Re: Possibly gettin worse not better...

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> Its coming up to 6 Months Amalgam removal, i only started

chelating 2

> months later. So ive done 3 months DMSA only and about 3/4 weeks

of

> ALA. To be honest im worse now than i was 6 months ago. Could the

> dumping phase of started 2-3 months ago, or is it only after 6

months ?

> If the dumping phase is going to happen soon, i feel i couldnt

possibly

> get worse so id hate to see what im like when this happens.

>

> Im having an alergic reaction to pritty much every single food im

> eating, 6 months ago there were a few more foods i could eat, and

6

> months before that there was even more foods which i was ok to

eat, now

> theres pritty much nothing. Aren't i supposed to get better not

worse ?

> The type of reaction is like an ichy feeling under the skin mainly

in

> the arms but all over the body, i probably look like a heroic

addict

> keep itching my arms lol.

>

> My stomach/my life/my body is a mess. If i could only turn these

> reactions around, so there was more foods which i could eat i

would

> feel so much better.

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Itching could be a yeast reaction. Have you tried taking

probiotics and antifungals? Hope you feel better..

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> > Itching could be a yeast reaction. Have you tried taking

> > probiotics and antifungals? Hope you feel better..

>

> Hey, yer im taking anti fungals, GSE + caprylic acid rotated each

> month. IM going to order nystatin online now. As for probiotics i

dont

> seem to be able to tolerate them, so my guess if also have very low

> good bacteria.

>

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Where do you order nystatin online? I thought you needed a script

for that. Also, maybe you could split the probiotic and just take

half or even a quarter. I think you've got to replace the good flora

to beat this beast down.

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> >

> > > Itching could be a yeast reaction. Have you tried taking

> > > probiotics and antifungals? Hope you feel better..

> >

> > Hey, yer im taking anti fungals, GSE + caprylic acid rotated each

> > month. IM going to order nystatin online now. As for probiotics i

> dont

> > seem to be able to tolerate them, so my guess if also have very

low

> > good bacteria.

> >

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>

> Where do you order nystatin online? I thought you needed a

script

> for that. Also, maybe you could split the probiotic and just take

> half or even a quarter. I think you've got to replace the good

flora

> to beat this beast down.

>

Yes i thought that also, and my doctor wouldnt give it me a

prescription, as in the UK its not very easy to get them to. I did a

google search " buy nystatin online " and theres a few

online " pharmacys " which you can order it from. Ive read that its

alot easier on the liver compared to Anti fungals, and its also very

effective,.

And i will give that a try just using small amounts of pro-biotics, i

cant get much worse so no harm in trying, thanks.

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> You are probably in the dumping phase. Did you ever feel better than

> you do now after getting amalgams out?

>

> Sometimes the dumping phase comes earlier or later for different

> people. Keep chelating to make this phase more tolerable, even if you

> only take DMSA.

I would say the first 2 months i felt " ok " compared to now. which is

strange, since people usually feel worse straight after amalgam

removal ? Can the dumping phase come that soon ?

Yes i will continue to chelate, im using just ALA at the moment, as i

dont feel as many side effects.

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It sounds like gut healing is needed. There is a plan for healing a

leaky gut in the book " Protein Power Lifeplan " . It would have to be

modified because of your limited diet. Could you survive on chicken

soup for a week or so? See the chicken soup recipe at this link:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/the_intro_diet2.htm

and gradually add the supplements that are essential for healing the

gut, like cod liver oil or fish oil plus vit A and D, lots of

magnesium, glutamine, and then gradually add the other basic

supplements that Andy recommends.

After a week or so on chicken soup gradually introduce other things

only as tolerated. Lamb and pears are often mentioned as foods that

allergic people are likely to tolerate. Cooked carrots are part of

the SCD chicken soup, and then other cooked vegetables are added, like

cooked squash.

(When I was having gut problems cooked meats and cooked vegetables

were the only things I could eat).

Digestive enzymes and Betaine HCl can be used to help with digestion

and absorption.

An IgE, IgG food panel may help to find some food that you can eat

while attempting to heal the gut.

Just some ideas.

J

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> Its coming up to 6 Months Amalgam removal, i only started chelating 2

> months later. So ive done 3 months DMSA only and about 3/4 weeks of

> ALA. To be honest im worse now than i was 6 months ago. Could the

> dumping phase of started 2-3 months ago, or is it only after 6 months ?

> If the dumping phase is going to happen soon, i feel i couldnt possibly

> get worse so id hate to see what im like when this happens.

>

> Im having an alergic reaction to pritty much every single food im

> eating, 6 months ago there were a few more foods i could eat, and 6

> months before that there was even more foods which i was ok to eat, now

> theres pritty much nothing. Aren't i supposed to get better not worse ?

> The type of reaction is like an ichy feeling under the skin mainly in

> the arms but all over the body, i probably look like a heroic addict

> keep itching my arms lol.

>

> My stomach/my life/my body is a mess. If i could only turn these

> reactions around, so there was more foods which i could eat i would

> feel so much better.

>

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> >

> > You are probably in the dumping phase. Did you ever feel better than

> > you do now after getting amalgams out?

> >

> > Sometimes the dumping phase comes earlier or later for different

> > people. Keep chelating to make this phase more tolerable, even if you

> > only take DMSA.

>

> I would say the first 2 months i felt " ok " compared to now. which is

> strange, since people usually feel worse straight after amalgam

> removal ? Can the dumping phase come that soon ?

>

> Yes i will continue to chelate, im using just ALA at the moment, as i

> dont feel as many side effects.

>

Have you tested and treated your adrenals? Your itching, leaky gut,

and increasing food sensitivities sound like they could be due to a

candida yeast infection. Poor adrenal function can allow a yeast

problem to develop and persist. Supporting the adrenals when they

are struggling will help you fight the infection.

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> > Have you tested and treated your adrenals? Your itching, leaky gut,

> > and increasing food sensitivities sound like they could be due to a

> > candida yeast infection. Poor adrenal function can allow a yeast

> > problem to develop and persist. Supporting the adrenals when they

> > are struggling will help you fight the infection.

> >

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> My hair test results were interperetd as

>

> Na/Mg = .71, low! ==> Adrenaline too low.

>

> Na & K, Ca & Mg adrenal sign looks fine ==> cortesol looks ok

The hair test does not rule out adrenal problems.

Do you have anxiety, fatigue, low blood pressure, dizziness on

standing, poor stress tolerance, difficulty shaking infections,

hypoglycemia? See Amalgam Illness for more discussion of adrenal

problems.

If you have any problem with depression, read Andy's post about

it, since some types of depression indicate a need for adrenal

support:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/15287

> One says low and one says ok ? So not too sure.. what would you

> reccommend for adrenals i will try to see if it makes some improvment.

If any of the above descriptions of symptoms sound like you, then

I would suggest a saliva test for cortisol levels. One place to

order a test kit is www.canaryclub.org. You can post the results

here for interpretation and suggestions. The test results will

give a better idea how to treat the problem.

For now you could try some adrenal cortex extract. Also, try 1/4 t.

of salt mixed in a glass of water - if it tastes good (not too salty),

then try doing it a few times per day. A better long-term solution

is an electrolyte mix, which you can find with a quick search.

Chelation is stress, infections such as candida are stress.

Stress can weaken the adrenals, thus impairing your ability to

fight infections and to heal during chelation. It's a vicious

cycle. If you need adrenal support, it will help a lot.

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> thanks

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