Re: Hair test No. 112c for Sunshine - can someone review it pls

[Guest guest]

>

> Can someone review my hair test pretty please.

>

> Dean has been keeping my hair test in a series and it's the third

> hair test I need reviewing. " Hair test 112c " dated 8/18/2008

>

> http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/files/hairtest_112.pdf

>

> Test does not meet the counting rules.

>

It comes very close to meeting the 4 in the red zone.

> Test shows glucose intolerance and blood sugar regulation problems.

> What does this mean? What part of me is not functioning correctly and

> what can I do about it?

Keep up with the diet that you are using for now and include chromium

picolinate with meals.

>Is this an adrenal issue?

>

It is for some people, but there are other factors as well. I don't

see the adrenal sign on your test.

> Interesting to note the lithium and manganese still low….these are

> two thing I did NOT supplement…..so maybe its time to?

>

Yes. Search onibasu.com or read HTI for Andy's comments on these two

supplements, so as not to supplement at too high a dose.

> Hair test for Sunshine – tested 18/8/2008

>

> 1) What are your current symptoms and health history?

> No major symptoms anymore. (see previous hair tests for all my nasty

> symptoms)

> Sugar problems, completely managed by diet, but can now eat fruit 1

> or 2 per day with no problem. I cannot eat carrots nor beetroot(which

> I assume is a sugar issue??).

Yes. When you are totally better you should be able to eat more fruit

and carrots, beetroot.

Everything else is fine. I never eat

> junk food, processed foods nor sugars

Good for you.

so I have no idea if a problem

> or not. I expect ok in small doses, except maybe sugar.

> Very mild tinnitus sometimes.

> Only trouble I get is when I chelate. When I do not chelate I have no

> symptoms and lead a normal life. When I chelate it always gives me

> minor symptoms, digestive issues, maybe a bit of anger for a couple

> of hours, a little tired sometimes, low-ish energy. This is normal

> and has been same throughout my chelation but now that I am symptom

> free…I really notice feeling under the weather when I chelate…usually

> take 7-10 days after the round to feel symptoms free and pretty good

> again. But all symptoms are mild.

>

This means that you still have lots of metals to get out. I hope that

you will continue to chelate, and increase the doses with time, so

that you get those nasty metals out and prevent future health problems.

> 2) Dental history

> I had metal braces when I was approx 14 years old, for about 2 years.

> I assume I had amalgam fillings at the time.

> I have had a metal " land bridge " for 15 years, when I definitely

> had amalgams in my mouth during that time.

> 10-11 years ago I had 8 amalgams put in my mouth in one sitting.

> Looking back in hindsight, that was when my troubles started.

> Jan 2007, I had the land bridge replaced with a non-metallic

> bridge.

> Feb 2007, I had 1 large amalgam removed with no protection by a

> normal dentist. (All my troubles got considerably worse then.)

> April - November 2007 – all amalgams removed per quadrant and amalgam

> free 1st Nov 2007

>

> 4) What dentistry did your mother have at any time before or during

> pregnancy?

> I assume amalgams. Her father, my grandfather, was a dentist and I

> frequently played in his dental practice as a kid.

>

> 5) What vaccinations have you had and when (including flu and

> especially travel shots)?

> All vaccinations. Lots of travel and flu spots.

>

> 6) Supplements and medications (including dosages) taken at time of

> hair test, or for the 3-6 months before the sample was taken.

> COQ10 - 150mg

> Molybdenum 1000ug

> Vit B12 – 50ug

> Vit C – 2-4grams

> Vit B5 – 2000 mgs

> Kelp – 4-5 caps

> 1 pinch at each breakfast + dinner – Epsom salt (this is instead of

> magnesium citrate)

Maybe you need more than this. I have increased to one tsp per day!

spread out over the day.

> Calcium 800mg (in the form of seaweed)

> Betaine & pepsin 960mg + 20 mg

> Multi Vit B

> Taurin 2000mg

> Zinc – 30mg per day

> Niacaminde (Vit D3) 2000mg

> ACE 1000mg (Bovine adrenal cortex extract)

> Thyroid Glandular 6 caps – 840mg

> Coconut oil. – a fingers dap

>

Is vit E missing? Do you have a source of omega 3 oil? What about

vit D? You could have a test for 25(OH)vit D and see where your

levels are at. The yahoo best bet diet group has a system for getting

the test in the UK.

> 7) Other information you feel may be relevant?

> All my major symptoms and chronic pain have gone…………Hooray!

Good for you. I am concerned that they might come back if you don't

continue to chelate.

