Re: OT colonoscopy question

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Beth,

I just had a colonoscopy a few months ago and everything went well. I did have to get my pulmonologist to give the okay because of the sedation. I did not have any negative reaction, but I'm pretty strong. I don't have any types of allergies and have always tolerated medications well either at the dentist, GYN, etc. I hope all goes well for you..

Adrienne

Subject: OT colonoscopy questionTo: Breathe-Support Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 10:40 PM

I saw my primary care doc today...just a regular app't. We talked about my recovery from the flu and discussed the tests she wants me to have next.

So we're going to schedule a bone scan and of course since I'm officially 50 now a colonoscopy. Now there's something to look forward to. lol What I've heard from everyone is that the prep is worse than the actual test, true?

I'm also wondering what kind of sedation anyone has had with a colonoscopy. I had a very bad reaction to pre-op sedation when I had my lung biopsy so I'm very leery. I will have an app't with the GI doc in advance to discuss the issue and my primary suggested we might want to have an anesthesiologist present. I'm just looking for anyone elses experiences with this. The sedation is what makes me nervous about this..not the prep, not the test....just the drugs and my possible reaction.

Beth

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Adrienne,

Thanks for the encouragement. The test itself doesn't really worry me at all. I'm not anticipating they'll find anything but if they do I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

As I said, the only thing that makes me anxious is the sedation and that because of my experience in 2006. Normal pre-op sedation dropped my sats like a rock and then they had difficulty stablizing them. They had an awful time trying to intubate me (who knew I have a narrow airway?) and I ended up on a ventilator. Ugh...it was no fun and I'm not looking to repeat this.

I have no allergies either and have never had any kind of difficulty with medication. It's a matter of normal sedation and then the anesthesia suppressing my respirations and since I have no reserve there's no room for error.

My sister told me after this experience that I should always be careful to explain to anyone who was going to sedate me in any way that I'm "sicker than I appear to be", meaning that just because I don't look ill don't take for granted that I can tolerate the same drugs that the average person can.

Beth

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To: Breathe-Support Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:06:16 PMSubject: Re: OT colonoscopy question

Beth,

I just had a colonoscopy a few months ago and everything went well. I did have to get my pulmonologist to give the okay because of the sedation. I did not have any negative reaction, but I'm pretty strong. I don't have any types of allergies and have always tolerated medications well either at the dentist, GYN, etc. I hope all goes well for you..

Adrienne

From: Beth <mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: OT colonoscopy questionTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Friday, July 17, 2009, 10:40 PM

I saw my primary care doc today...just a regular app't. We talked about my recovery from the flu and discussed the tests she wants me to have next.

So we're going to schedule a bone scan and of course since I'm officially 50 now a colonoscopy. Now there's something to look forward to. lol What I've heard from everyone is that the prep is worse than the actual test, true?

I'm also wondering what kind of sedation anyone has had with a colonoscopy. I had a very bad reaction to pre-op sedation when I had my lung biopsy so I'm very leery. I will have an app't with the GI doc in advance to discuss the issue and my primary suggested we might want to have an anesthesiologist present. I'm just looking for anyone elses experiences with this. The sedation is what makes me nervous about this..not the prep, not the test....just the drugs and my possible reaction.

Beth

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Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

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MB ... I am clear out...only takes a few minutes...but our lungs are not the same, obviously.

Oh yeah, the prep is the worst part. BE SURE...when you get your first 'reaction' to the prep....start using Vaseline in copious amounts to the 'strategic area'. It will save you from having a ring of fire! lol.

I've had so many colonoscopies now that I only dread the prep.

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

OT colonoscopy question

I saw my primary care doc today...just a regular app't. We talked about my recovery from the flu and discussed the tests she wants me to have next.

So we're going to schedule a bone scan and of course since I'm officially 50 now a colonoscopy. Now there's something to look forward to. lol What I've heard from everyone is that the prep is worse than the actual test, true?

I'm also wondering what kind of sedation anyone has had with a colonoscopy. I had a very bad reaction to pre-op sedation when I had my lung biopsy so I'm very leery. I will have an app't with the GI doc in advance to discuss the issue and my primary suggested we might want to have an anesthesiologist present. I'm just looking for anyone elses experiences with this. The sedation is what makes me nervous about this..not the prep, not the test....just the drugs and my possible reaction.

Beth

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Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

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Thanks Sher! That's very useful information.

Beth

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To: Breathe-Support Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:29:01 PMSubject: Re: OT colonoscopy question

MB ... I am clear out...only takes a few minutes...but our lungs are not the same, obviously.

Oh yeah, the prep is the worst part. BE SURE...when you get your first 'reaction' to the prep....start using Vaseline in copious amounts to the 'strategic area'. It will save you from having a ring of fire! lol.

