to her

when one of

> them said " Do you want to play this? " , and Jacqui pipes up very

proudly and

> says " Yeah!!! We can play on the back of the truck. " They weren't

talking

> to her. They were talking to eachother. They turned tail AGAIN

and ran to

> the OTHER girl's house to play the game.

>

> I could have come out swinging...I'm still sick about this.

Jacqui's face

> just dropped and she wanted me to take her over so she could play

too. I

> couldn't do it. Her dad couldnt' do it. We tried to explain to her

that

> some people are not worth being friends with.

>

> Makes me f***** sick. I just wanted to go over there and tell them

what

> little pukes they are. Jacqui is upstairs now playing by herself,

and for

> the life of me I can't tell if this kind of thing bothers her or

not.

>

> damn it.

>

> Penny :/

>

> ~Accept what nature provides and celebrate the differences~

> April IS Autism Awareness Month!

[Guest guest]

Penny, I truly don't understand how people, even kids, can be such little

shits. Jacqui seems like such a friendly likeable kid. I just don't get it.

Tamara

mom to Ebony, 5 years old, asd, adhd, bipolar

and , 2, polish (lol)

wife to Terry

>

>Reply-To: parenting_autism

>To: " Parenting Autism " <parenting_autism >

>Subject: If knocking heads were legal....(Jacquie V..you

>will appreciate)...

>Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 14:04:10 -0700

>

>...then two little girls in this neighborhood would be walking around with

>two bodies and one head. I swear.

>

>Today was our HOA's semi-annual garage sale. I've been wanting to clean

>out

>the garage anyhow, so I decided to put start cleaning out boxes and putting

>stuff out for sale.

>

>I finally got around to a box of Jacqui's old toys and decided it was time

>for them to go. Cool, no problem, Jacqui didn't care.

>

>After a while the two little neighbor girls came over to look at the toys.

>They did not acknowledge Jacqui, as usual.

>One of them wanted to buy a game, so I sold it to them for a quarter and

>made a big deal to Jacqui that she made a sale. She was happy. Then the

>two

>little girls turned tail and ran back to one of the girls houses, inside,

>obviously to play the game. Ok. We're used to that by now. It disgusts us

>to no end, but we are used to it.

>

>THEN, they came back, and wanted to buy ANOTHER game. Well, ok...whatever.

>Unfortuantely this time, Jacqui thought they were talking to her when one

>of

>them said " Do you want to play this? " , and Jacqui pipes up very proudly and

>says " Yeah!!! We can play on the back of the truck. " They weren't talking

>to her. They were talking to eachother. They turned tail AGAIN and ran to

>the OTHER girl's house to play the game.

>

>I could have come out swinging...I'm still sick about this. Jacqui's face

>just dropped and she wanted me to take her over so she could play too. I

>couldn't do it. Her dad couldnt' do it. We tried to explain to her that

>some people are not worth being friends with.

>

>Makes me f***** sick. I just wanted to go over there and tell them what

>little pukes they are. Jacqui is upstairs now playing by herself, and for

>the life of me I can't tell if this kind of thing bothers her or not.

>

>damn it.

>

>Penny :/

>

>~Accept what nature provides and celebrate the differences~

>April IS Autism Awareness Month!

>

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((((((((Penny))))))))

Sorry but I just got this post. I'm having a real hard time the past couple of

days getting posts. I'm replying to replies before I even get an original.

Anyway - I'm so sorry to hear what happened with Jacqui and the neighborhood

girls. Obviously those girls haven't been taught how you're supposed to treat

people - ALL people. Geez.....talk about poor social skills??!!!! Sometimes I

think our kids interact BETTER than some NT kids I've met.

Please give Jacqui a hug and tell her I wish we lived closer so she could come

and play with us anytime she wanted to!

Love, prayers and heart hugs,

Debbie (GA), Mom to Evan (4.5 y/o with ToF, RBBB, Autism Spectrum Disorder,

Asthma); (now a whole year old and HH and NT?); and my 3 angel babies

whom I will finally see when God says it's time!

9:1-3

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Date: 2003/04/26 Sat PM 05:04:10 EDT

To: " Parenting Autism " <parenting_autism >

Subject: If knocking heads were legal....(Jacquie V..you will

appreciate)...

============================================================

[Guest guest]

Aw, that is so painful....what is the matter with children today?

I am feeling hurt for you too....even as adults we don't like to

feel left out.

Miserable little shits.....Jacquie is far better than them.

Walk tall and ignore them, if I thought my daughters were party to

anything like that I would be crazed.

A couple of weeks ago Liesel came in crying because she was scared,

the neighbours kid screamed at her to go away SHE WAS IN HER OWN

GARDEN and was watching them play ball.

After that she refused to go out - until I drummed it into her that

it was her garden and they were silly little boys....ACK!

Hugs

Louisa

[Guest guest]

> Jacqui is upstairs now playing by herself, and for

> the life of me I can't tell if this kind of thing bothers her or

not.

>

> damn it.

>

((((hugs)))) This would be one time would it would be good for Jacqui

to be blissfully unaware. (

Tina

[Guest guest]

> Makes me f***** sick. I just wanted to go over there and tell them what

> little pukes they are. Jacqui is upstairs now playing by herself, and for

> the life of me I can't tell if this kind of thing bothers her or not.

>

Oh, yuck, Penny. I am sorry. Little girls are worse in this kind of way

than little boys, I am afraid. Little boys have different issues, but not

this kind of junior cattiness.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yes! that's exactly it! I just don't expect to see cattiness in 4 & 6 year

olds!

>>>>>>

What bugs me the most is it is all so RUDE!

<<<<<<

VERY!!!

Penny

[Guest guest]

That's a great way to look at it Jacquie. I really should try that, because

that is EXACTLY what I want for her. I want for her to NOT give a shit!

Thanks!

Penny

Re: If knocking heads were legal....(Jacquie

V..you will appreciate)...

> I'd like to believe this too. It took her a milisecond longer to recover

> this time that in the past, and I know it bothered me WAY more than it

> bothered her.

>

> Still sucks though, ya know?

Absolutely. Because WE know how WE'D feel if it happened to us, and the

LAST thing we want for our kiddos is to feel that way. Brings out the Mama

Bear. :-)

To tell you the truth though, I think I often project my own fear of

rejection on to him. I'm not saying YOU do that, but I think I do. Because

when I step back and really look at him, he really doesn't seem to mind.

Or, when he DOES mind, he recovers very quickly, more quickly than I ever

did.

When people treat him badly, or reject him, I definitely feel it as a blow

to my gut. So what I try to do, and this sounds WEIRD, is to envy him for

just not giving a shit. I mean, wouldn't that be WONDERFUL?

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

(((((Penny)))))

And sweet Jacqui.

We need to form a commune, dammit.

Sissi