> I have been hard at work cleaning my poor damaged body with every

> herbal cleanse I can find. Bowel cleanses, kidney cleanses, liver

> cleanses (not liver flushes) and every conceivable health regaining

> activity I read about….. I tried. My life has been dedicated to

> getting better, with a constant flow of cleanses/actions almost every

> day for 18 months. Now I am better I can live a bit again.

>

> At the time of the test I had done 19 chelation rounds in 8 months

> and probably 6-8 rounds in the last 4-5 months. Current dose and

> timing is 5mg DMSA only every 2.5 hours in the day and 3 hours at

> night. Minimum 2 weeks inbetween rounds.

>

5 mg DMSA is such a low dose. Are you planning to continue to

increase to the dose range Andy recommends of 1/8-1/2 mg/lb and

continue to chelate?

You will need to include ALA at a low dose and increase with time,

continue to chelate in order to get metals out of your brain and organs.

I'm so pleased to hear that you have had such great progress. I

remember some of your early posts.

J

> 8) What is your location - city & country (so that we can learn where

> certain toxins are more prevalent).

> London, UK

>

> Sunshine

>

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

>

> Can someone review my hair test pretty please.

>

> Dean has been keeping my hair test in a series and it's the third

> hair test I need reviewing. " Hair test 112c " dated 8/18/2008

>

> http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/files/hairtest_112.pdf

>

> Test does not meet the counting rules.

>

It comes very close to meeting the 4 in the red zone.

----------His first hair does, #112a, but not his most current, #112c. The

current hair test does not meet the counting rules, and looks more normal than

his first test, which is what should be expected with chelation and

supplementation and diet changes, etc.---------Jackie

> Test shows glucose intolerance and blood sugar regulation problems.

> What does this mean? What part of me is not functioning correctly and

> what can I do about it?

---------The ratio Ca/Mg, is considered the blood sugar ratio, and your last

test is close to being out of range, so could be pointing to possible blood

sugar problems. Have you ever had your blood sugar tested?-----Jackie

Keep up with the diet that you are using for now and include chromium

picolinate with meals.

>Is this an adrenal issue?

----------Low blood sugar is often an adrenal issue, but not sure if your

problem is high or low?----------Jackie

>

It is for some people, but there are other factors as well. I don't

see the adrenal sign on your test.

----------He is treating his adrenals, so probably reflects that.----Jackie

> Interesting to note the lithium and manganese still low..these are

> two thing I did NOT supplement...so maybe its time to?

>

Yes. Search onibasu.com or read HTI for Andy's comments on these two

supplements, so as not to supplement at too high a dose.

---------Yes, Cutler recommends supplementing lithium when it is low red. He

says to be careful with manganese, as not everyone needs it. He covers these in

HTI, or search posts for these supps.---------Jackie

> Hair test for Sunshine - tested 18/8/2008

>

> 1) What are your current symptoms and health history?

> No major symptoms anymore. (see previous hair tests for all my nasty

> symptoms)

> Sugar problems, completely managed by diet, but can now eat fruit 1

> or 2 per day with no problem. I cannot eat carrots nor beetroot(which

> I assume is a sugar issue??).

Yes. When you are totally better you should be able to eat more fruit

and carrots, beetroot.

Everything else is fine. I never eat

> junk food, processed foods nor sugars

Good for you.

so I have no idea if a problem

> or not. I expect ok in small doses, except maybe sugar.

> Very mild tinnitus sometimes.

> Only trouble I get is when I chelate. When I do not chelate I have no

> symptoms and lead a normal life. When I chelate it always gives me

> minor symptoms, digestive issues, maybe a bit of anger for a couple

> of hours, a little tired sometimes, low-ish energy. This is normal

> and has been same throughout my chelation but now that I am symptom

> free.I really notice feeling under the weather when I chelate.usually

> take 7-10 days after the round to feel symptoms free and pretty good

> again. But all symptoms are mild.

>

This means that you still have lots of metals to get out. I hope that

you will continue to chelate, and increase the doses with time, so

that you get those nasty metals out and prevent future health problems.

---------I agree with , symptoms means you should keep chelating. Cutler

does say that many people make the mistake of stopping too soon. Keep on

chelating!!!----------Jackie

> 2) Dental history

> I had metal braces when I was approx 14 years old, for about 2 years.

> I assume I had amalgam fillings at the time.

> I have had a metal " land bridge " for 15 years, when I definitely

> had amalgams in my mouth during that time.

> 10-11 years ago I had 8 amalgams put in my mouth in one sitting.

> Looking back in hindsight, that was when my troubles started.

> Jan 2007, I had the land bridge replaced with a non-metallic

> bridge.

> Feb 2007, I had 1 large amalgam removed with no protection by a

> normal dentist. (All my troubles got considerably worse then.)