I've had so many colonoscopies now that I only dread the prep.

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

OT colonoscopy question

I saw my primary care doc today...just a regular app't. We talked about my recovery from the flu and discussed the tests she wants me to have next.

So we're going to schedule a bone scan and of course since I'm officially 50 now a colonoscopy. Now there's something to look forward to. lol What I've heard from everyone is that the prep is worse than the actual test, true?

I'm also wondering what kind of sedation anyone has had with a colonoscopy. I had a very bad reaction to pre-op sedation when I had my lung biopsy so I'm very leery. I will have an app't with the GI doc in advance to discuss the issue and my primary suggested we might want to have an anesthesiologist present. I'm just looking for anyone elses experiences with this. The sedation is what makes me nervous about this..not the prep, not the test....just the drugs and my possible reaction.

Beth

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Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

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Beth,

I fully admit I'm weird, Ive had 3 colonoscopies in 5 years and except

for the happy shot (valium or xanax my guess) I've never been sedated

and in fact watched the last two on the monitor. Only one small moment

of slight pain and I found them facsinating. Much more fun than the

prep- now THAT is awful. LOL

Dyane Phoenix, IPF 02

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> I saw my primary care doc today...just a regular app't. We talked

about my�recovery from the flu and discussed�the

tests�she wants me to have next.

> So we're going to schedule a bone scan and of course�since I'm

officially 50 now�a colonoscopy. Now there's something to

look�forward�to.�lol What I've heard from everyone is

that the prep is worse than the actual test, true?

> I'm also wondering what kind of sedation anyone has had with a

colonoscopy.��I had a very bad reaction to pre-op sedation when I

had my lung biopsy so I'm very leery. I will�have an app't with the

GI doc in advance to discuss the issue and�my primary

suggested�we might want to have an anesthesiologist present. I'm

just looking for anyone elses experiences with this. The sedation

is�what makes me nervous about this..not the prep, not the

test....just the drugs and my possible reaction.

> �

> Beth

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MB, I haven't had one but didn't have any at all and said it wasn't bad or painful.. the trick is allin the KY... Love and Prayers, Peggy IPF 2004, FloridaWorry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up. I saw my primary care doc today...just a regular app't. We talked about my recovery from the flu and discussed the tests she wants me to have next. So we're going to schedule a bone scan and of course since I'm officially 50 now a colonoscopy. Now there's something to look forward to. lol What I've heard from everyone is that the prep is worse than the actual test, true? I'm also wondering what kind of sedation anyone has had with a colonoscopy. I had a very bad reaction to pre-op sedation when I had my lung biopsy so I'm very leery. I will have an app't with the GI doc in advance to discuss the issue and my primary suggested we might want to have an anesthesiologist present. I'm just looking for anyone elses experiences with this. The sedation is what makes me nervous about this..not the prep, not the test....just the drugs and my possible reaction. BethModeratorFibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

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Beth

The sedation for the Colonoscopy is " light " but that doesn't mean much

to me. As you know I also had sedation problems on my VATS and came out

too soon. I had one of my colonoscopies in which I wasn't as far under

as they thought as I could repeat back to them everything they did and

every word said. Now, the colonoscopy wasn't painful so didn't really

matter.

You definitely need to talk extensively about the sedation in advance. I

certainly will if ever sedated again for anything. The combination of

needing to maintain your saturation plus the previous experience are

issues to be discussed throughly.

In Europe they often do colonoscopies without sedation. Some doctors

will in the US. Deprivan is often used in the US and widely debated. In

fact, Aetna will not approve it for a colonoscopy. Versed and Demerol or

Fentanyl are often used. Now there is a push for Patient Controlled

Sedation which would be much like the morphine drips often used after

surgery. It's often done using Versed and remifentanil, an ultra short

acting opioid. So there are plenty of alternatives. But, its not widely

used.

The debate is that on one hand there are fewer complications without

sedation. On the other hand, there is some belief that the deeper the

sedation the more thorough the examination of any polyps.

So, guess all I'm saying is that there are many options and your doctors

should be able to assist you in finding whats appropriate for you.

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> I saw my primary care doc today...just a regular app't. We talked

about my recovery from the flu and discussed the tests she wants me to

have next.

> So we're going to schedule a bone scan and of course since I'm

officially 50 now a colonoscopy. Now there's something to look forward

to. lol What I've heard from everyone is that the prep is worse than the

actual test, true?

