Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Just making sure, is phosphatidylserine the same as phosphorylated serine? Phosphorylated serine has a ACTH-damping effect and will cause decreased cortisol production. It is used when you have a saliva test that shows high cortisol, so if you have hypoadrenalism then you would make matters worse when taking this supplement. Presumably it has other effects other than lowering cortisol. DeanSA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Hello . I am wondering since you do have some coffee, that your memory problem may be from something else other than pure brain function. I find that when I am starting to feel dopey , it can also mean my blood sugar levels are low. Anything that feeds us also affects our brain. If you are still consuming coffee that would help you not feel so much the fatigue that also goes along with low blood sugar .. I would get off the coffee. In our state we should not be having any as it is hard on our adrenals. If you feel very tired once off the coffee , I find the mineral chromium marvellous. It is one of those miracle things for me... It pops me right into mental alertness. Of course we are all different and hypoglycemia can have other problems at its root. It could be you need adrenal support too.HAve you had the saliva test for adrenals?? nanci > > I work hard for every (simple or > not so simple - if it is new, it is a struggle) concept learned AND > retained....am I better served by sticking with the pregnenolone, > which helps immensely (plus takes my coffee consumption down > considerably)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 I sooo have no idea? will check that - I am thinking I really want to avoid lowering my cortisol which would take it off the list of things to " maybe try " rather quickly thanks, elizabeth -- In frequent-dose-chelation , " DeanNetwork " wrote: > > > Just making sure, is phosphatidylserine the same as phosphorylated serine? > > Phosphorylated serine has a ACTH-damping effect and will cause decreased > cortisol production. It is used when you have a saliva test that shows high > cortisol, so if you have hypoadrenalism then you would make matters worse > when taking this supplement. > Presumably it has other effects other than lowering cortisol. > DeanSA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Hi , Check this website page: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ps/ Phosphatidylserine does lower cortisol but it can be used to manage cortisol levels in a way that supports the adrenals. Early on in the adrenal exhaustion picture the cortisol levels are upside down - low in the morning when they should be high to wake you up, and high in the evening when they should be low to put you to sleep. I think I followed a link from the stopthethyroidmadness to another site which suggested phosphatidylserine 300-800mg before bedtime to get a good night's sleep. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Nanci..chuckling - coffee is definitely a crutch. Finding better crutches, well, that has been tougher...The chromium I may add in again - didn't feel so good in past, throw it in every once in a while to check, has been some amount of time tho...My adrenals have improved vastly, was rather afraid at one point that they might be totally shot & hypoglycemic symptoms have been huge over the years (with hindsite, that is, ug)..those are so very much improved also, tho I still avoid the fruit juices, they will zonk me out in a heartbeat Hmmm, fairly certain that pituitary connections end up being the biggest underlying " thing " for me....thanks! elizabeth > > > > I work hard for every (simple or > > not so simple - if it is new, it is a struggle) concept learned AND > > retained....am I better served by sticking with the pregnenolone, > > which helps immensely (plus takes my coffee consumption down > > considerably)... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Dean....A quick (yahoo) search got me the site/info below... Does the info at this site sound correct (enough) to you? no mention of ACTH, but based on the bits that are there, that is enough for me to put it on the " avoid this supp " list - does this sound reasonable to you? Url for site - http://www.drdebe.com/phosphorylatedser.html thanks, elizabeth > > > Just making sure, is phosphatidylserine the same as phosphorylated serine? > > Phosphorylated serine has a ACTH-damping effect and will cause decreased > cortisol production. It is used when you have a saliva test that shows high > cortisol, so if you have hypoadrenalism then you would make matters worse > when taking this supplement. > Presumably it has other effects other than lowering cortisol. > DeanSA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Gail, others - I just looked at this (different url, tho the url given didn't work, so did it this way... http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ps/ (links to) http://www.raysahelian.com/ps.html This high cortisol at nite was a constant for me for many many years...I still occasionally have this problem, a couple times a month maybe (sooo like that improvement Would this be a good thing to try during those times? Is there a (lesser) thing to try first? ...none are coming to mind for me right now...thanks! elizabeth > > Hi , > > Check this website page: > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ps/ > > Phosphatidylserine does lower cortisol but it can be used to manage > cortisol levels in a way that supports the adrenals. Early on in the > adrenal exhaustion picture the cortisol levels are upside down - low in > the morning when they should be high to wake you up, and high in the > evening when they should be low to put you to sleep. > > I think I followed a link from the stopthethyroidmadness to another > site which suggested phosphatidylserine 300-800mg before bedtime to get > a good night's sleep. > > Gail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 ps to (Dean) post - just found these at onibasu - searched am & fdq, for " phosphatidylserine andy acth cortisol " - had 2 hits... http://onibasu.com/archives/am/120762.html *(dhea link, instead of?) *see also http://onibasu.com/archives/am/120666.html (gen info) AND http://onibasu.com/archives/am/99965.html *( " chuckling " list, temporal lobe link / previously found and saved, for chuckles, mainly It looks like dhea would be good to try for the nighttime cortisol thing - is this correct? For this angle, addressing high nighttime cortisol, would dhea be better as daily supp, or specifically at nite?? big sigh - think I am mixing something up here, but not sure what... thanks! elizabeth > > > > > > Just making sure, is phosphatidylserine the same as phosphorylated > serine? > > > > Phosphorylated serine has a ACTH-damping effect and will cause > decreased > > cortisol production. It is used when you have a saliva test that > shows high > > cortisol, so if you have hypoadrenalism then you would make matters > worse > > when taking this supplement. > > Presumably it has other effects other than lowering cortisol. > > DeanSA > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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