Re: Questions/Update - Dean & Colette.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dave I will try Vipicetine. I see the doctor soon. I

wondered about other reasons for vertigo because I really have had it

for years now...maybe 6 or so. It got better when I was pregnant

with my son...was tough before and after.

The motion was better but seemed stirred up by the last two

rounds...perhaps my lowered immunity has triggered it these last two

rounds.

suggested in the other group that my dose was too high. I have

been at this does since the end of February and only has two bad

rounds..the last two. Does this happen to people? Being okay at a

dosing level for 3 months and then not being okay?

As for this symptoms, I think before there were so many things going

on that I couldn't deal with everything. As some things gets better

I am able to concentrate on other symptoms...this is the next one I

would like to get a handle on. Thanks for you very helpful in put.

> If it's vertigo, then vinpocetine, 10-20mg 3-4x/d could help. If

that doesn't

> work, try manganese, 5mg/d. It is also possible that other

perfusion enhancers

> (hydergine, piracitam, pirinol, ginko) might work. (All from

NuBrain.com).

>

> Dave.

>

> Posted by: " DeanNetwork " dean@... deansta22

> Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:14 pm (PDT)

>

> > Also after the last round I have an increase in fatigue and the

> > feeling of motion. (Like when I stop moving it still feels like

I am

> > moving, the couch feels like it is gently rocking) This is the

most

> > difficult symptom for me. I have had to stop driving. Again, any

> > comments.

>

> Hi Collette,

>

> This is called vertigo and can be caused by inner ear infection

(which

> mercury can awaken due to lowered immunity there) and often it is

from jaw

> tension. As we chelate it causes a lot of stress, this translates

into jaw

> tension and impacts on the temporal bone that holds your inner ear

> mechanism.

>

> If it is not caused by a virus or bacteria (that often tracks from

the jaw -

> especially cavitations and infections), you might get a lot of

relief by

> seeing a physio or chiro that has training in CranioSacral therapy.

> DeanSA

>

[Guest guest]

If it's 3 months, you may be shifting into the more difficult phase of

chelation. My response at that point was that my hypo-mania went away and I

became just plain exhausted. During this period I had a phase with low levels

of other symptoms, like hand flapping and stims, but never so severe that it

was really a problem, the exhaustion was the issue that was front and center.

So, I suppose the vertigo could get worse at this stage, though I have not

actually seen that happen or heard reports of that before.

Oh, and when we have children, we go through a lot of changes. For one thing

(you should know this, even though I know it's a bit uncomfortable) there is a

lot of toxicity that goes into the fetus, so your own symptoms could have

easily changed at that point.

Dave.

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Posted by: " cann7899 " cann7899@... cann7899

Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:57 am (PDT)

Thanks Dave I will try Vipicetine. I see the doctor soon. I

wondered about other reasons for vertigo because I really have had it

for years now...maybe 6 or so. It got better when I was pregnant

with my son...was tough before and after.

The motion was better but seemed stirred up by the last two

rounds...perhaps my lowered immunity has triggered it these last two

rounds.

suggested in the other group that my dose was too high. I have

been at this does since the end of February and only has two bad

rounds..the last two. Does this happen to people? Being okay at a

dosing level for 3 months and then not being okay?

As for this symptoms, I think before there were so many things going

on that I couldn't deal with everything. As some things gets better

I am able to concentrate on other symptoms...this is the next one I

would like to get a handle on. Thanks for you very helpful in put.

[Guest guest]

Thanks again Dave,

i will try to be coherent To clarify. So when I say three months

i have actually been chelating 5. Have you found in your exsperience

that people go through tough chelation periods? I did think that

perhaps the last two rounds dumped or moved a lot of metals and hence

the symptoms.

I know people speak of symptoms popping back up. Perhaps this is it.

i do feel more tired. The wired feeling is dimishing with the

control of the fast phase one liver. My sped up feeling is managed

with oregano oil. I do feel tired. I think also here in Ontario it

is allergy season so perhaps my body is working overtime. Not to

mention being busy at work- although that is a welcomed distraction.!!

As for the fetus, all my kids were tested. You were incredibly

helpful with your comments. I did actually have a daughter die at 38

weeks. Two weeks before here due date. There were no obvious issues

but I often wonder about mercury.

Thanks for all your comments. I will check out some ear stuff and

other stuff.

Colette

> If it's 3 months, you may be shifting into the more difficult phase

of

> chelation. My response at that point was that my hypo-mania went

away and I

> became just plain exhausted. During this period I had a phase with

low levels

> of other symptoms, like hand flapping and stims, but never so

severe that it

> was really a problem, the exhaustion was the issue that was front

and center.

> So, I suppose the vertigo could get worse at this stage, though I

have not

> actually seen that happen or heard reports of that before.

>

> Oh, and when we have children, we go through a lot of changes. For

one thing

> (you should know this, even though I know it's a bit uncomfortable)

there is a

> lot of toxicity that goes into the fetus, so your own symptoms

could have

> easily changed at that point.

>

> Dave.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Posted by: " cann7899 " cann7899@... cann7899

Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:09 pm (PDT)

>Thanks again Dave,

>i will try to be coherent To clarify. So when I say three months

i have actually been chelating 5. Have you found in your exsperience

that people go through tough chelation periods?

Ah, well - you really need to get Andy's first book, and spend some time

looking at p.52. It's important to have it as a reference. This is a big

research project you are on, you know. You need the necessary text-books.

>I did think that perhaps the last two rounds dumped or moved a lot of metals

and hence the symptoms.

>I know people speak of symptoms popping back up. Perhaps this is it.

>i do feel more tired. The wired feeling is dimishing with the

control of the fast phase one liver. My sped up feeling is managed

with oregano oil. I do feel tired. I think also here in Ontario it

is allergy season so perhaps my body is working overtime. Not to

mention being busy at work- although that is a welcomed distraction.!!

>As for the fetus, all my kids were tested. You were incredibly

helpful with your comments. I did actually have a daughter die at 38

weeks. Two weeks before here due date. There were no obvious issues

but I often wonder about mercury.

>Thanks for all your comments. I will check out some ear stuff and

other stuff.

>Colette

Dave.