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> In two out of my last three rounds I have had symptoms of the herpes

> roster virus - better know as shingles.

Sorry all the references to " Roster virus " should read " Zoster virus " .

I was in considerable discomfort at the time of the post. Feeling

better now. Did a bunch of broad spectrum minerals, ate raisins and

sunflowers seeds last night (copper), exited round seven of my DMPS

chelation one dose early and took a gram of Lysine, which has always

helped with my cold sores (oral herpes simplex) in the past. Seemed

to do the trick.

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TK--- suggestions - try shortening your rounds and see if it helps

and or try decreasing dosage, try taking supplements to decrease

herpies symptoms, outbreaks.

I have found [at times] I have less side effects dosing at 3hr

intervals with dmps. From what I have read DMPS can increase immune

responses. Unless you are really low copper i still don't think this

is the probable cause but if you do better with some foods that

contain some it isn't going to hurt unless you are high copper.

>

> Some weeks ago I posted under the subject DMPS side effects. This

> thread rambled on a while with many of you responding. One subject

of

> interest to me covered in post 25606, is the ability of DMPS to

> chelate copper.

>

> I wondered, based on references in Andy's book if using DMPS could

> cause a copper imbalance. After discussing it with TK and and

> others I was inclined to think not, as they do. However, in light of

> subsequent experiences I am more inclined to believe that, at least

in

> some cases, it should be expected to cause a mild copper deficiency

> if not otherwise remedied.

>

> In two out of my last three rounds I have had symptoms of the herpes

> roster virus - better know as shingles. In both cases the symptoms

> were similar and began towards the end of a five day - fifteen dose

> round . It has been widely observed that copper in various forms

and

> compounds acts to suppress or inactivate certain viruses, including

> Herpes simplex and Herpes Roster. Any adult that had chikenpox as a

> child carries the herpes roster virus (very often in an inactive

> state). When the virus becomes active you get shingles and or PHN,

a

> shingles related neuralgia.

>

> May be just a coincidence but I am inclined to think not

> There are plenty of abstracts out there that would indicate that

> copper suppresses or inactivates herpes. And references in AI that

> indicate that DMPS has been used to reduce copper levels in the

body.

>

> I am now inclined to believe that normal levels of copper in the

cells

> and blood helps keep herpes down, that DMPS does chelate copper and

> that the combination can cause an upswing in herpes roster

activity.

>

> " Mechanism of Copper-Mediated Inactivation of Herpes Simplex Virus

> JOSE-LUIS SAGRIPANTI,* LICIA B. ROUTSON, AYLIN C. BONIFACINO, AND C.

> DAVID LYTLE "

>

> Previous reports on inactivation of herpesvirus, arenavirus,

> and human immunodeficiency virus (26–28), together with advances

> in current knowledge of the interaction of copper with

> biomolecules, justified this study to explore the potential of

> copper-based formulations for the treatment of HSV infection.

>

> Thanks for reading my post.

>

> Doug

>

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Doug. I'll just suggest that Andy's comments with regard to herpes, is to use

lysine and vitamin C.

Dave.

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Posted by: " nhdougsimmons " seeheargear@... nhdougsimmons

Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:31 pm (PDT)

Some weeks ago I posted under the subject DMPS side effects. This

thread rambled on a while with many of you responding. One subject of

interest to me covered in post 25606, is the ability of DMPS to

chelate copper.

I wondered, based on references in Andy's book if using DMPS could

cause a copper imbalance. After discussing it with TK and and

others I was inclined to think not, as they do. However, in light of

subsequent experiences I am more inclined to believe that, at least in

some cases, it should be expected to cause a mild copper deficiency

if not otherwise remedied.

In two out of my last three rounds I have had symptoms of the herpes

roster virus - better know as shingles. In both cases the symptoms

were similar and began towards the end of a five day - fifteen dose

round . It has been widely observed that copper in various forms and

compounds acts to suppress or inactivate certain viruses, including

Herpes simplex and Herpes Roster. Any adult that had chikenpox as a

child carries the herpes roster virus (very often in an inactive

state). When the virus becomes active you get shingles and or PHN, a

shingles related neuralgia.

May be just a coincidence but I am inclined to think not

There are plenty of abstracts out there that would indicate that

copper suppresses or inactivates herpes. And references in AI that

indicate that DMPS has been used to reduce copper levels in the body.

I am now inclined to believe that normal levels of copper in the cells

and blood helps keep herpes down, that DMPS does chelate copper and

that the combination can cause an upswing in herpes roster activity.

" Mechanism of Copper-Mediated Inactivation of Herpes Simplex Virus

JOSE-LUIS SAGRIPANTI,* LICIA B. ROUTSON, AYLIN C. BONIFACINO, AND C.

DAVID LYTLE "

Previous reports on inactivation of herpesvirus, arenavirus,

and human immunodeficiency virus (26€ ¦’¶28), together with advances

in current knowledge of the interaction of copper with

biomolecules, justified this study to explore the potential of

copper-based formulations for the treatment of HSV infection.

Thanks for reading my post.

Doug

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I see Andy suggesting 2gms, so you might even take more, if needed.

Dave.

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Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:41 pm (PDT)

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> In two out of my last three rounds I have had symptoms of the herpes

> roster virus - better know as shingles.

Sorry all the references to " Roster virus " should read " Zoster virus " .

I was in considerable discomfort at the time of the post. Feeling

better now. Did a bunch of broad spectrum minerals, ate raisins and

sunflowers seeds last night (copper), exited round seven of my DMPS

chelation one dose early and took a gram of Lysine, which has always

helped with my cold sores (oral herpes simplex) in the past. Seemed

to do the trick.

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> Some weeks ago I posted under the subject DMPS side effects. This

> thread rambled on a while with many of you responding. One subject of

> interest to me covered in post 25606, is the ability of DMPS to

> chelate copper.

>

>

Hi Doug,

Did you do a hair test close to the beginning of chelation? Perhaps a

repeat hair test now would help you to get a feel for where your

copper levels are at.

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I think your problems can simply be caused by DMPS starting to

clear the mercury that is suppressing immune function. You would

expect to have some fluctuations in immune-related symptoms if

this is one of the problems mercury is causing, and it is for many

if not most of us.

As the immune system becomes more functional, your body would start

to fight latent infections. Most likely it will not be fully up to

speed until you make more progress with chelation. Until then, you

will need to support it.

As Dave already mentioned, lysine and vitamin C are good for herpes

viruses. If the infection is shingles, I suggest searching onibasu,

since I believe Andy has given specific advice about how to address it.

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