Re: Round II of ALA Chelation

October 11, 2008

In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

Hi, all.

I just felt like posting that I started my second round of ALA

chelation (the Culter way) last night. I've got a long week-end, so

it will be easy to manage the doses. So far so good!

Just to document, I am doing 30 mgs every 3 hours, and dosing every 3

hours at night instead of 4.

The 30 mgs is about 1/5 mg / lb of bodyweight for me. So, I'm still

at a moderate dose.

----------Have you done any chelation at all previous to this? So your first

round at this dose went fine? You are within the suggested dosage range, its

just that many people can't start with a dose that high, so we do suggest you be

cautious and proceed slowly. I would suggest doing many rounds at this dosage,

before increasing, because others have reported that symptoms have crepted up on

them after a number of rounds, or when increasing too fast. But if your

symptoms are manageable on and off rounds, then this should be fine. I'm glad

it's going well for you so far!---------Jackie

---

Question for knowledgeable members and/or moderators: Is extra body

perspiration (underarm) indicative of anything when chelating? I am

not sure if this is related to the chelator (ALA) or not, but have

noticed this today.

---------I can't recall this off the top of my head, but may have been

discussed before. You could search archives using onibasu to see what you find

on it. But anyway, I would consider this a good thing, because you excrete

toxins when you sweat.----------Jackie

Thanks, everyone and best wishes in recovering health and happiness!

" )

October 11, 2008

----------Have you done any chelation at all previous to this?

No, no previous chelation prior to ALA.

----So your first round at this dose went fine?

I don't really recall any particular problems last time. The one thing

that stands out for me is that when I do the ALA, it gives me the

euphoric feeling, almost feeling like I used to before many of my health

problems. I recall in one of Cutler's posts that he experienced this as

well.

It would be interesting to know if this is a positive sign that

chelation is helping to move things out, and particularly that the

euphoric feelings with seemingly much increased energy and mental

concentration, etc. is a sign that it is producing positive effects and

I am heavy metal toxic.

-------- You are within the suggested dosage range, its just that many

people can't start with a dose that high, so we do suggest you be

cautious and proceed slowly.

I will certainly be cautious and note my reactions. So far, the

reactions are what I described above, and I seem to be experiencing what

feels like adrenal/thyroid activation. In other words, I'm sweating,

but not really moving or exercising vigorously. My face is perspiring a

little, and definitely my underarms. I have been feeling very euphoric

and charged with increased energy and mental clarity.

---- I would suggest doing many rounds at this dosage, before

increasing, because others have reported that symptoms have crepted up

on them after a number of rounds, or when increasing too fast.

I will not increase from this level, because the sweating and charged

energy is enough for me to handle right now, and I don't want to

increase this at this time. My next round I may reduce somewhat if

after this three day round I find it too much to tolerate. But, at this

time, it is making me feel good, and I'm not experiencing any negative

problems like pain, fatigue, headache, or anything else of that nature,

so I feel I am OK to proceed, but will continue to monitor closely.

----- But if your symptoms are manageable on and off rounds, then this

should be fine. I'm glad it's going well for you so far!---------Jackie

Thanks for your feedback and getting back to me so quickly.

> ---------I can't recall this off the top of my head, but may have

been discussed before. You could search archives using onibasu to see

what you find on it. But anyway, I would consider this a good thing,

because you excrete toxins when you sweat.----------Jackie

I'm assuming this is a sign of toxin release, or activation of my

adrenal/thyroid/homronal systems in some way, due to the increase in the

things I noted above. Would you agree that it appears that chelation is

the right path for me based on my reactions? Are my reactions typical?

Thanks for taking the time and getting back to me so quickly, Jackie.

Best wishes,

October 11, 2008

-Hi .. Just read this this morning in Amalgam Illness on

page 118 about sweating more may be due to ACTH regulation

from the pituitary, leading to hyperthyroidism and high

cortisol - I think this is what he says... Low sweaters are

from the opposite problem with ACTH..

This could fit in with your feelings of euphoria.. I would be

careful about feeling confident this is the best dose to take.

I too feel better on rounds. It took three rounds once for

me to see how hard it was on my body. Then I had a bad

crisis , so had to stop cheltion for over a month..

nanci

.. This goes along with the -- In frequent-dose-

chelation , " " wrote:

>

> ----------Have you done any chelation at all previous to this?

