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Hi Darren,

That was a really good post, esp. your list of the supplements you

currently take... helpful to me as I try to figure out everything I

need right now in my own personal " arsenal " , as I undertake chelation

for the first time next week.

Re: taking L-tyrosine for the foggy, sluggish brain, are you taking

that on an empty stomach? It's imperative to do so, so that other

amino acids in food don't compete with it for uptake into the brain.

I know for myself personally, it has helped a great deal, for both

mood and mental clarity.

Suzanne

>

> With all of the supplements I'm on, I take about 15 pills at each

> meal, plus a few pills in between meals. That's roughly 50 pills

per

> day. When chelating, that's another 3, 8, 11, or 16 pills per day.

> Plus some liquid flax oil.

>

> In one year, that's over 20,000 pills.

>

> I have just made it such a habit that I hardly think much about

it. I

> don't enjoy swallowing pills, but I've gotten so used to it that I

> just down the 15 at each meal in about 1 minute flat (2-3 per

swallow).

>

> Ironically, though I'm committed to taking this army of supplements,

> I'm honestly not sure if any of them directly help with any of my

> symptoms. Even all of them together don't seem to really make me

feel

> any different. They probably are, at least in some subtle ways, but

> it's not obvious for me like for some other people.

>

> So I don't take them primarily for symptom relief. I take them to

> support my body during chelation and through the healing process,

with

> the idea that even though I don't necessarily " feel " a difference

> right now, my body needs them and this support will help facilitate

> recovery, and eventually I'll be very glad I took them.

>

> I take supplements...

> - to support the liver (essential during chelation - milk thistle)

> - to support the adrenals (mine are dysfunctional - DHEA, ACE)

> - for cell membrane/brain repair (Omega-3s)

> - to reduce oxidative stress (antioxidants)

> - to maintain good excretory processes (oat bran, physillium, fiber

> tablets)

> - to improve digestion and absorption of essential nutrients

(betaine

> HCL + digestive enzymes)

> - to help my foggy and sluggish brain (DMAE, L-tyrosine,

lecithin...

> these I hoped would have noticeable effects but the jury's still

out)

> - to support energy production (magnesium, Bcomplex)

> - and some others (Vit D, selenium, zinc, taurine).

>

> It's easy to forget why I'm taking certain ones, and I often have to

> do some research to figure out why I'm actually taking it. For

those

> supps that I try primarily for symptom relief but are cost

prohibitive

> (e.g., hydergine, CoQ-10) and don't seem to make much difference, I

> simply stop taking them and focus on what seem to be the " key

> supplements " for supporting chelation. I've tried MANY more

> supplements that are not included on my current list above.

>

> Anyway, that's what I'm doing and why. It ain't cheap, so I

certainly

> hope it's doing the good that I think it's doing. Vitacost.com has

> been a nice way to get some good deals on these supps...

>

> Darren

>

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> Re: taking L-tyrosine for the foggy, sluggish brain, are you taking

> that on an empty stomach? It's imperative to do so, so that other

> amino acids in food don't compete with it for uptake into the brain.

> I know for myself personally, it has helped a great deal, for both

> mood and mental clarity.

>

> Suzanne

>

Suzanne,

Yes, L-tyrosine is one of the supps I take in between meals. I may

take it with other supplements, but otherwise my stomach is empty.

Haven't noticed any benefit from it. I've typically been taking

1000mg twice per day.

What dosage works for you? Did it take a while to realize the effect,

or did you notice on the first day?

Thanks,

Darren

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