Re: Mercury and psychiatric disorders

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thx jada

how about dementia/schziophrenia jada? can mercury also cause them

through poisoning the hypothalamus? i'vce been developing huge

dementia since emrcury dental exposure 1,5 years ago, that i can

defientely say is now enetering the phase of schizophrenia, and i

literally felt at some point things crossing my bllood-brain barrier

and 'inhabiting' the brain and my frontal lobes, temproal lobes etc...

all those brain parts progressively just shutting down. And this

process continues , i keep going downhill, even though my amalgams

were out almost a eyar ago, and the exposure was even further back in

time. (done little chelation cause couldnt really handle it, thats

another issue). So I would more suspect things like

viral/bacteria/fungal infections of the CNS due to mercury's effect on

the immune system. so what's andy's or yours guys take on this?

because u know hypothalamus seems kind of far from temproal lobes or

frontal lobes

> Mercury damages brain neurons and block neurotransmitters. So nothing

> in the brain is going to function as it was meant too.

Yeah but isnt the mercury affinity towards the limbic system and lower

cns mainly? so again how could this cause things like progressive

dementia which higher cns?

> I think it's odd that

> the medical community assumwe that these disorders are because the

> brain is not wired right, as per genetics or damage. They never

> consider " What is causing the damage? " they just think people " get

> that way " or " inherit it "

I completely agree I never understood that either, especially given

the fact that brains ARE KNOWN to re-wire themsleves after such things

like a stroke etc. Or the fact that some people get those things later

in life they are nor born with them, so up to some point in their

lifes their brains were wired more or less OK, and then suddenly

rewired themselves. The ignorance of the medical community really

pisses me off.

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Posted by: " jinx1983pl " xmd@... jinx1983pl

Tue May 27, 2008 5:29 am (PDT)

>By the way, " borderline schizophrenic " is not a diagnosis, though

" borderline " and " schizophrenic " are. More relevant than a label would be to

tell us something about your symptoms and show us your hair test.

>hey dave, I know that, I havent got a diagnosis yet cause I'm trying

to avoid those psychiatrists as much as I can,

Very good plan - and make sure you have a backup! I've worked on emergency

units. Except under the most dire of circumstances, you do not want to be

there.

>I use dthe term 'borderline schziophrenic' as a name for my current state, I

wrote that what I have can be best descrivbed as huge dementia, and now it's

entered a phase where that i'd say it borderlines with schizophrenia

(and it's not like for me neither schizophrenia or borderline are REAL

dfiagnosis, they are just names for symptoms), my cognition,

assosciation is at a child's elevel, have more and more pronoucned

nehative symptoms like ...

Ok, don't worry about trying to put a name on it ...

>... lack of interest in anything (not raly

depressed), i feel like in a glass box , unreal, I sit all day and do

nothig, dont see or understand deeper menanings anymore, very poor

affect and cant read people, no real intellect, no interest in sex

(like your brain doesnt recognise what's 'sexy'), hearing loss,

balance problems, NO MEMORY really, like I've been studying this

protocole for almost 2 years now, and yesterday i frogot whether u can

use ala 3 or 6 months post removal, (which i woild never forget like a

coule of weeks ago), generally Ive lost most of my memory,

_This_ is good. It tells what's going on.

>.... so it's all DEMENTIA, that fits best,

No, but they certainly appear like they could be consistent with heavy metal

tox.

>i dont hear voices nor have

hallucinations, nor have any delusions (though things going on with my

health are so out of sense sometimes that I do wonder...)....

>I am 25. Memory problems/brain fog started in 2004 because of severe

candida.

Ok, I'm sure candida was a problem, but don't be so quick to decide that this

was the root problem.

>spent most of 2005/2006 in severe brain fog from which I

couldnt finish collegge

Did you have a manic or psychotic break? You don't need to answer that, but if

you did then you will want to make sure you have good support in place in case

you end up on a psych unit during your recovery process, ok?

>(could handle my candida, but have to say

cheated much on diet), did a hair analysis in 2006 showed up mercury ,

oxidatie stress and met some counting rules, also reacted to ALA, so

figured 'yeah mercury'

That's a very good deduction. If you still have the test, you might want to

share it with us. I'd be happy to take a look, for one.

>and wanted to get my 7 fillings out, had 2

drilled out (unprotected, only rubber dam, no biological dentists

where I live,) in october 2006 and that started it from me, from that

removal my health crashed

That is not unusual. You were clearly toxic to begin with, and then you got

much more exposed.

>and that's when i started developing this

huge dementia, got my teeth extarted spring/summer last year and tried

some dmsa chelation,

I take it that you've had _all_ your amalgam out, right? Or is there still

some in there?

>but my bodu stopped tolerating chelation and i continued getting worse,

Tell us what you tried (chelator, dose, timing) and what happened when you

tried. Also, what were the adjunct treatments that you tried.

I strongly suggest that as you do this, you keep a journal. This is important

for everyone, but it's particularly important for you, given your memory issues.

