would using frequent ALA dose affect a non Hg person?

[Guest guest]

Hi

I have a question that i was hoping someone could answer.

If someone who was not mercury poisoned chelated with ALA, would they

experience any negative affects?

I ask this because I have been feeling worse since starting ALA(with

DMSA) 2 months ago.

After a total of 19 rounds chelating I am discouraged that I am not

seeing improvement.

If I knew that my increase in fatigue, poor memory, and foggy

headedness was caused by ALA, I would be able to justify feeling this

way, knowing that I was getting Hg out.

Thanks -

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi

>

> I have a question that i was hoping someone could answer.

>

> If someone who was not mercury poisoned chelated with ALA, would they

> experience any negative affects?

>

If someone had no heavy metals in their body and chelated with ALA,

they would experience no negative effects. In fact, they would

experience the positive effects of the powerful antioxidant ability of

ALA.

Most people have some metals in their body.

> I ask this because I have been feeling worse since starting ALA(with

> DMSA) 2 months ago.

>

> After a total of 19 rounds chelating I am discouraged that I am not

> seeing improvement.

>

What doses of DMSA and ALA are you using?

> If I knew that my increase in fatigue, poor memory, and foggy

> headedness was caused by ALA,

It is caused by the ALA moving mercury out of your brain and organs.

These are side effects of chelation. If the side effects of chelation

are too much for you to tolerate, or go on for longer than a day or

so, then the dose needs to be reduced.

There may be ways to support your body to make chelation easier to take.

Chelation takes time, like years. It is best to take the mercury out

slowly and let the body heal as it goes, rather than take it out too

fast and do too much damage on the way out.

J

I would be able to justify feeling this

> way, knowing that I was getting Hg out.

>

> Thanks -

>

[Guest guest]

-I find at the dose I am currently on going to be alright

but am always vigile now , looking for things that may have

changed..//

It did take more than one round to see how I was

tolerating things as I increased dose strength.

... I had been at 50ALA/50 DMSA for about six

rounds .doing well and thought I would try 100ALA /50ALA The

first two rounds I did alright then boom I knew it was too

much and I went back down..

As long as I am on the supports now I only notice an affect

the first two or three doses with bad fatigue and poor

coordination , then things go back to normal the whole rest of

the round until day 5? { just watching again to see if there

is a pattern ] So i will not go over the 5 day limit..

Dont forget that our minerals ,etc are being used up more as

we chelate..

It really is important to be patient and go at the the

speed your body can handle..

nanci.

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>

> It is caused by the ALA moving mercury out of your brain and

organs.

> These are side effects of chelation. If the side effects of

chelation

> are too much for you to tolerate, or go on for longer than a day or

> so, then the dose needs to be reduced.

>

> There may be ways to support your body to make chelation easier to

take.

>

> Chelation takes time, like years. It is best to take the mercury

out

> slowly and let the body heal as it goes, rather than take it out too

> fast and do too much damage on the way out.

>

> J

>

>

>

> I would be able to justify feeling this

> > way, knowing that I was getting Hg out.

> >

> > Thanks -

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I am happy to hear that worsening of symptoms is an indication that Hg

is coming out.

I am using 50 mg dmsa (which does not make symptoms worse on its own.

In fact, I feel better with it on round )

I am also using 12.5 mg ala. The addition of ala is what made symptoms

worse.

My life is at a standstill because of my symptoms, so feeling slightly

worse than my usual bad is not really affecting much except my comfort.

As long as I know that ala is doing this I am happy to continue.

I am seeing my dr. tomorrow and I will ask him to prescribe Hydergine,

which is recommended by Dr Cutler for brain symptoms if I am correct.

Thank you

[Guest guest]

I have pretty much been consistently worse on and off round since

starting ala.

I do not seem to react typically to mercury - it has made me

constantly exhausted with no relief for 20 yrs. I don't really get

ups and downs. And I think with chelating - my tiredness just gets

more intense at all times. No pattern, such as worse 2 days after.

I do agree about increasing too quickly. I first started at 25 mg

ala, but quickly cut dose to 12.5

thanks -

[Guest guest]

thanks for your response,

the wiki site is a great resource and I didn't know about it.

I am 5 months post amamlgam removal ( at least the last of it - most

was taken out 4 yrs ago.)

I chelated with dmsa for 3 months, before adding ala 2 months ago.

I am not sure about when the stall period occurs or how long it lasts.

I have seen 3-9 months as well. Does that mean it lasts for 3-9

months, or that it occurs from month 3 until month 9 of chelation?

Or as you said it starts at month 6.

I bet it varies with the individual. So I will keep it in mind that

that might be happening.

Supplements have never seemed to help - although I am taking all the

basic recommended ones.

I don't know how to split the ala into even smaller doses without

really messing up consistency of amount per capsule.

I am taking 12.5 mg now.

I will keep your advice in mind about doing dmsa alone for awhile.

Cheers -

[Guest guest]

Hi Finkle,

I would be surprised if anyone who wasn't chelating would wake up

several times in the middle of the night to take ala - so I am sure

there is not much research or anecdotal info out there.

But the consensus seems to be that it does worsen symptoms.

So I will take heart that I am getting the mercury out.

[Guest guest]

Hi , I noticed mental decline in my son (10 years) who has a

history of 7 rounds ALA, 3 rounds ALA + DMSA, and last weekend we

just did ALA. I noticed the last few times I played Scrabble with

him that he couldn't add up the numbers real fast like he used to.

He also started forgetting things in the past couple weeks. After

the last round of both DMSA and ALA we took a month off. He started

getting worse at about 3 weeks and I told him it was because his body

was returning to its poisoned state and we need to chelate again.

(he is quite typical and the month off was actually for his brother

who was having a hard time.) I think it's safe to say that heavy

metal poisoning symptoms return quickly when there are still metals

in the system. So quickly sometimes that they don't go away. If

your body has decided to start dumping metals, it may stay bad for

awhile.

On the bright side, my husband noticed that my son was saying things

that were clever and thinking more creatively than he ever had

before. I don't know what this means, but I'm sure in the long run

we are doing the right thing. I certainly wish you the best, Liz.

>

> Hi

>

> I have a question that i was hoping someone could answer.

>

> If someone who was not mercury poisoned chelated with ALA, would

they

> experience any negative affects?

>

> I ask this because I have been feeling worse since starting ALA(with

> DMSA) 2 months ago.

>

> After a total of 19 rounds chelating I am discouraged that I am not

> seeing improvement.

>

> If I knew that my increase in fatigue, poor memory, and foggy

> headedness was caused by ALA, I would be able to justify feeling

this

> way, knowing that I was getting Hg out.

>

> Thanks -

>