> I'm also wondering what kind of sedation anyone has had with a

colonoscopy. I had a very bad reaction to pre-op sedation when I had my

lung biopsy so I'm very leery. I will have an app't with the GI doc in

advance to discuss the issue and my primary suggested we might want to

have an anesthesiologist present. I'm just looking for anyone elses

experiences with this. The sedation is what makes me nervous about

this..not the prep, not the test....just the drugs and my possible

reaction.

>

> Beth

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> Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

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Adrienne

I never had problems either but that was before my VATS and the

anesthesia problems there. I know Beth had the perhaps even worse

with her experience. Until you've experienced a problem with anesthesia

you can't even imagine. Now, a colonoscopy would not be intolerable

without sedation and just with a sedative. However, i can assure you

that waking too early (even partially) during a VATS is beyond anything

words can describe. I remember not thinking I'd make it and wishing I'd

died already so I wasn't having to experience what I was.

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> From: Beth mbmurtha@...

> Subject: OT colonoscopy question

> To: Breathe-Support

> Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 10:40 PM

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> I saw my primary care doc today...just a regular app't. We talked

about my recovery from the flu and discussed the tests she wants me to

have next.

> So we're going to schedule a bone scan and of course since I'm

officially 50 now a colonoscopy. Now there's something to look forward

to. lol What I've heard from everyone is that the prep is worse than the

actual test, true?

> I'm also wondering what kind of sedation anyone has had with a

colonoscopy. I had a very bad reaction to pre-op sedation when I had my

lung biopsy so I'm very leery. I will have an app't with the GI doc in

advance to discuss the issue and my primary suggested we might want to

have an anesthesiologist present. I'm just looking for anyone elses

experiences with this. The sedation is what makes me nervous about

this..not the prep, not the test....just the drugs and my possible

reaction.

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> Beth

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> Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

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Beth,

I had a colonoscopy last fall, as part of my pre-transplant workup. It wasn't

my first...and yes, the prep is the worst part!!! Make sure you have a padded

toilet seat!!!

Anyway, this last one, because I am on oxygen 24/7, there was an

anesthesiologist present for the procedure. He also met with me before the

procedure. The only other thing different this time was that they pushed my

oxygen flow up from my normal 2L at rest, to either 3 or 4L, I can't remember

exactly, but it wasn't a big amount. No after effects...other than I was overly

chatty with the nurses as I was coming out of the sedation!!!! lol

Steve aka Knip IPF/UIP 9/07 VATS 12/07

57 Plymouth, NH

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> I saw my primary care doc today...just a regular app't. We talked about

my recovery from the flu and discussed the tests she wants me to have next.

> So we're going to schedule a bone scan and of course since I'm officially 50

now a colonoscopy. Now there's something to look forward to. lol What I've heard

from everyone is that the prep is worse than the actual test, true?

> I'm also wondering what kind of sedation anyone has had with a colonoscopy.  I

had a very bad reaction to pre-op sedation when I had my lung biopsy so I'm very

leery. I will have an app't with the GI doc in advance to discuss the issue

and my primary suggested we might want to have an anesthesiologist present. I'm

just looking for anyone elses experiences with this. The sedation is what makes

me nervous about this..not the prep, not the test....just the drugs and my

possible reaction.

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> Beth

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> Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

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Peggy .... this is for MB and may be a private joke but you know I'm gonna read it!

Pass this by one more time, 'You haven't had one but didn't have any at all................the trick is all in the KY???? Geeze, does MB have to go to Kentucky??? lol

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Re: OT colonoscopy question

MB, I haven't had one but didn't have any at all and said it wasn't bad or painful.. the trick is all

in the KY...

Love and Prayers, Peggy

IPF 2004, Florida

Worry looks around,

Sorry looks back,

Faith looks up.

I saw my primary care doc today...just a regular app't. We talked about my recovery from the flu and discussed the tests she wants me to have next.

So we're going to schedule a bone scan and of course since I'm officially 50 now a colonoscopy. Now there's something to look forward to. lol What I've heard from everyone is that the prep is worse than the actual test, true?

I'm also wondering what kind of sedation anyone has had with a colonoscopy. I had a very bad reaction to pre-op sedation when I had my lung biopsy so I'm very leery. I will have an app't with the GI doc in advance to discuss the issue and my primary suggested we might want to have an anesthesiologist present. I'm just looking for anyone elses experiences with this. The sedation is what makes me nervous about this..not the prep, not the test....just the drugs and my possible reaction.

Beth

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Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

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I think it was two 'scopes ago that I rec'd max sedation and still was not sedated enough...could not give me more. Went home, no scope, went back to hospital next day and was just put 'under' for a few minutes. Now when I have a scope they just put me 'under' again and do their-thang...

I'm thinking it's because I've been on pain meds for so many years and it takes more sedation for various procedures...