>other things have happened that last year like i had two body paralysis for

like 5-10 minutes ,

Very frightening. I've had a good friend with some frightening symptoms like

this.

>and at the

beginning of this year i expe3rienced some thing of a brain stroke to

my left hemisphere, went to hospital they didnt find anything and told

be to visit a psyhciatrist:), but the effcts to my left hemisphere

were lasting.

Ok, here we are again. You are trying to use diagnostic terms. Instead, tell

us what the symptoms were - what did you feel? What happened concretely?

>So thorughout those last months i can say I've literally fet my brain

shutting down, it's as if things (topxins, viruses?) have been

entering my brain and 'invading it', thats how I'd best describe it.

OVERALL I FEEL LIKE A VEGETABLE.

>What's interesdting is that I've resumed chelation a couple of days

ago and I am doing ALA 10mg round at the moment, and I'm NOT feeling

any detox symptoms (which I had before when trying ala), so i dont get

what's going on anymore it's as if my body isnt responding to healing

or anything.

I would be careful here. You don't want to be trying to provoke symptoms -

just the opposite. You want to keep it low enough to be comfortable. Also,

things won't happen right away. Stick to it, and you will see changes over a

period of time. That is one reason why it's good to keep a journal.

What level were you using ALA at before? Are you using it on the same timing

now?

Notice that you are in a different state now - your exposure has changed, and

so have your symptoms. You are going to expect that your reaction to

detoxification will also change.

>Think had some andrenal issues in the past due to candida and stuff,

Well, these are two different things. The adrenal issues, for mercury toxic

people, are usually related to the failure to produce the right amount of the

proper hormones, and that is caused by a blockage of the signals from the

pituitary.

>but recently tried licorice and it made my hyper, so i dont think i

have adrenal problem anymore.

That may be premature. Why don't you show us that hair test? Do you have a

more recent hair test?

>Thyroid score from recently is t3 a bit

lowish and t4 a bit high, which would look like a mercury conversion

problem but is it?

I have not yet looked into interpreting thyroid issues. I'm going to let

someone else say something about this, ok?

>so that's me. anny suggestions dave?

I think at least one thing you need right now is some sense of confidence that

you have identified at least one problem. Mercury is one, and an important

one. So, now that you've got that, you put your head down and work on it,

slowly by steadily. Don't try to push it to see that it's having an effect,

just take a low dose and keep going. You will need to get all kinds of

adjunctive therapies in place - particularly working on diet, including an

exclusion diet to look for food reactions and a sulfur exclusion diet to find

out if you are high or low sulfur. (The second of these is the most critical

for helping your symptoms.)

Of course, this may not be the only thing you will have to deal with, but it's

a big one. So, just stick with it with the confidence that getting through

this part of your struggles will clear the way to the next step.

Hope that helps as a first step?

Dave.

(PS. Make sure to tell me if you've gotten all of your amalgams out yet.)

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>

> thx jada

>

> how about dementia/schziophrenia jada? can mercury also cause them

> through poisoning the hypothalamus?

It is most likely that mercury causes dementia/schizophrenia by

poisoning other areas of the brain.

( " The hypothalamus controls body temperature, hunger, thirst, [1]

fatigue, anger, and circadian cycles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothalamus)

i'vce been developing huge

> dementia since emrcury dental exposure 1,5 years ago, that i can

> defientely say is now enetering the phase of schizophrenia, and i

> literally felt at some point things crossing my bllood-brain barrier

> and 'inhabiting' the brain and my frontal lobes, temproal lobes etc...

> all those brain parts progressively just shutting down. And this

> process continues , i keep going downhill, even though my amalgams

> were out almost a eyar ago, and the exposure was even further back in

> time. (done little chelation cause couldnt really handle it, thats

> another issue). So I would more suspect things like

> viral/bacteria/fungal infections of the CNS due to mercury's effect on

> the immune system. so what's andy's or yours guys take on this?

> because u know hypothalamus seems kind of far from temproal lobes or

> frontal lobes

>

> > Mercury damages brain neurons and block neurotransmitters. So nothing

> > in the brain is going to function as it was meant too.

>

> Yeah but isnt the mercury affinity towards the limbic system and lower

> cns mainly?

Mercury has an affinity for fatty tissues, and for sulfur (which is

found in all proteins), so lots and lots of areas of the body and

brain get poisoned.

It is true that mercury does have an affinity for the limbic system,

but it also has an affinity for many other areas.

J

so again how could this cause things like progressive

> dementia which higher cns?

>

> > I think it's odd that

> > the medical community assumwe that these disorders are because the

> > brain is not wired right, as per genetics or damage. They never

> > consider " What is causing the damage? " they just think people " get

> > that way " or " inherit it "

>

> I completely agree I never understood that either, especially given

> the fact that brains ARE KNOWN to re-wire themsleves after such things

> like a stroke etc. Or the fact that some people get those things later

> in life they are nor born with them, so up to some point in their

> lifes their brains were wired more or less OK, and then suddenly

> rewired themselves. The ignorance of the medical community really

> pisses me off.

>