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Bad night last night :( knew it was all going far too smoothly !! Nia was

feeding well all day and we (naiively) thought this would mean a good nights

sleep!!

Gethyn and I had a dip in the Water-Birthing Pool with Mari and Nia (Nia

slept thru the excitement). Got into bed at 12 all nice, relaxed and tired

and wallop here we go ... feed/cry/feed/cry/empty breasts/suck ...

agggggggggh ...

Just off to the BF list to pose this question but thought I'd ask here too -

anyone know how long it takes for what you've eaten to 'come thru' in

breast-milk? Just wondering if it was my lunch at that posh cafe that upset

her!! Asparagus and goats cheese pizza with rocket followed by a chocolate

bombe dessert :) or the two glasses of 4% sparkly that I drank in the pool

later??

Jenni x

Jenni & Gethyn

Mami & Dadi to:

17yrs - 6lbs - Hospital Birth

Mari 3yrs - 9lb 10oz - Home Birth

Nia 13/09/01 - 10lb 8oz - Home Water Birth

" If you don't know your options - you don't have any "

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- Gethyn and I had a dip in the Water-Birthing Pool with Mari and Nia

(Nia

> slept thru the excitement). Got into bed at 12 all nice, relaxed

and tired

> and wallop here we go ... feed/cry/feed/cry/empty breasts/suck ...

> agggggggggh ...

Jenni: welcome to the real world of new babies !! :) Tavya used to

say that she wished she had six breasts as that was what Rafi seemed

to need per feed. No such thing as " empty " breasts by the way, just

keep feeding her and they'll fill right up again.

As to your question; it was recently posed on the bfc list and the

answer came back " it depends. " Like, it depends on what you eat with

it, how quickly the food gets digested etc. Personally I think

mother's food upsetting baby in bm is overrated. It's probably just

your new daughter being...your new daughter! :)

Ruthie (bfc)

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<<<No such thing as " empty " breasts by the way, just

keep feeding her and they'll fill right up again.>>>>

True but BOY they do get sore when they are feeding on them and you are making

as they are feeding.. AUCH (still remember that feeling well lol)

Lonnie Phoebe & Eloisa's mama

& expecting a Christmas delivery...

My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what you

start.

So far today, I have finished 2 bags of chips and a Chocolate cake.

I feel better already.

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on 22/09/01 10:54 PM, ruthie@... at ruthie@... wrote:

> No such thing as " empty " breasts by the way, just

> keep feeding her and they'll fill right up again.

But they felt empty and she was sucking and not swallowing aand getting

upset? when you say fill right up again - I know the theory but how long

does it take? surely not immediately? by the morning they did feel fuller

but definately not at the time.

Jenni (of many questions tonite!)

Jenni & Gethyn

Mami & Dadi to:

17yrs - 6lbs - Hospital Birth

Mari 3yrs - 9lb 10oz - Home Birth

Nia 13/09/01 - 10lb 8oz - Home Water Birth

" If you don't know your options - you don't have any "

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> <<<No such thing as " empty " breasts by the way, just

> keep feeding her and they'll fill right up again.>>>>

>

> True but BOY they do get sore when they are feeding on them and you

are making as they are feeding.. AUCH (still remember that feeling

well lol)

LOL, now we're back to Lansinoh! Actually I coined the phrase " new

use soreness " after having witnessed Tavya and Rafi feeding with a

100% perfect latch from day 1 and *still getting sore, yes even with

Lansinoh, but the key difference from " poor latch soreness " was, there

was no visible damage trauma to the nipple and things improved daily.

Ruthie

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> > No such thing as " empty " breasts by the way, just

> > keep feeding her and they'll fill right up again.

>

> But they felt empty and she was sucking and not swallowing aand

getting

> upset? when you say fill right up again - I know the theory but how

long

> does it take? surely not immediately? by the morning they did feel

fuller

> but definately not at the time.

>

> Jenni (of many questions tonite!)