>

> No, no previous chelation prior to ALA.

>

> ----So your first round at this dose went fine?

>

> I don't really recall any particular problems last time. The one

thing

> that stands out for me is that when I do the ALA, it gives me the

> euphoric feeling, almost feeling like I used to before many of my

health

> problems. I recall in one of Cutler's posts that he experienced

this as

> well.

>

> It would be interesting to know if this is a positive sign that

> chelation is helping to move things out, and particularly that the

> euphoric feelings with seemingly much increased energy and mental

> concentration, etc. is a sign that it is producing positive effects

and

> I am heavy metal toxic.

>

> -------- You are within the suggested dosage range, its just that

many

> people can't start with a dose that high, so we do suggest you be

> cautious and proceed slowly.

>

> I will certainly be cautious and note my reactions. So far, the

> reactions are what I described above, and I seem to be experiencing

what

> feels like adrenal/thyroid activation. In other words, I'm

sweating,

> but not really moving or exercising vigorously. My face is

perspiring a

> little, and definitely my underarms. I have been feeling very

euphoric

> and charged with increased energy and mental clarity.

>

> ---- I would suggest doing many rounds at this dosage, before

> increasing, because others have reported that symptoms have crepted

up

> on them after a number of rounds, or when increasing too fast.

>

> I will not increase from this level, because the sweating and

charged

> energy is enough for me to handle right now, and I don't want to

> increase this at this time. My next round I may reduce somewhat if

> after this three day round I find it too much to tolerate. But, at

this

> time, it is making me feel good, and I'm not experiencing any

negative

> problems like pain, fatigue, headache, or anything else of that

nature,

> so I feel I am OK to proceed, but will continue to monitor closely.

>

> ----- But if your symptoms are manageable on and off rounds, then

this

> should be fine. I'm glad it's going well for you so far!---------

Jackie

>

> Thanks for your feedback and getting back to me so quickly.

>

> > ---------I can't recall this off the top of my head, but may

have

> been discussed before. You could search archives using onibasu to

see

> what you find on it. But anyway, I would consider this a good

thing,

> because you excrete toxins when you sweat.----------Jackie

>

> I'm assuming this is a sign of toxin release, or activation of my

> adrenal/thyroid/homronal systems in some way, due to the increase

in the

> things I noted above. Would you agree that it appears that

chelation is

> the right path for me based on my reactions? Are my reactions

typical?

>

> Thanks for taking the time and getting back to me so quickly,

Jackie.

> Best wishes,

>

October 11, 2008

In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

----------Have you done any chelation at all previous to this?

No, no previous chelation prior to ALA.

----So your first round at this dose went fine?

I don't really recall any particular problems last time. The one thing

that stands out for me is that when I do the ALA, it gives me the

euphoric feeling, almost feeling like I used to before many of my health

problems. I recall in one of Cutler's posts that he experienced this as

well.

It would be interesting to know if this is a positive sign that

chelation is helping to move things out, and particularly that the

euphoric feelings with seemingly much increased energy and mental

concentration, etc. is a sign that it is producing positive effects and

I am heavy metal toxic.

------------Yes, I take this as a sign of being heavy metal toxic, when you

feel much better when taking chelators. I always felt much better and felt

almost normal when doing rounds of DMSA when I first started. So yes, I see

this as a positive sign for you.----------Jackie

-------- You are within the suggested dosage range, its just that many

people can't start with a dose that high, so we do suggest you be

cautious and proceed slowly.

I will certainly be cautious and note my reactions. So far, the

reactions are what I described above, and I seem to be experiencing what

feels like adrenal/thyroid activation. In other words, I'm sweating,

but not really moving or exercising vigorously. My face is perspiring a

little, and definitely my underarms. I have been feeling very euphoric

and charged with increased energy and mental clarity.

----------This does sound exciting for you, but the thing that catches my eye

is adrenal/thyroid activation. This may be a good thing, but do realize that

people have found that chelation is stress on the adrenals, and probably the

thyroid too, so just be aware and on the lookout for signs of stress on these

glands. Otherwise, enjoy the good feeling!-----------Jackie