> April - November 2007 - all amalgams removed per quadrant and amalgam

> free 1st Nov 2007

>

> 4) What dentistry did your mother have at any time before or during

> pregnancy?

> I assume amalgams. Her father, my grandfather, was a dentist and I

> frequently played in his dental practice as a kid.

>

> 5) What vaccinations have you had and when (including flu and

> especially travel shots)?

> All vaccinations. Lots of travel and flu spots.

>

> 6) Supplements and medications (including dosages) taken at time of

> hair test, or for the 3-6 months before the sample was taken.

> COQ10 - 150mg

> Molybdenum 1000ug

> Vit B12 - 50ug

> Vit C - 2-4grams

> Vit B5 - 2000 mgs

> Kelp - 4-5 caps

> 1 pinch at each breakfast + dinner - Epsom salt (this is instead of

> magnesium citrate)

Maybe you need more than this. I have increased to one tsp per day!

spread out over the day.

> Calcium 800mg (in the form of seaweed)

> Betaine & pepsin 960mg + 20 mg

> Multi Vit B

> Taurin 2000mg

> Zinc - 30mg per day

> Niacaminde (Vit D3) 2000mg

> ACE 1000mg (Bovine adrenal cortex extract)

> Thyroid Glandular 6 caps - 840mg

> Coconut oil. - a fingers dap

>

Is vit E missing? Do you have a source of omega 3 oil? What about

vit D? You could have a test for 25(OH)vit D and see where your

levels are at. The yahoo best bet diet group has a system for getting

the test in the UK.

> 7) Other information you feel may be relevant?

> All my major symptoms and chronic pain have gone....Hooray!

Good for you. I am concerned that they might come back if you don't

continue to chelate.

> I have been hard at work cleaning my poor damaged body with every

> herbal cleanse I can find. Bowel cleanses, kidney cleanses, liver

> cleanses (not liver flushes) and every conceivable health regaining

> activity I read about... I tried. My life has been dedicated to

> getting better, with a constant flow of cleanses/actions almost every

> day for 18 months. Now I am better I can live a bit again.

>

> At the time of the test I had done 19 chelation rounds in 8 months

> and probably 6-8 rounds in the last 4-5 months. Current dose and

> timing is 5mg DMSA only every 2.5 hours in the day and 3 hours at

> night. Minimum 2 weeks inbetween rounds.

>

5 mg DMSA is such a low dose. Are you planning to continue to

increase to the dose range Andy recommends of 1/8-1/2 mg/lb and

continue to chelate?

You will need to include ALA at a low dose and increase with time,

continue to chelate in order to get metals out of your brain and organs.

I'm so pleased to hear that you have had such great progress. I

remember some of your early posts.

J

> 8) What is your location - city & country (so that we can learn where

> certain toxins are more prevalent).

> London, UK

>

> Sunshine

>

[Guest guest]

> > http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/files/hairtest_112.pdf

> > Test shows glucose intolerance and blood sugar regulation

problems.

> > What does this mean? What part of me is not functioning

correctly and

> > what can I do about it?

>

> ---------The ratio Ca/Mg, is considered the blood sugar ratio,

and your last test is close to being out of range, so could be

pointing to possible blood sugar problems. Have you ever had your

blood sugar tested?-----Jackie

-.-.-.-.-.-.- yes, i had it tested about 8 months ago, but a lot has

changed in that time. it was real low, doc was quite concerned, he

said i was hypoglycemic and i was pre-diabetic but said there was

nothing i could do about it anyway. I will not be seeing that doctor

again in any case. .-.-.-.-.-.-Sunshine

> Keep up with the diet that you are using for now and include

chromium

> picolinate with meals.

..-.-.-.-.-.-.thks

>

> >Is this an adrenal issue?

>

> ----------Low blood sugar is often an adrenal issue, but not sure

if your problem is high or low?----------Jackie

>

> >

>

> It is for some people, but there are other factors as well. I

don't

> see the adrenal sign on your test.

>

> ----------He is treating his adrenals, so probably reflects that.-

---Jackie

..-.-.-.-.-.-.-yes, i agree with that, i am treating the adrenals and

test reflects that. i will continue to treat the adrenals.

> > Only trouble I get is when I chelate. When I do not chelate I

have no

> > symptoms and lead a normal life. When I chelate it always gives

me

> > minor symptoms, digestive issues, maybe a bit of anger for a

couple

> > of hours, a little tired sometimes, low-ish energy. This is

normal

> > and has been same throughout my chelation but now that I am

symptom

> > free.I really notice feeling under the weather when I

chelate.usually

> > take 7-10 days after the round to feel symptoms free and pretty

good

> > again. But all symptoms are mild.

