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> I feel it important to be aware of this risk. But also, to put the

> information out there and ask your midwife if she knows how to deal

> with such a situation beforehand.

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Thanks for sharing this, , and, yes, it is probably among the many

questions that moms-to-be should ask. It sounds pretty scary. I'm glad

that your outcome was a live baby at least, and there is never any good in

second-guessing what health care professionals should have done. The cord

and the lack of heartbeat may well have encouraged them to use the more

aggressive intervention of the forceps in your case.

Clearly people should just avoid giving birth altogether! Very unsafe

activity!

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I am an addict to the tv show Maternity Ward which shows real birth stories.

Shoulder dystocia comes up occasionally and every doctor says it is the

scariest complication. The most effective thing I saw was some nurse who

ran up to the laboring mom (bypassing the flustered doctor) and gave her a

big " HiYa! " on the stomach and that baby popped right out! : )

Had to share,

(SAHM in GA)

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n 33, mo, no formal dx

Phoebe, 11 wks

Homebirth revisited

> I checked with Jacquie before posting this.

>

> I was disturbed from the homebirth discussion a few months back

> (remember I was the one who was so dead set against the homebirth

> because of the problems I experienced during labor with my

> daughter). Well. I've done some research.

>

> In the very complication that I had ..shoulder dystocia, I found this

> article.

> http://www.storknet.com/cubbies/homebirth/homebirthsafety.htm

>

> I must say, I'm quite displeased. First, because nobody ever tried

> to get me to change positions...they went immediately for the

> forceps..who knows, with other interventions maybe she could have

> been repositioned with no harm to her shoulder as it turned out. Of

> course, I will never know. She also had the cord wrapped around her

> neck and no heartbeat so they may not have had time to reposition

> me. And who's to say that she wouldn't have died had I had her at

> home.

>

>

> I Googled homebirth shoulder dystocia. Turns out, this is a very

> real and serious danger in any birth hospital or home. There is

> fetal mortality in hospital setting as well, and no c-section will

> help it. True shoulder dystocia is very rare.

>

> Here is another good article on it, telling a midwife's side of

> shoulder dystocia.

> http://www.havingababytoday.com/enews/enews0416.asp?q=herb*

>

> The point of this post is...I totally discouraged homebirth based

> upon my experience. There is no way to ever tell if someone will

> have a complication such as mine, and considering that it IS so rare,

> I must say I was wrong in saying it was safer to have a baby in a

> hospital especially considering all of the other factors involved.

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> I feel it important to be aware of this risk. But also, to put the

> information out there and ask your midwife if she knows how to deal

> with such a situation beforehand.

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I SECOND THAT!!

who will never ever ever again give birth!

or I'm gonna castrate a doc.

> >

> > I feel it important to be aware of this risk. But also, to put

the

> > information out there and ask your midwife if she knows how to

deal

> > with such a situation beforehand.

> >

> >

> Thanks for sharing this, , and, yes, it is probably among the

many

> questions that moms-to-be should ask. It sounds pretty scary. I'm

glad

> that your outcome was a live baby at least, and there is never any

good in

> second-guessing what health care professionals should have done.

The cord

> and the lack of heartbeat may well have encouraged them to use the

more

> aggressive intervention of the forceps in your case.

>

> Clearly people should just avoid giving birth altogether! Very

unsafe

> activity!

>

> Salli

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>>>Clearly people should just avoid giving birth altogether! Very unsafe

activity!<<<< bwahhhhhh Maybe one should even avoid sex to be on the safe side

LOL

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>

> I feel it important to be aware of this risk. But also, to put the

> information out there and ask your midwife if she knows how to deal

> with such a situation beforehand.

>

>

Thanks for sharing this, , and, yes, it is probably among the many

questions that moms-to-be should ask. It sounds pretty scary. I'm glad

that your outcome was a live baby at least, and there is never any good in

second-guessing what health care professionals should have done. The cord

and the lack of heartbeat may well have encouraged them to use the more

aggressive intervention of the forceps in your case.

Clearly people should just avoid giving birth altogether! Very unsafe

activity!

Salli

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Are you crazy women?! That's the only form of entertainment I have left. ;) I'll

take the chance. :P

Jacquie H

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>

> I feel it important to be aware of this risk. But also, to put the

> information out there and ask your midwife if she knows how to deal

> with such a situation beforehand.

>

>

Thanks for sharing this, , and, yes, it is probably among the many

questions that moms-to-be should ask. It sounds pretty scary. I'm glad

that your outcome was a live baby at least, and there is never any good in

second-guessing what health care professionals should have done. The cord

and the lack of heartbeat may well have encouraged them to use the more

aggressive intervention of the forceps in your case.

Clearly people should just avoid giving birth altogether! Very unsafe

activity!

Salli

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I'll third that and include pregnancy along with it. Totally unsafe

practice. ;-)

Though ... the events leading up to that aren't too bad :-P

Debbie with twins

- Jordan (ASD) 2.5yo

- (NT) 2.5yo

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I SECOND THAT!!

who will never ever ever again give birth!

or I'm gonna castrate a doc

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> bwahhhhhh Maybe one should even avoid sex to be on the safe side LOL <

that's my plan!

~~~ Imagine all the people, living life in peace - Lennon ~~~

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gina, 31, ny

single mom to -

kailey, 8, autism, hyperlexia, depression, anxiety, OCD, DSI

trevor, 3, multiple developmental delays, no " official " dx yet

parker jade, due 7-25-03 :-D

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I just have to say how much I respect you for what you've said here. Thank

you.

> I must say, I'm quite displeased. First, because nobody ever tried

> to get me to change positions...they went immediately for the

> forceps..who knows, with other interventions maybe she could have

> been repositioned with no harm to her shoulder as it turned out. Of

> course, I will never know. She also had the cord wrapped around her

> neck and no heartbeat so they may not have had time to reposition

> me. And who's to say that she wouldn't have died had I had her at

> home.

You're right about all of this. It would have been handled very differently

with a home birth. Your whole labor would have been different from the

beginning. What the outcome might have been, no one can say, of course.

Midwives are able to moniter fetal heart tones and they do have a variety of

ways to deal with shoulder dystocia, but mine at least do not carry forceps.

As you say, a Cesarean delivery is not a solution for true shoulder

dystocia, so that is not an advantage in hospital. But hospitals do have

tools and techniques that midwives at home births do not.

> I feel it important to be aware of this risk. But also, to put the

> information out there and ask your midwife if she knows how to deal

> with such a situation beforehand.

Absolutely correct.

-Sara.

Wife to Matt

SAHM to (3.5, autism)

Gabe (23 mos, speech delay) (born at home)

and 'Punkin' due anytime! (planning a home birth)

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