I'm sure wherever you go or who ever does the scoop you will have discussed your concerns and they will be watchful MB. All this stuff we have to experience is stressful for sure. Especially with an unpleasant memory about sedation.

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Re: OT colonoscopy question

BethThe sedation for the Colonoscopy is "light" but that doesn't mean muchto me. As you know I also had sedation problems on my VATS and came outtoo soon. I had one of my colonoscopies in which I wasn't as far underas they thought as I could repeat back to them everything they did andevery word said. Now, the colonoscopy wasn't painful so didn't reallymatter.You definitely need to talk extensively about the sedation in advance. Icertainly will if ever sedated again for anything. The combination ofneeding to maintain your saturation plus the previous experience areissues to be discussed throughly.In Europe they often do colonoscopies without sedation. Some doctorswill in the US. Deprivan is often used in the US and widely debated. Infact, Aetna will not approve it for a colonoscopy. Versed and Demerol orFentanyl are often used. Now there is a push for Patient ControlledSedation which would be much like the morphine drips often used aftersurgery. It's often done using Versed and remifentanil, an ultra shortacting opioid. So there are plenty of alternatives. But, its not widelyused.The debate is that on one hand there are fewer complications withoutsedation. On the other hand, there is some belief that the deeper thesedation the more thorough the examination of any polyps.So, guess all I'm saying is that there are many options and your doctorsshould be able to assist you in finding whats appropriate for you.>> I saw my primary care doc today...just a regular app't. We talkedabout my recovery from the flu and discussed the tests she wants me tohave next.> So we're going to schedule a bone scan and of course since I'mofficially 50 now a colonoscopy. Now there's something to look forwardto. lol What I've heard from everyone is that the prep is worse than theactual test, true?> I'm also wondering what kind of sedation anyone has had with acolonoscopy. I had a very bad reaction to pre-op sedation when I had mylung biopsy so I'm very leery. I will have an app't with the GI doc inadvance to discuss the issue and my primary suggested we might want tohave an anesthesiologist present. I'm just looking for anyone elsesexperiences with this. The sedation is what makes me nervous aboutthis..not the prep, not the test....just the drugs and my possiblereaction.>> Beth> Moderator> Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08>

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Beth,

Remember when I asked my questions about IV sedation of Dr. and I

forwarded them on to you? He said IV sedation is not general

anesthesia.

I had a colonoscopy with IV sedation in 2004, a month before I suffered

respiratory failure after having general anesthesia for the gall bladder

surgery. I had no problems with the IV sedation during the

colonoscopy. I had the colonoscopy a year after the lung biopsy when I

did suffer from the effects of the anesthesia.

Ask your pulmo dude about IV sedation. I am curious as to his answer.

Toodles!

Jane UIP/IPF 12/1998 Dalton, Georgia aka pianolady_musicgirl

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> I saw my primary care doc today...just a regular app't. We talked

about my recovery from the flu and discussed the tests she wants me to

have next.

> So we're going to schedule a bone scan and of course since I'm

officially 50 now a colonoscopy. Now there's something to look forward

to. lol What I've heard from everyone is that the prep is worse than the

actual test, true?

> I'm also wondering what kind of sedation anyone has had with a

colonoscopy. I had a very bad reaction to pre-op sedation when I had my

lung biopsy so I'm very leery. I will have an app't with the GI doc in

advance to discuss the issue and my primary suggested we might want to

have an anesthesiologist present. I'm just looking for anyone elses

experiences with this. The sedation is what makes me nervous about

this..not the prep, not the test....just the drugs and my possible

reaction.

>

> Beth

> Moderator

> Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

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I have IPF (05/08) and Emphysema (1980) and a valve in my Heart (02/06)frm IL

that doesn't close I'm 64. I've had two colonosopies with polops removed and a

biopsy for the IPF. The Dr used IV anesthesia all three times and I didn't have

any trouble at all. Tom Good Breathing to You All

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> > I saw my primary care doc today...just a regular app't. We talked

> about my recovery from the flu and discussed the tests she wants me to

> have next.

> > So we're going to schedule a bone scan and of course since I'm

> officially 50 now a colonoscopy. Now there's something to look forward

> to. lol What I've heard from everyone is that the prep is worse than the

> actual test, true?

> > I'm also wondering what kind of sedation anyone has had with a

> colonoscopy. I had a very bad reaction to pre-op sedation when I had my

> lung biopsy so I'm very leery. I will have an app't with the GI doc in

> advance to discuss the issue and my primary suggested we might want to

> have an anesthesiologist present. I'm just looking for anyone elses

> experiences with this. The sedation is what makes me nervous about

> this..not the prep, not the test....just the drugs and my possible

> reaction.

> >

> > Beth

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> > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

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