Correct, not at the time but you should *definitely* notice the

difference within 24 hrs. Meanwhile if she is upset and frustrated

get someone to walk around with her, or take her for a walk/drive

outside...I recall doing that with Rafi (up the M1 to Scratchwood

Services and back!) at midnight when I returned from a wedding to find

a tearful Tavya and a screaming baby. By the time we came back he had

calmed down and she had also calmed down, and was ready to feed him in

bed and they both fell fast asleep.

Ruthie

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Actually Ruthie with both of my girls I found that when they had growth spurts

and we ended up with lots of feeding (where you have that empty feeling and they

are still feeding type thing) I would end up with a very sore feeling after.

Nothing like the sore feeling if they had latched wrongly (THAT hurts lol) more

like sore inside your tissue.. So in my case not new use soreness ;o) (lovely

phrase btw ;o) )

I have btw been very lucky with both of the girls as both latched with no

problems and I have never had any damage to my nipples etc some of my friends

had dreadful trouble... (only " problem " have had both times is engorgement as

my body seems to think I have triplets each time lol - but homeopathy can deal

with that ;o) )

Lonnie Phoebe & Eloisa's mama

& expecting a Christmas delivery...

My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what you

start.

So far today, I have finished 2 bags of chips and a Chocolate cake.

I feel better already.

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Thanks Ruthie :)

> calmed down and she had also calmed down, and was ready to feed him in

> bed and they both fell fast asleep.

Gethyn is a brilliant support, when I was reduced to tears last night he

simply took her away whilst telling me not to worry and to get some sleep.

It was only this afternoon that I found out that Mari had been up during the

night too so he'd had to juggle both of them so I really shouldn't complain

when he's being a 'baby' with his cold !!

Jenni

Jenni & Gethyn

Mami & Dadi to:

17yrs - 6lbs - Hospital Birth

Mari 3yrs - 9lb 10oz - Home Birth

Nia 13/09/01 - 10lb 8oz - Home Water Birth

" If you don't know your options - you don't have any "

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> Actually Ruthie with both of my girls I found that when they had

growth spurts and we ended up with lots of feeding (where you have

that empty feeling and they are still feeding type thing) I would end

up with a very sore feeling after. Nothing like the sore feeling if

they had latched wrongly (THAT hurts lol) more like sore inside your

tissue.. So in my case not new use soreness ;o) (lovely phrase btw

;o) )

Oh yes I know that soreness: the " squeezed out lemon " soreness :))

Ruthie

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> Thanks Ruthie :)

>

> > calmed down and she had also calmed down, and was ready to feed

him in

> > bed and they both fell fast asleep.

>

> Gethyn is a brilliant support, when I was reduced to tears last

night he

> simply took her away whilst telling me not to worry and to get some

sleep.

> It was only this afternoon that I found out that Mari had been up

during the

> night too so he'd had to juggle both of them so I really shouldn't

complain

> when he's being a 'baby' with his cold !!

>

> Jenni

No indeed, he sounds wonderful. Lucky you! :)

Ruthie

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> >

> > True but BOY they do get sore when they are feeding on them and

you

> are making as they are feeding.. AUCH (still remember that feeling

> well lol)

>

> LOL, now we're back to Lansinoh! Actually I coined the phrase " new

> use soreness " after having witnessed Tavya and Rafi feeding with a

> 100% perfect latch from day 1 and *still getting sore,

I had this with both mine so far... took a while with G despite her

latched on just fine, took a day or two to go with Susy, but then I

had only stopped BF Georgi a few

months before..!

A

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on 23/09/01 06:43 AM, Sue Saxey at Sue.Saxey@... wrote:

> But the time span is right for the bubbly and

> maybe a bit long for lunch. Only way to find out will be to have some more

> :-)) Some babies really like alcohol, others hate it.

Oh dear, could be in for an evening of it then - just drank some 12%

champagne this time !! Not usually this decadent just lots of welcoming Nia

to the World happening at the moment ;) Will be sad but interesting to see

if she gets upset again though :(

Jenni

Jenni & Gethyn

Mami & Dadi to:

17yrs - 6lbs - Hospital Birth

Mari 3yrs - 9lb 10oz - Home Birth

Nia 13/09/01 - 10lb 8oz - Home Water Birth

" If you don't know your options - you don't have any "

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