Multi Vitamin - Multimineral Supplementation for Detox

[Guest guest]

I take a multivitamin-multimineral supplement for chelation. It does

contain high doses of minerals, trace elements and vitamins and other

stuff:

I take this instead of andy's recommended supplements.

The ingredient list is here:

https://www.mytruehope.net/store/_documents/emp.pdf

I take 4 servings of this every day.(ON and OFF - on ON days i also

add extra C and magnesium, E, and Betacarotene) In addition i take

omega 3 fatty acids and that's all what i supplement.

It does also contain some methionine and a tiny dose of nickel which

seems to accetable(I checked with andy)

I think all the stuff in there is ok many of the things are also

recommended by andy.

Just wanted to check with this group to make sure i don't deviate

from the protocol and my supplementation does not affect my chelation

outcome in any negative way.

I know i could probably use just the supps that andy recommeds but i

have to admit taking this all-in-one supp is much easier for me as

have problems staying organised, forgetting supplements, etc.

Feedback would be appreciated.

Thank you.

PS: I think it is not allowed to advertise any products here. The

link i posted goes to a PDF file on the manufactures website. The PDF

file is much easier to read than copying the text and posting it

here. I hope in that case it is accetable to include a link to a

supplemention company. Thanks for understanding.

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation mkarty2007 wrote:

I take a multivitamin-multimineral supplement for chelation. It does

contain high doses of minerals, trace elements and vitamins and other

stuff:

I take this instead of andy's recommended supplements.

The ingredient list is here:

https://www.mytruehope.net/store/_documents/emp.pdf

I take 4 servings of this every day.

---------Do you take all 4 capsules at once, or do you spread them out? Some

things like B's and C are recommended to take 3-4X/day. And some of us need

much higher doses of some of these things, but it does look like a decent multi

to cover a number of bases. It does contain copper and iron, which some people

need to stay away from, but if you aren't high in them, then this is probably

fine. It would depend on your individual situation and symptoms, whether you

need more of certain things.--------Jackie

(ON and OFF - on ON days i also

add extra C and magnesium, E, and Betacarotene) In addition i take

omega 3 fatty acids and that's all what i supplement.

----------You are supposed to take your supps all the time, on ON and OFF

days. Some do find they need more when chelating, but I would make sure I got

enough of at least the basics everyday. Andy's top four is Vit C, E, zinc, and

magnesium. The amount of these in your multi are way below what is recommended,

so I would definitely be taking more of each of those everyday. Especially Vit

C, the antioxidants are really important. And many of us take higher doses of

alot of the other things listed, but this depends on the individual needs and

what your symptoms are. So I guess the big question is, how do you feel with

what you're taking now?---------Jackie

It does also contain some methionine and a tiny dose of nickel which

seems to accetable(I checked with andy)

I think all the stuff in there is ok many of the things are also

recommended by andy.

Just wanted to check with this group to make sure i don't deviate

from the protocol and my supplementation does not affect my chelation

outcome in any negative way.

----------I can't remember how many rounds you have done and at what doses,

etc? How have those rounds gone? How do you feel on and off round? If you are

doing ok, then maybe this is sufficieint. If you are having bothersome

symptoms, then working on what supplements and/or amounts might help, might be

helpful. My other concern is that you might be ok now, but as chelation

progresses, you may become more deficient in some of these areas. Your body

needs extra nutrients to do the repairing that is needed, once the mercury is

moved out. And chelation causes oxidative stress, so the antioxidants are

*really* important.

I guess having more info, like your hair test or any testing you've had done,

what your symptoms are, and how you do on rounds of chelation, would help alot,

to comment any more.---------Jackie

I know i could probably use just the supps that andy recommeds but i

have to admit taking this all-in-one supp is much easier for me as

have problems staying organised, forgetting supplements, etc.

----------I agree that if you are taking this multi everyday, at least you are

getting something and covering alot of bases, although the amounts might not be

high enough. But this should be better than not taking anything. And the big

question is, how do you feel when this is all you take?----------Jackie

-----------I personally need alot more than what is in there, but we are all

different and may have different needs. If you are asking because you feel you

need more, then I would print out the list, and compare the amounts to what Andy

recommends, and add some extra of the really important ones.-------Jackie

Feedback would be appreciated.

Thank you.

PS: I think it is not allowed to advertise any products here. The

link i posted goes to a PDF file on the manufactures website. The PDF

file is much easier to read than copying the text and posting it

here. I hope in that case it is accetable to include a link to a

supplemention company. Thanks for understanding.

