little depressed after starting chelation (advice needed pls!)

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I'm currently on my 4th round of DMPS, 10mg every 6 hours. I only

just started chelation about 2 weeks ago.

Although I've had many years of depression/dysthymia, mood swings,

and anxiety, I felt truly significant, upwards improvement during,

and esp. after, amalgam removal. (I was also taking some good

supplements for mood/brain health at the time, and they certainly

helped a good deal, but I *know* they were only a part of it, as I've

taken similar stuff in the past and NEVER had improvement like that).

I started getting my 8 amalgams out around mid-May, and completed the

process in early July. During that time, there was a gradual, but

noticeable improvement in my aforementioned brain problems...

depression/dysthymia improved markedly, and even in the last few

weeks, had felt great... no more huge, frequent mood swings! (only

*mild* fluctuations)... no more occasional " panic " type feelings, and

much less anxiety in general.

The change was rather remarkable, and had not felt that much progress

in MANY, many years. It was clear to me: this was the *REAL DEAL*.

Mercury had apparently been a big part of my problem, and now I was

starting to change that.

Started chelation about 2 weeks ago, and mood was still good. By the

3rd round, mood had dropped down a notch, but was still ok. But now

on the 4th round... yesterday, my mood plummeted during the day, and

remains low today (moderately depressed). I haven't felt depressed

in quite a while now... maybe a couple months. I feel very

disappointed b/c I thought the change was real, and lasting -- the

start of something new. But now I'm scared that I'm reverting back

to the old ways.

I know there are supposed to be up's and down's while chelating. So

am not sure if what I'm now experiencing is normal, and just par for

the course -- or not? If people were to tell me their own

experiences, or what they know... if this is just one of those bumps

in the road, but that things will probably get back on track later, I

would feel much better about this... much more able to " get through

it " ...

Also, does anyone know why someone would feel depressed while

chelating if DMPS doesn't cross the BBB? Is it b/c DMPS affects

*other* parts of the body (other than the brain) that can, in an

indirect sort of way, cause depression -- and if so, any ideas how it

can do that, mechanistically?

Any advice appreciated (and needed!). Thanks.

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-Hi Petshopgirl..

I had a similar thing happen. I had beat depression about 6

years ago.. I was still very very sick but the depression had

stayed away .. THen after my first return to frequent

dose of just DMSA my depression came back big time.. I

went back to 5 HTP and stayed on it for about five months.

These last two months I have been chelating and have not had

to take 5 HTP at all and it has stayed away

IT also could have stayed away because my gut is generally

alot better with added choline from lecithin and phosphytidal

choline which is good also for depression, page 161 of AI

Did you know that alot / most I think of our serotonin is

actually made in our gut??? SO that makes sense in my case

that as my gut was bad I just needed more support ... Not

too sure as with DMSA detox happens through the kidneys

so does that mean our livers do not work any harder at all

during rounds..?? so why it got worse with frequent dose

using DMSA ,,, I dont understand the whys ,,I just kwow it did

happen to me.. You should not worry.. I know it feels just

awful.. Are you taking anything.. 5HTP ?? phoshatidylcholine??

Other things that helped you before>>???

Nanci

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , " petshopgirl6 "

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> I'm currently on my 4th round of DMPS, 10mg every 6 hours.  I only

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> just started chelation about 2 weeks ago. & #65007; & #65007;

> & #65007; & #65007;

> Although I've had many years of depression/dysthymia, mood swings,

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> and anxiety, I felt truly significant, upwards improvement during,

& #65007; & #65007;

> and esp. after, amalgam removal.  (I was also taking some good

& #65007; & #65007;

> supplements for mood/brain health at the time, and they certainly

& #65007; & #65007;

> helped a good deal, but I *know* they were only a part of it, as

I've & #65007; & #65007;

> taken similar stuff in the past and NEVER had improvement like

that). & #65007; & #65007;

> & #65007; & #65007;

> I started getting my 8 amalgams out around mid-May, and completed

the & #65007; & #65007;

> process in early July.  During that time, there was a gradual, but

& #65007; & #65007;

> noticeable improvement in my aforementioned brain problems... & #65007; & #65007;

> depression/dysthymia improved markedly, and even in the last few

& #65007; & #65007;

> weeks, had felt great... no more huge, frequent mood swings!  (only

& #65007; & #65007;

> *mild* fluctuations)... no more occasional " panic " type feelings,

and & #65007; & #65007;

> much less anxiety in general. & #65007; & #65007;

> & #65007; & #65007;

> The change was rather remarkable, and had not felt that much

progress & #65007; & #65007;

> in MANY, many years.  It was clear to me:  this was the *REAL

DEAL*.  & #65007; & #65007;

> Mercury had apparently been a big part of my problem, and now I was

& #65007; & #65007;

> starting to change that. & #65007; & #65007;

> & #65007; & #65007;

> Started chelation about 2 weeks ago, and mood was still good.  By

the & #65007; & #65007;

> 3rd round, mood had dropped down a notch, but was still ok.  But

now & #65007; & #65007;

> on the 4th round... yesterday, my mood plummeted during the day,

and & #65007; & #65007;

> remains low today (moderately depressed).  I haven't felt depressed

& #65007; & #65007;

> in quite a while now... maybe a couple months.  I feel very & #65007; & #65007;

> disappointed b/c I thought the change was real, and lasting -- the

& #65007; & #65007;

> start of something new.  But now I'm scared that I'm reverting back

& #65007; & #65007;

> to the old ways. & #65007; & #65007;

> & #65007; & #65007;

> I know there are supposed to be up's and down's while chelating. 

So & #65007; & #65007;

> am not sure if what I'm now experiencing is normal, and just par

for & #65007; & #65007;

> the course -- or not?  If people were to tell me their own & #65007; & #65007;

> experiences, or what they know... if this is just one of those

bumps & #65007; & #65007;

> in the road, but that things will probably get back on track later,

I & #65007; & #65007;

> would feel much better about this... much more able to " get through

& #65007; & #65007;

> it " ... & #65007; & #65007;

> & #65007; & #65007;

> Also, does anyone know why someone would feel depressed while & #65007; & #65007;

> chelating if DMPS doesn't cross the BBB?  Is it b/c DMPS affects

& #65007; & #65007;

> *other* parts of the body (other than the brain) that can, in an

& #65007; & #65007;

> indirect sort of way, cause depression -- and if so, any ideas how

it & #65007; & #65007;

> can do that, mechanistically? & #65007; & #65007;

> & #65007; & #65007;

> Any advice appreciated (and needed!).  Thanks. & #65007; & #65007;

> & #65007; & #65007;