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I have had rheumatoid arthritis for 12 years. About 8 years ago I had

all of my amalgams out and did a couple of weeks of DMPS/DMSA

chelation through a naturopath. He didn't use Andy's schedule.

Mercury levels in urine were negligible at the end of the chelation

series. I had no side effects and no improvement in my arthritis.

However I have done a lot of other things, and my arthritis went to a

dull simmer until a year or so ago. All of the alternative things

that used to work, have not worked. Numerous different people asked

if I had heavy metals checked. An MD suggested a Myers cocktail with

EDTA challenge to test metals. I showed above normal lead and

aluminum. I began a series of 5 EDTA IVs and began having symptoms of

very low adrenals. My rheumatologist put me on 60mg hydrocortisone.

Then I found this group. I have tried 2 sets of 3 days on/4 days off

100mg DMSA/100mg ALA. I seem to have no negative response.

I have taken much higher doses of ALA in the past and noticed it has

an anti-inflammatory affect on me. I am considering continuous ALA

in between sets of DMSA (3 days on/4 days off). Given my short

description, would this be recommended? Could I space the ALA farther

apart?

Thank you,

Sue

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> I have had rheumatoid arthritis for 12 years. About 8 years ago I

had

> all of my amalgams out and did a couple of weeks of DMPS/DMSA

> chelation through a naturopath. He didn't use Andy's schedule.

> Mercury levels in urine were negligible at the end of the chelation

> series.

Not detecting mercury in the urine doesn't give you any information

that tells you anything much.

I had no side effects and no improvement in my arthritis.

>

> However I have done a lot of other things, and my arthritis went to

a

> dull simmer until a year or so ago. All of the alternative things

> that used to work, have not worked. Numerous different people asked

> if I had heavy metals checked.

> An MD suggested a Myers cocktail with

> EDTA challenge to test metals. I showed above normal lead and

> aluminum.

Which is expected because EDTA removes lead, not mercury.

I began a series of 5 EDTA IVs and began having symptoms of

> very low adrenals.

I hope that you won't be having any more EDTA IVs

> My rheumatologist put me on 60mg hydrocortisone.

>

Are you still at this dose? For how long?

> Then I found this group. I have tried 2 sets of 3 days on/4 days

off

> 100mg DMSA/100mg ALA.

That is a very high dose to start with. Normally we recommend

started at about 12.5 mg per dose.

Are you taking the doses at 3 h intervals?

Symptoms often creep up on a person. Doing 2 rounds gives no

guarantee about the next round. I would lower the doses.

> I seem to have no negative response.

>

The cortisol could be masking a response.

> I have taken much higher doses of ALA in the past and noticed it has

> an anti-inflammatory affect on me. I am considering continuous ALA

> in between sets of DMSA (3 days on/4 days off). Given my short

> description, would this be recommended?

Normally we recommend taking ALA with DMSA at 3 h intervals, around

the clock, for at least 3 days and 2 nights.

If you want to do one week on and one week off, that's ok.

Continuous chelation is only recommended under certain circumstances

after a person has considerable chelation experience and much more is

known about the case. I would not advise it as I would not want to

take any chance that your arthritis worsens. The doses that you are

using are too high.

From your description we don't know if you are mercury poisoned or

not.

An essential elements hair test would give useful information,

although the EDTA, ALA and use of DMSA and DMPS in the past may have

driven mercury deep leading to a misleading picture on a hair test.

> Could I space the ALA farther

> apart?

>

No. ALA needs to be taken in 3 h intervals or less, never more (4 h

only at night so as to get some more sleep, but some people must

stick with 3 h at night as well).

> Thank you,

>

> Sue

>

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Thank you for taking the time to respond. No, no more EDTA IVs. I was

dosing every 4 hrs, but will change to 3 hrs during the day as you

suggested.

I have been on this hydrocortisone dose for two weeks. Once I have

figured out what the rheumatologist wants to do (ie pain relief, etc),

I will begin to do the tapers.

I think you are right about too high a dose. I am going to switch to

50mg DMSA, but keep to 100mg ALA since I see such a benefit from it.

Before finding this group I took 450mg ALA once per day for months. I

noticed the anti-inflammatory effect of ALA at that time too.

> An essential elements hair test would give useful information,

> although the EDTA, ALA and use of DMSA and DMPS in the past may have

> driven mercury deep leading to a misleading picture on a hair test.

When I had the hair test done 8 years ago it showed elevated mercury.

Given the short time I was on DMSA/DMPS at that time, I'm sure you

are right about mercury going deeper.

I really appreciate the time you took to respond. It is very helpful

to have a sounding board.

Thanks,

Sue

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Elevated mercury on a hair test is one thing that points to mercury

toxicity.

Be sure to take the ALA and DMSA at 3 h intervals (around the clock)

in order to remove the mercury from your body.

I still think that the dose of ALA is too high, but it is up to you of

course.

Reading Andy's books (links section) would be helpful, if you haven't

already done so.

J

>

>

> Thank you for taking the time to respond. No, no more EDTA IVs. I was

> dosing every 4 hrs, but will change to 3 hrs during the day as you

> suggested.

>

> I have been on this hydrocortisone dose for two weeks. Once I have

> figured out what the rheumatologist wants to do (ie pain relief, etc),

> I will begin to do the tapers.

>

> I think you are right about too high a dose. I am going to switch to

> 50mg DMSA, but keep to 100mg ALA since I see such a benefit from it.

> Before finding this group I took 450mg ALA once per day for months. I

> noticed the anti-inflammatory effect of ALA at that time too.

>

> > An essential elements hair test would give useful information,

> > although the EDTA, ALA and use of DMSA and DMPS in the past may have

> > driven mercury deep leading to a misleading picture on a hair test.

>

> When I had the hair test done 8 years ago it showed elevated mercury.

> Given the short time I was on DMSA/DMPS at that time, I'm sure you

> are right about mercury going deeper.

>

> I really appreciate the time you took to respond. It is very helpful

> to have a sounding board.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Sue

>

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