> >

>

> This means that you still have lots of metals to get out. I hope

that

> you will continue to chelate, and increase the doses with time, so

> that you get those nasty metals out and prevent future health

problems.

>

> ---------I agree with , symptoms means you should keep

chelating. Cutler does say that many people make the mistake of

stopping too soon. Keep on chelating!!!----------Jackie

..-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-yes, I plan on continuing to chelate. never again do

i want to go through what happened to me in 2007. I'm in this for the

long haul to ensure my life does not fall apart ever again. It is

difficult to motivate myself to chelate because it does make me feel

worse, but reading the repeated stories of the mercury coming back to

bite people is enough motivation for me. I just have to think back to

how bad i got last year to motivate me to get all the mercury out.

> Is vit E missing? Do you have a source of omega 3 oil? What about

> vit D? You could have a test for 25(OH)vit D and see where your

> levels are at. The yahoo best bet diet group has a system for

getting

> the test in the UK.

..-.-.-.-.-.-.- I stopped dosing Vit E a while ago, but i just re-read

HTI and i will restart it as it should make chelation easier.

Ditto Vit D but i will probably not restart that.

Omega 3 oils will have to come from my diet as i had big problems

with rancid oils as i cannot tell when they are rancid or not. Was a

real problem and took a longtime to figure out. At one point i was

supplementing 4 oils a day and they where all newly bought and kept

in the fridge and all 4 of the different oils where rancid. Life will

have to proceed without supplementing them as this it not a trap i

want to fall in again.

>

> > 7) Other information you feel may be relevant?

> > All my major symptoms and chronic pain have gone....Hooray!

>

> Good for you. I am concerned that they might come back if you

don't

> continue to chelate.

-.-.-.-.-.-. yup, me too.

> > At the time of the test I had done 19 chelation rounds in 8

months

> > and probably 6-8 rounds in the last 4-5 months. Current dose

and

> > timing is 5mg DMSA only every 2.5 hours in the day and 3 hours

at

> > night. Minimum 2 weeks inbetween rounds.

> >

>

> 5 mg DMSA is such a low dose. Are you planning to continue to

> increase to the dose range Andy recommends of 1/8-1/2 mg/lb and

> continue to chelate?

..-.-.-.-.-.-.-2 weeks ago i did increase the dose from 5mg DMSA to

6mg dmsa. I struggled through 1 day before I had to stop the round

early and then spent 2 days with brain fog. 5mg is my top whack at

the moment. I am gonna reduce the dose to 4mg's in attempt to get

zero symptoms so i can chelate every weekend. 5mg's is fine but i

need to wait two weeks inbetween rounds before i get back to my best.

>

> You will need to include ALA at a low dose and increase with time,

> continue to chelate in order to get metals out of your brain and

organs.

..-.-.-.-.-.-.- yes, that is the next step. I plan testing ALA at 4mg

and using the same timing as i'm already at. It is ordered from Dean

and should be with me soon.

>

> I'm so pleased to hear that you have had such great progress. I

> remember some of your early posts.

-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- Yeah, it was a fairly bumpy ride to start with, but

all the hard work has paid of handsomely. Being able to exercise and

work out again is helping big time too.

Thx both of you for checking my hair test. Thx a million;-)

Sunshine

[Guest guest]

>> ---------The ratio Ca/Mg, is considered the blood sugar ratio,

> and your last test is close to being out of range, so could be

> pointing to possible blood sugar problems. Have you ever had your

> blood sugar tested?-----Jackie

>

> -.-.-.-.-.-.- yes, i had it tested about 8 months ago, but a lot has

> changed in that time. it was real low, doc was quite concerned, he

> said i was hypoglycemic and i was pre-diabetic but said there was

> nothing i could do about it anyway. I will not be seeing that doctor

> again in any case. .-.-.-.-.-.-Sunshine

Hi Sunshine,

The HbA1c marker gives you a better idea of blood sugar levels over the past

90 days, while standard blood sugar tests are testing the circulating level

in the moment.

So that is a better test for you to pursue

DeanSA

[Guest guest]

> Test shows glucose intolerance and blood sugar regulation problems.

> What does this mean? What part of me is not functioning correctly and

> what can I do about it? Is this an adrenal issue?

Andy has suggested chromium, vanadium, and bilberry to help with blood

sugar regulation, along with low glycemic diet.

Adrenal function is only one factor that contributes, but it is an

important one, so make sure your adrenal support is optimal. Have you

done a saliva test while on your current regimen? Also be sure you

are not over-treating or under-treating thyroid.

You might want to consider your taurine intake. Taurine seems to lower

my blood sugar

Sticking with low sulfur diet may also help with blood sugar management.

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