Re: my saliva test results

[Guest guest]

>

> Well, gang, my saliva test results are in I'm glad 'cause I feel

> one step closer to starting chelation! I was told to list the

> basics, so hopefully I'll do it right

>

> Here they are:

>

> IN range OUT of range RANGE

>

> Estradiol---------1.7-------------------1.3--3.3 Premenopausal

> Progesterone------------------8L--------75--270 Premenopausal

> Ratio: Pg/E2------------------5L--------Opt: 100-500 when E2 1.3-3.3

> Testosterone------17--------------------16--55(Age Dep) (16--47)

> DHEAS-------------2.0--------------------2--23(Age Dep) (2.7--8)

> Cortisol MORNING--4.1--------------------3.7--9.5

> Cortisol NOON-----1.9--------------------1.2--3.0

> Cortisol EVE------0.8--------------------0.6--1.9

> Cortisol NIGHT----0.7--------------------0.4--1.0

>

> **** what I don't understand, now that I'm looking at the chart,

> is why they chose the ranges for Testosterone and DHEAS differently

> than what the chart says. According to the chart, for my age range

> (I'm 50 and premenopausal) it says:

> Testosterone - Ages > 30 the range is 16--47 (in red above)

> DHEAS--------- Ages 46--60 the range is 2.7-8 "

I agree with you, I think they should have used the Age Dependent

ranges. It wouldn't make much difference for the testosterone--you'd

still be in the low normal. But using the Age Dependent scale your

DHEA-S would be below normal.

>

> ****I've been taking 60mg. Armour Thyroid for probably 10 years

> now, but not only briefly addressed the cortisol issue in a small

> way years ago (I didn't know that's what the Cortef was for back

> then, but for some reason, it wasn't continued).

>

> If anyone has opinions or suggestions, I'm open to hearing

> anything so I can put all the pieces together and start addressing

> this stuff so I can get to chelating soon Thanks in advance, you

> guys!

> : Donna

>

What I don't understand are the numbers for Progesterone and Ratio.

Are those really 8L and 5L? What do the L's mean? Or is it 8 and 5

and the L means Low? If that's the case, that would seem really low,

wouldn't it?

Your cortisol numbers look in-range but how did the curve compare to

the so-called normal curve? Or did this test not include a graphed curve?

I don't know how to interpret this test either. If you can answer the

question about the 8L/5L numbers, hopefully some one else will chime

in and tell us what they mean. If you have low progesterone, that

would be something you could do something about, right?

[Guest guest]

, you were right: the L = low and the H = high The explanatory pamphlet

that ZRT labs sent with the results helped me better understand the whole test

AND the suggestions that were given to me by Jackie, and (again

-- thanks, ladies!). My results were available online four days before I

received them in the mail, so of course I wanted to see them asap.

I'm very satisfied with the results, as far as it being necessary for me to

have a clearer picture of what's going on with my hormones and adrenals. I

thank all of you who recommended this as a necessary test. I can't afford the

testing, and I think this was the most valuable one for me. Eventually I hope

to do the Liver Detox Panel too, just to " know " what's going on with my phases,

though I'm universally chemically sensitive, so I suspect I'm fast phase 1 and

slow phase 2.

Though my cortisol levels are low, especially the morning one, they still

gradually decrease through the course of the day, so to me, this indicates that

they're working " properly " but are fatigued. I can't help but wonder if I just

get my bedtime reasonable, by about 11pm-ish, whether my morning cortisol would

gradually rise on its own. I do know that on the rare occasion (and I do mean

rare --- literally about 3 weeks spread out over the span of 30 years) that I

went to bed for at least a few nights in a row by about 11pm, I woke up more

naturally refreshed.

Before I knew I actually had a medical condition/physical cause for my

symptoms, I had always attributed it to a combo of eating too much junk food

(poor nutrition), lack of regular exercise, and very poor sleeping habits.

Granted -- I was only about 19-20 when my chronic brain fog set in and my muscle

pain and weakness began, so my poor lifestyle wasn't the " cause " of my illness;

I learned that 21 years ago. Although I know, for a fact, that mercury toxicity

is at the root of my conditions, I do still sincerely believe that my poor

lifestyle was a very real catalyst for my decline, which is why I know that

changing those habits (as extremely difficult as that is for me to do) will be

critical in my rise back to health.

: Donna