Re: Gluathione, NAC and Lipoic Acid before filling removal

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In frequent-dose-chelation penseur4444 wrote:

Hi all,

My doctor wants me to take a supplement that includes reduced

gluathione, NAC and lipoic acid in preparations of getting my fillings

removed. I know that Dr. Cutler would strongly disagree with this

protocol, but how do I convince my doctor that this is not a good

idea? I'm sorry, I'm just having trouble putting everything I've read

about these three supplements together to create a coherent argument

that I can then present to my doc.

---------I agree with , it's not your job to educate your doctor,

especially if you're paying out of pocket. If they are open-minded, then do as

said, and give them the flyer from the book to get their own book. Just

tell him you are following Cutler's protocol and you will not take those

supplements, and if he knew anything about chelation, that he would never

prescibe ALA before amalgam removal. And I don't remember if it was in this

group of AMC, but someone just recently posted that she followed the IAOMT

recommendation to take ALA before amalgam removal, and after two doses, her legs

went numb. That should be enough of a reason right there.

You need to remember that you are in charge and you are the one who has to

live with the consequences, so don't let the doctor bully you into doing

something that may be harmful. He's not going to come to your house and take

care of you when something goes wrong.--------Jackie

Thanks,

Liz

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,

Thanks for stating the case against using these supplements before

removal so succinctly. I highly doubt my doctor would take the time

to read Cutler's book (as it is, I get the most terse of replies from

him when I email him), but I may print out a couple of things for him

to read regarding these supplements. I know that the doctor I have is

not necessarily ideal or perfect, but I honestly feel lucky just to

have an intelligent integrative doctor who's open-minded and willing

to try the things I suggest. He's also the first to admit when he

doesn't know the exact answer to something, which I respect. I feel

like if he's willing to go along with Cutler's protocol, it doesn't

matter so much if he completely understands it, but maybe I'm being

naive in thinking that.

I guess the idea behind taking these supplements is that they're all

powerful antioxidants (although glutathione is basically nothing, b/c,

as you pointed out, it's immediately broken down into its component

parts after ingestion), and he wanted me to take a lot of antioxidants

in preparation for the removal and chelation. I'll just explain to

him that I won't take those supplements, but I'll continue taking

vitamin C and vitamin E, both powerful antioxidants.

If nothing else, I already knew that the NAC and alpha lipoic acid are

harmful to me since I was taking a product that contains both of

these, which made me feel awful (this was before I had any idea about

their relation to mercury).

I'm not sure if this is a question that you could answer for me, but I

was looking at the " suggested supplements " file, and I'm already

taking a number of the things suggested, but I'm wondering if there

are any of these that you would say are pretty vital to take in

preparation for amalgam removal/chelation?

Thanks so much for your time,

Liz

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > My doctor wants me to take a supplement that includes reduced

> > gluathione, NAC and lipoic acid in preparations of getting my fillings

> > removed. I know that Dr. Cutler would strongly disagree with this

> > protocol, but how do I convince my doctor that this is not a good

> > idea?

>

>

>

> It's not your job to PAY your doctor AND educate him too! You could

> copy the order form from the back of Andy's AI book and let him decide

> whether or not he wants to educate himself.

>

> A brief answer would be that the glutathione will get digested, the

> NAC could make you sick if you are one of the ones who has difficulty

> tolerating sulfur foods, and the most important point is that the

> infrequent lipoic acid WILL force mercury INTO your brain and organs,

> leading to cell death, great harm, and possibly irreversible damage.

> Sometimes doctors don't like it when patients put it as bluntly as

> that, so it is easier just to give him the form from Andy's book.

>

> J

>

>

>

> I'm sorry, I'm just having trouble putting everything I've read

> > about these three supplements together to create a coherent argument

> > that I can then present to my doc.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Liz

> >

>

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>

> I'm not sure if this is a question that you could answer for me, but I

> was looking at the " suggested supplements " file, and I'm already

> taking a number of the things suggested, but I'm wondering if there

> are any of these that you would say are pretty vital to take in

> preparation for amalgam removal/chelation?

>

>

I copied the file below. Andy says that the 4 top ones are zinc,

magnesium, vit C and vit E. So those are the first to include. After

that, I would include B vitamins, milk thistle, cod liver or fish oil

instead of the flax oil (or both), vit A instead of carotenes, and

then the others.

*****

Buffered vitamin C 1/2 to 2 grams 4 times a day

B complex equivalent to " b25 " or " b50 " 4 times a day

Zinc 50-100 mg

Magnesium 500-1000 mg in divided doses

Milk thistle extract 4 times a day preferably w/meals

Vitamin E 1000-3000 IU daily

Mixed carotenes, lycopene, etc.

flax 1 tbsp - 15-50g

borage oil 1-4grams

Selenium 200 mcg as selenomethionine.

Chromium picolinate 200 mcg with every meal.

Molybdenum about 1000 mcg a day.

CoQ10 100-400mg

Hydergine 10-20mg/day

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I agree with , and would just add that selenium is good too, especially

during amalgam removal, because it is supposed to bind to mercury and make in

inert. It doesn't chelate it, but makes it less harmful. And lots of

antioxidants during this time also. Take as much Vit C as you can tolerate.

I took activated charcoal right before and right after each removal session.

And then I took 1 gram of Vit C every hour (or about) afterwards too. A Vit C

IV wasn't available to me.---------Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation wrote:

>

> I'm not sure if this is a question that you could answer for me, but I

> was looking at the " suggested supplements " file, and I'm already

> taking a number of the things suggested, but I'm wondering if there

> are any of these that you would say are pretty vital to take in

> preparation for amalgam removal/chelation?

>

>

I copied the file below. Andy says that the 4 top ones are zinc,

magnesium, vit C and vit E. So those are the first to include. After

that, I would include B vitamins, milk thistle, cod liver or fish oil

instead of the flax oil (or both), vit A instead of carotenes, and

then the others.

*****

Buffered vitamin C 1/2 to 2 grams 4 times a day

B complex equivalent to " b25 " or " b50 " 4 times a day

Zinc 50-100 mg

Magnesium 500-1000 mg in divided doses

Milk thistle extract 4 times a day preferably w/meals

Vitamin E 1000-3000 IU daily

Mixed carotenes, lycopene, etc.

flax 1 tbsp - 15-50g

borage oil 1-4grams

Selenium 200 mcg as selenomethionine.

Chromium picolinate 200 mcg with every meal.

Molybdenum about 1000 mcg a day.

CoQ10 100-400mg

Hydergine 10-20mg/day