Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 > But I've read that if the liver is toxic, then the bile being released > is toxic and it irritates the intestines, and possibly causes any > number of reactions. So it would follow that doing too much of > something that is causing bile to release is not a good idea. Somehow > that seems like what happened today where I had a sudden reaction > after eating something that was not reactive, but had taken milk > thistle with it. I felt better after a hour or so. But then awhile > later, I decided to eat a grapefruit. I immediately had a full-on > attack. Not sure if this info is meaningful, but if anyone has any > comment as to what could cause such a thing (i.e. too much milk > thistle - or the grapefruit?), I'd appreciate it. I would really like > to do the liver detox panel, but can't afford to just now. > Thanks, > ~ C. Hi , It does sound like a gall-bladder spasm. The way to test for sure is to take some Epsom salts as soon as you have an attack, about 1/2 - 1 tablespoon in some water. (if you have eaten recently then take less as it can make you feel nauseas if it is mixed with food). The Epsom salts relaxes the bile ducts and is part of the famous liver and gallbladder flush of Dr (which Andy dissuades in mercury toxic people). I have through my own choice decided to do them in the past and was blown away during the first few cleanses by the size and number of stones that were removed. If you have been taking milk thistle you will initiate bile flow, this can move a stone/or many stones into a tight position and the bile ducts will spasm around it. This also causes neck/base of skull and right shoulder blade referral? If you confirm that the pain is bile duct/gall stone related you'll have to make a decision about whether you believe a flush is indicated for you despite it going against Andy's protocol, which I guess becomes a question for another list? DeanSA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Hi , Whenever my wife tries milk thistle, it causes liver ache/discomfort and fatigue that grows over a period of days/weeks. Glycine and taurine does the same thing too, but lecithin has been helpful. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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