Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Jackie, I'm really sorry I missed your response last month and just saw it as i was reviewing posts. I have sent away for ZRT testing for testosterone, estrogen, and progesterone. So should get results in a few weeks. i have been tested for food allergies. I came up supposedly allergic to eggs and milk, but after cutting them out of my diet for over a month i noticed no difference in symptoms. I did a therapeutic trial of T3 and cortisol/isocort for a month - no difference in symptoms except rapid heart rate. my thyroid levels were always normal. my adrenal levels 4 years ago were elevated, but taking cortisol did not help. I did a blood test for total testosterone - it was 232 and that is below the normal range...so hopefully the saliva tests will give enough more data to indicate some sort of treatment. Thanks for your ideas - > > I have gone the adrenal / thyroid route before. No help > > ---------Do you mean you have had them tested, and they came back normal, or do you mean you have tried treating them, and no help with symptoms?----Jackie > > > > I do think my testosterone took a nose dive last year - but don't know > if my basic insurance covers that kind of med. > > ----------Can you get your doctor to test it? If not, you can get it tested without a doctor through ZRT labs, and you could test just your testosterone, if you wanted to. They also have symptoms checklists at their website, so you might want to check that out, if you haven't already. www.zrtlab.com > > Also, Dr. Lee did right a small book about " Hormone Balance for Men " , but it deals mostly with how this affects the prostate, but at least it is focused on men. www.johnleemd.com > > More below-------Jackie > > > > > I have pretty much been consistently worse on and off round since > > > starting ala. > > ----------Did you feel somewhat better on DMSA alone? Maybe you should do some more rounds of DMSA alone and see how you feel.-------Jackie > > > > > > > > > I do not seem to react typically to mercury - it has made me > > > constantly exhausted with no relief for 20 yrs. I don't really get > > > ups and downs. And I think with chelating - my tiredness just gets > > > more intense at all times. No pattern, such as worse 2 days after. > > ----------Maybe you are extremely sensitive and possibly also have a mercury allergy, like Sherratt does? He has found he has to chelate very slowly. And have you ever done something like food allergy testing? There may be other things contributing to your fatigue.--------Jackie > > > > > > > > Consider adrenal issues. Adrenal support would likely help > > tremendously. Start with diet, lifestyle modification, supplements, > > and Rx if needed. There are lots of posts about adrenal fatigue in > > the archives... and what to do about it in AI. > > -----------How long ago did you test adrenals and/or try support? Many people find that their adrenals get worse after they have chelated for awhile. It may be worth looking into again. And testing all your hormones might be a good idea, if you haven't done that recently. You're not going to feel good if these are out of balance. You can order test kits yourself through the Canary Club. www.canaryclub.org -----------Jackie > > > > > > J > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 I did ask one pharmacy (in NY state) about Pregnenalone. They said they could only find one reference to it in a powder form and that it is by prescription only. Do you buy it OTC? The hormone test I ordered did not include cortisol or DHEA. After doing more reading about hormones, I think I should test these as well. > ------------------- > > Glad you're taking the zrt hormone test - its really helpful. Have > you considered that you may have high cortisol? It turned out that > was my problem which explained alot. Also, you might want to try some > pregnenolone. Its about $8 a bottle and its a precursor to all the > hormones. Start out low (5mg or so) and build up. > > Good luck, > Val > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 -Yep pregnenolone in the states over the counter.. Not so in Canada. http://www.iherb.com/Search.aspx?c=1 & kw=pregnenolone -- In frequent-dose-chelation , " Depue " wrote: > > I did ask one pharmacy (in NY state) about Pregnenalone. They said > they could only find one reference to it in a powder form and that it > is by prescription only. > Do you buy it OTC? > > The hormone test I ordered did not include cortisol or DHEA. > After doing more reading about hormones, I think I should test these > as well. > > > ------------------- > > > > Glad you're taking the zrt hormone test - its really helpful. Have > > you considered that you may have high cortisol? It turned out that > > was my problem which explained alot. Also, you might want to try some > > pregnenolone. Its about $8 a bottle and its a precursor to all the > > hormones. Start out low (5mg or so) and build up. > > > > Good luck, > > Val > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 > > I did ask one pharmacy (in NY state) about Pregnenalone. They said > they could only find one reference to it in a powder form and that it > is by prescription only. > Do you buy it OTC? ----------------------------- That's ridiculous. I've bought pregnenolone in 2 different states. One at a chain vitamin store and the other was a local health food store. Don't bother with the pharamcists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 I did not send in the 3 saliva samples from ZRT labs that I ordered because I found The Canary Website where you can get a discounted rate on a whole battery of saliva hormone tests. I hope ZRT will allow me to return the unused sample vials so that i can do the complete testing through Canary. I am very curious to get this done and see if I am low in any of these hormones. Thanks again for your help - > > The hormone test I ordered did not include cortisol or DHEA. > After doing more reading about hormones, I think I should test these > as well. > > ----------If you haven't taken the test yet, I would talk to them, because it should be cheaper if you do it all at once, and it would be best to base treatment on recent testing. There are different things you do for high or low cortisol, and if DHEA is low, you will probably benefit from supplementing it. And DHEA is a precursor to testosterone, and since that is low, it's very likely your DHEA could be too.------Jackie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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