Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 In frequent-dose-chelation Barb wrote: My son and I have been chelating for 10 rounds, the last 8 on ALA and DMSA at 3-hour intervals, dropping down to 6 mg. doses because of fatigue and depression on 12 mg. doses. Before we began this, he had been receiving per his DAN doctor a strep-killing protocol (very effective) that involves a two-step biofilm attack, giving EDTA 625 mg. and an enzyme prior to taking anti-parasite oils. This was given once a day, 2 or 3 days a week, depending on his reaction. Sometimes he was feverish and lethargic, with a 'hot' stomach, but we saw improved initiative and cognition. After having started 's protocol, and reading his books, I realized that EDTA has some mercury-moving properties. ----------EDTA is not recommended for mercury toxic people, and I am not familiar with this strep-killing protocol,and really don't understand what role EDTA would play in this anyway. Have you asked about this on the Autism-Mercury group, maybe some other parents using a DAN doctor might be familiar with this?------Jackie We haven't done any more with the EDTA but I'm wondering if it would be possible to start the strep treatment again if it was done in the middle of a standard Cutler protocol round? ----------Do you mean take the EDTA and whatever else during a round with DMSA/ALA? No, I would not do this. You should not use EDTA at all, if your child is mercury toxic, and I'm sure you shouldn't use it in conjunction with DMSA/ALA. If you mean taking the other things in the strep treatment, that's probably ok, but I would like to see exactly what they are. And have you asked this question on A-M? Andy might be more likely to see it over there, it would be nice to hear his input on this.-------Jackie Would the EDTA release more mercury than the ALA and DSMA could keep in suspension during the round? The day or two after a round is over, we see more initiative and energy, and overall I feel it is already producing some benefits. ----------If you are seeing improvements from rounds of DMSA/ALA on the Cutler protocol, then I would stick with that, as we know it is safe and effective.--------Jackie We see the doctor again tomorrow and I am wondering what I should tell her about this. She is very pro-chelation, and was encouraging me to start it years ago, but didn't seem to understand about the issue of EDTA mobilizing mercury. ----------Unfortunately, very few doctors seem to understand proper, safe, and effective mercury chelation, and if she's using EDTA, she does not understand this at all. Now I'll talk like Andy, get a new doctor! Or at least, don't let her talk you into doing anything that is harmful, and stick with Andy's chelation protocol, as it is proven to work, and you are already seeing benefits from it.-------Jackie What do you all think? ---------Stick with what is known to work. EDTA is not recommended for mercury, and it is not part of the protocol we follow here, which is strictly Cutler's protocol here on FDC.----------Jackie Thanks, Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 It's not really that EDTA has mercury moving properties. EDTA does move lead. It can bind to mercury and make it more toxic without helping to eliminate it. EDTA is NOT recommended for anyone who is mercury toxic. Don't use it. J > > My son and I have been chelating for 10 rounds, the last 8 on ALA and > DMSA at 3-hour intervals, dropping down to 6 mg. doses because of > fatigue and depression on 12 mg. doses. > > Before we began this, he had been receiving per his DAN doctor a > strep-killing protocol (very effective) that involves a two-step > biofilm attack, giving EDTA 625 mg. and an enzyme prior to taking > anti-parasite oils. This was given once a day, 2 or 3 days a week, > depending on his reaction. Sometimes he was feverish and lethargic, > with a 'hot' stomach, but we saw improved initiative and cognition. > After having started 's protocol, and reading his books, I > realized that EDTA has some mercury-moving properties. > > We haven't done any more with the EDTA but I'm wondering if it would > be possible to start the strep treatment again if it was done in the > middle of a standard Cutler protocol round? Would the EDTA release > more mercury than the ALA and DSMA could keep in suspension during the > round? The day or two after a round is over, we see more initiative > and energy, and overall I feel it is already producing some benefits. > > We see the doctor again tomorrow and I am wondering what I should tell > her about this. She is very pro-chelation, and was encouraging me to > start it years ago, but didn't seem to understand about the issue of > EDTA mobilizing mercury. > > What do you all think? > > Thanks, > Barb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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