-----------It's ok to post a link as in this situation, when you are just

showing us the ingredient list. If you were a seller of the product and trying

to push it on us, then that would be different ------------Jackie

[Guest guest]

I was under the assumption that taking any kind of mineral supplement

during the days you are chelating is ill-advised. This is because the

DMSA binds to the minerals and pulls them out of the body--ignoring the

heavy metals. I am currently under the care of an MD who is detoxing me

and my instructions explicitly tell me to stay away from minerals on my

5 days on and then take a good mineral supp on my 2 days off. Also, am I

right that you guys believe DMSA does not chelate mercury out of the

brain or just that DMPS does not? There is an article here that mentions

studies about DMSA being an effective brain chelator:

http://www.dmsa-chelation.info/

Thanks in advance!

[Guest guest]

>

> I was under the assumption that taking any kind of mineral

supplement

> during the days you are chelating is ill-advised. This is because

the

> DMSA binds to the minerals and pulls them out of the body--ignoring

the

> heavy metals.

This is a false assumption. DMSA binds to the heavy metals and

ignores the smaller metals. It is EDTA that chelates out the

essential minerals (that seems to be the source of the confusion)

I am currently under the care of an MD who is detoxing me

> and my instructions explicitly tell me to stay away from minerals

on my

> 5 days on and then take a good mineral supp on my 2 days off.

What else is this MD telling you to do? He has it wrong about the

minerals.

Also, am I

> right that you guys believe DMSA does not chelate mercury out of the

> brain or just that DMPS does not?

DMSA and DMPS both do not cross the BBB and thus do not chelate

mercury out of the brain.

There is an article here that mentions

> studies about DMSA being an effective brain chelator:

> http://www.dmsa-chelation.info/

>

You could use onibasu.com to search for discussion about some of the

articles that are used to support false beliefs. Or look in the file

of Andy's posts in the links section.

J

> Thanks in advance!

>

[Guest guest]

It is very important to take minerals while chelating, and even if it

does chelate some minerals the DMSA or DMPS will be much more

attracted to mercury in your blood than any other minerals. You need

minerals such as zinc and magnesium to be used in the many enzymes

that your body needs to assist the detox process.

Also, DMSA has been shown not to have a significant effect on mineral

status, but DMPS does bind to some minerals but its still important to

take them with the chelator.

I'm doing more research about it crossing the blood brain

barrier...apparently some places think it can which was the opposite

of what Andy says.

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>

> I was under the assumption that taking any kind of mineral supplement

> during the days you are chelating is ill-advised. This is because the

> DMSA binds to the minerals and pulls them out of the body--ignoring the

> heavy metals. I am currently under the care of an MD who is detoxing me

> and my instructions explicitly tell me to stay away from minerals on my

> 5 days on and then take a good mineral supp on my 2 days off. Also, am I

> right that you guys believe DMSA does not chelate mercury out of the

> brain or just that DMPS does not? There is an article here that mentions

> studies about DMSA being an effective brain chelator:

> http://www.dmsa-chelation.info/

>

> Thanks in advance!

>

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation hopecross77 wrote:

I was under the assumption that taking any kind of mineral supplement

during the days you are chelating is ill-advised. This is because the

DMSA binds to the minerals and pulls them out of the body--ignoring the

heavy metals.

----------Cutler does not agree with this, and says to take your minerals (and

all supplements) all the time. He says that your body may " use up " more

minerals during the chelation process, and hence the need for more and to take

them all the time. And you need large amounts for all the repairing your body

needs to do also. You can search archives for posts about this.-------Jackie

I am currently under the care of an MD who is detoxing me

and my instructions explicitly tell me to stay away from minerals on my

5 days on and then take a good mineral supp on my 2 days off.

----------May I ask what chelator, dosage, and timing you are taking? This

does not sound like Cutler's protocol, and since this is the frequent dose

group, that is what we follow here exclusively. Cutler says to take as many

days off as on, and the timing of the dosages based on the half life is the most

important.-------Jackie

Also, am I

right that you guys believe DMSA does not chelate mercury out of the

brain or just that DMPS does not? There is an article here that mentions

studies about DMSA being an effective brain chelator:

http://www.dmsa-chelation.info/

---------If you search archives, Andy has commented on all of this stuff in

the past. I will give you some links, but you could probably find more by

searching onibasu. Andy says ALA crosses the BBB, but DMSA and DMPS do not to

any clinically significant extent.---------Jackie

Click on Visit Your Group and then Links

Links > Andy's posts, new folder, 2008 > Discussion of research papers

Links to many posts by Andy

http://onibasu.com/wiki/Autism_Mercury

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/ANDY_INDEX.html

Thanks in advance!