Guest guest Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 You go girl!! They may not respond but at least you are at peace with what you had to say on behalf of Phil and your family. PROUD of you ~~ hugs and prayers donna flipper759@... wrote: Yes I did send it and I shall make NO apologies for it! It is the truth and I am tired of sugar coating it for appearances sake. Narice Dear Bishop & Pastor Lundwall, It is my understanding that Bishop will be at Mt. Calvary on January 8 The church's and my own question to him and the synod is no different from the one Phil put to you from his hospital bed WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN FOR 2 1/2 YEARS???!!!!! I saw Bishop and for that matter you only at 2 times since arriving at Mt. Calvary both were administrative duties related to my husband's cancer and impending death. There WAS NO pastoral care from the Bishop or really yourself because it seems to me all his cancer and now death mean to you is a a vacancy to be filled. This thought is not only mine, but it was Phil's, it is my 2 sons and a good portion of my congregation's. Other pastors have asked and I have made excuses for you both. Thank God our Conference took the initiative the synod WOULD NOT provide and have provided our immediate and parish family with the love and support we needed. Support is much much more than mailing in pension or disability forms and obtaining interims, though that is of course necessary It has always been Phil's and my belief that the office of Bishop is first and foremost that of pastor to his/her pastors. When Phil was first diagnosed he felt no hope from the person he needed it from most. One does not instill hope in a frightened and dying 43 year old pastor by prefacing sentences with: AND WHEN YOU DIE!! This and a contingency plan put in place while the diagnosis was only A WEEK old did not exactly endear us to the Synod, the Bishop or yourself. It sure sounded like the gruesome undertaker waiting for his next customer! I am frankly proud of the council at Mt. Calvary who had the willingness to stand up and say NO!! The plan would have killed Phil and ultimately the congregation because it sought to fill a pulpit rather than listen to God's call. They have supported me in a way the synod would not with love and care and putting our needs above their own convenience. A love that must have been EXACTLY what Jesus meant when He said You did it to the least of these little ones and therefore you have done it for Me Mt. Calvary has its problems but to its great credit it is putting God's call above its own comfort. I have no doubt that God will bless such a ministry and make it grow. With Liese's help and a strong council I am hopeful for a future built on the solid foundation of Jesus Christ. Anything else is not worthy of Phil's memory or the congregation he loved Sincerely, Narice May Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 Now that is a powerful letter. That was certainly not a christian way to treat anyone, least of all one of their ministers. They both should be shamed by your letter, but I rather doubt it. It is good to hear that you are strong enough to stand up and be heard though. Take care of yourself. Merry Christmas to you and your family Pat Crain flipper759@... wrote: Yes I did send it and I shall make NO apologies for it! It is the truth and I am tired of sugar coating it for appearances sake. Narice Dear Bishop & Pastor Lundwall, It is my understanding that Bishop will be at Mt. Calvary on January 8 The church's and my own question to him and the synod is no different from the one Phil put to you from his hospital bed WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN FOR 2 1/2 YEARS???!!!!! I saw Bishop and for that matter you only at 2 times since arriving at Mt. Calvary both were administrative duties related to my husband's cancer and impending death. There WAS NO pastoral care from the Bishop or really yourself because it seems to me all his cancer and now death mean to you is a a vacancy to be filled. This thought is not only mine, but it was Phil's, it is my 2 sons and a good portion of my congregation's. Other pastors have asked and I have made excuses for you both. Thank God our Conference took the initiative the synod WOULD NOT provide and have provided our immediate and parish family with the love and support we needed. Support is much much more than mailing in pension or disability forms and obtaining interims, though that is of course necessary It has always been Phil's and my belief that the office of Bishop is first and foremost that of pastor to his/her pastors. When Phil was first diagnosed he felt no hope from the person he needed it from most. One does not instill hope in a frightened and dying 43 year old pastor by prefacing sentences with: AND WHEN YOU DIE!! This and a contingency plan put in place while the diagnosis was only A WEEK old did not exactly endear us to the Synod, the Bishop or yourself. It sure sounded like the gruesome undertaker waiting for his next customer! I am frankly proud of the council at Mt. Calvary who had the willingness to stand up and say NO!! The plan would have killed Phil and ultimately the congregation because it sought to fill a pulpit rather than listen to God's call. They have supported me in a way the synod would not with love and care and putting our needs above their own convenience. A love that must have been EXACTLY what Jesus meant when He said You did it to the least of these little ones and therefore you have done it for Me Mt. Calvary has its problems but to its great credit it is putting God's call above its own comfort. I have no doubt that God will bless such a ministry and make it grow. With Liese's help and a strong council I am hopeful for a future built on the solid foundation of Jesus Christ. Anything else is not worthy of Phil's memory or the congregation he loved Sincerely, Narice May Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 Narice, Those are very strong words that were needed to be said in hopes to awaken this rude man, so hopefully he does not hurt someone else in the way you and your family have been. I have admired you through out this whole ordeal with Phill being ill and his death. I now admire you more at your strength and wisdom. May God give you comfort and help us all learn from you. Love, Ingrid > > > > > Yes I did send it and I shall make NO apologies for it! It is the truth and > I am tired of sugar coating it for appearances sake. > Narice > > > > > Dear Bishop & Pastor Lundwall, > > It is my understanding that Bishop will be at Mt. Calvary on January 8 > > The church's and my own question to him and the synod is no different from > the one Phil put to you from his hospital bed WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN FOR 2 1/2 > YEARS???!!!!! > > I saw Bishop and for that matter you only at 2 times since arriving at > Mt. Calvary > both were administrative duties related to my husband's cancer and impending > death. > > There WAS NO pastoral care from the Bishop or really yourself because it > seems to me all his cancer and now death mean to you is a a vacancy to be filled. > > This thought is not only mine, but it was Phil's, it is my 2 sons and a good > portion of my congregation's. Other pastors have asked and I have made > excuses for you both. > Thank God our Conference took the initiative the synod WOULD NOT provide and > have provided our immediate and parish family with the love and support we > needed. > Support is much much more than mailing in pension or disability forms and > obtaining interims, though that is of course necessary > > It has always been Phil's and my belief that the office of Bishop is first > and foremost that of pastor to his/her pastors. When Phil was first diagnosed > he felt no hope from the person he needed it from most. One does not instill > hope in a frightened and dying 43 year old pastor by prefacing sentences > with: AND WHEN YOU DIE!! > > This and a contingency plan put in place while the diagnosis was only A WEEK > old did not exactly endear us to the Synod, the Bishop or yourself. It sure > sounded like the gruesome undertaker waiting for his next customer! > > > I am frankly proud of the council at Mt. Calvary who had the willingness to > stand up and say > NO!! > The plan would have killed Phil and ultimately the congregation because it > sought to fill a pulpit rather than listen to God's call. They have supported > me in a way the synod would not with love and care and putting our needs > above their own convenience. A love that must have been EXACTLY what Jesus meant > when He said You did it to the least of these little ones and therefore you > have done it for Me > > Mt. Calvary has its problems but to its great credit it is putting God's > call above its own comfort. I have no doubt that God will bless such a ministry > and make it grow. > With Liese's help and a strong council I am hopeful for a future built on > the solid foundation of Jesus Christ. > > Anything else is not worthy of Phil's memory or the congregation he loved > > Sincerely, > Narice May > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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