Re: Hair-Analysis, Sulpha-Allergy (Newbie Seeking Advice) (Hair Test 200)

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Andy,

>

> Thanks for answering.

>

Not Andy here (I'm J). I'll answer what I can (sometimes Andy

comes back, and sometimes he doesn't come back for months)

> > It shows very substantial adrenal stress, otherwise nothing notable

> beyond it meeting a counting rule.

>

> --- Would like to understand how you work this out.

There are 9 bars (of the essential elements) in the green and white

zone. That meets the counting rule of " 11 or less " in these zones

(rule 4, page 25, " Hair Test Interpretation " )

Your hair test also meets the " 4 or more in the red zone " rule (rule 3

in HTI).

Meeting counting rules means that mineral transport is deranged. That

only happens with mercury poisoning (the only other possibility would

be pregnancy and lactation).

Sodium and potassium bars go to the right and are quite elevated.

Magnesium and calcium bars go to the left and are quite low. This is

a clear adrenal sign. On the home page for Andy's book:

http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

under the heading " Useful information excerpted from Hair Test

Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities: "

you will find that Andy says: " Potassium and sodium up with calcium

and magnesium down means too much adrenaline but not enough cortisol. "

More detail in both of his books.

> --- Do I need to correct this BEFORE chelation?

You would be wise to start working on it before chelation.

Technically you will not be able to totally " correct " it without

chelation.

> --- If so? Can use some advice on how exactly do I do that (clueless)?

There are many things to do to start to support your adrenals,

starting with diet, supplements, lifestyle modification and then

possibly Rx medication (replacement of physiological doses of

cortisol). All are discussed in the " Adrenal " section (starting on p

118) , and supplement sections (p 133-167) of " Amalgam Illness " , and

are too numerous for me to start listing. Also see " Magnesium,

potassium copper and iron " starting on p 98).

One thing that I will mention that is not always emphasized is to use

adrenal cortex extract. You can start working on all of those things

now, except that you will need to find a doctor if you decide to look

for cortisol replacement therapy.

From my experience I would say that it would be great if you could

find a doctor to write prescriptions for physiological doses of

cortisol. The problem is that those doctors are not easy to find.

One possible place to start looking is the physician lists at

www.endfatigue.com (I am not familiar with any of those doctors. The

doctor who started my prescription was using that book and " Safe Uses

of Cortisol " by Jefferies).

Supporting adrenals is a topic that comes up frequently in the groups.

Use www.onibasu.com to search for previous posts.

> --- Should I be glad nothing else looks off, or is that a bad thing in

> some bizarre and twisted way?

>

Copper is below the mid point. That is a good thing. The fact that

mercury and some of the other heavy metals are elevated shows that you

are excreting them to some extent. That could be seen as a good thing.

Lithium is low. That can be addressed with low doses of supplemental

lithium available in health food stores. See the lithium section of

HTI or search for previous posts to find suitable dose.

>

> > Actually same with DMPS if you take it properly unless you had a

> true allergic reaction to the DMPS iv.

>

> --- I should have been clearer. I do have a true allergy to the drug

> Sulpha. Found out as a child when I got a rash from Sulpha powder

> administered to a burn.

> --- During DMPS chelation, my throat closed up, my blood-pressure

> began to yo-yo (up to 170, down to 60, back and forth) and I'm fairly

> confident I was working up to an anaphylactic shock.

> --- So this still leaves me with the DMPS/DMSA/ALA dilemma.

>

It would be best for Andy to comment on this because he is the expert.

I do want to direct you to this one interesting post from a member of

our group (who is likely still following the group now):

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/24006

Note the part where he says " I take this as proof that the metals

mobilized during chelation are also allergens which

have effects similar to those of the foods. "

Note that chelation with Andy's protocol uses very, very low doses of

chelator and moves very small amounts of metals at any time while DMPS

IVs use enormous amounts of chelator and move enormous amounts of

metals - way too much for the body to deal with. There have been

many, many reports of serious reactions from DMPS IVs. I am so sorry

that you had this experience.

Because you had this experience I would suggest that you think about

consulting with Andy Cutler or .

>

> > To a certain extent it does depend on how long you're willing to

> stick with it...

>

> --- I'm in for the duration - WHATEVER it takes.

> --- How will I know I'm done?

>

>

> Final note on doctors: I don't blame them for not knowing, just for

> pretending they do.

>

> When it comes to doctors, I always exercise my veto rights.

>

> Additionally, I'm a firm believer in: " When in Doubt, Do NOTHING! "

>

Very wise.

> I was sent to an endocrinologist for my thyroid. She immediately

> offered the standard " solution " for a " seemingly perky " thyroid.

> " Irradiate, irradiate, irradiate " .

>

> I tried to engage her curiosity to further investigate what surely was

> not a cut and dry hyperthyroid presentation.

>

> This doctor is a WOMAN of about thirty, so I was quite surprised

> (doesn't happen often) by her total lack of curiosity.

>

> Anyway, I thanked her politely and refused her offer, and

> counter-offer (thyroid meds, beta-blocker) and left, but not before

> she made sure I knew I was at death's door.

>

Be sure not to start thyroid meds without replacing cortisol first.

The silly endocrinologist should know that, but she probably doesn't.

J

(Hello from Saskatchewan)

> She then wrote a letter to my family doctor urging him to persuade me

> to have the procedure or suffer dire consequences.

>

> My thyroid " lost its mind " immediately after the improper amalgam

> removal and chelation. I have no doubt it was mercury that drove it to

> madness, and I'm going to give it every chance to recover by chelating.

>

> Thanks again,

>

> Peace

> Sunny (Hair Test 200)

>

[Guest guest]

(adrenal stress)

> > --- Do I need to correct this BEFORE chelation?

No, but is right that you're going to be a lot less miserable if you do

something

about it right away.

> You would be wise to start working on it before chelation.

> Technically you will not be able to totally " correct " it without

> chelation.

>

>

>

>

> > --- If so? Can use some advice on how exactly do I do that (clueless)?

Start by getting adrenal cortex (e. g. by Nutricology or Thorne Research or

Standard

Process) and taking it. Also licorice helps. Then you can move up to what

discusses

here.

>

>

> There are many things to do to start to support your adrenals,

> starting with diet, supplements, lifestyle modification and then

> possibly Rx medication (replacement of physiological doses of

> cortisol). All are discussed in the " Adrenal " section (starting on p

> 118) , and supplement sections (p 133-167) of " Amalgam Illness " , and

> are too numerous for me to start listing. Also see " Magnesium,

> potassium copper and iron " starting on p 98).

>

> One thing that I will mention that is not always emphasized is to use

> adrenal cortex extract.

Yup. A very underappreciated supplement.

>You can start working on all of those things

> now, except that you will need to find a doctor if you decide to look

> for cortisol replacement therapy.

>

> From my experience I would say that it would be great if you could

> find a doctor to write prescriptions for physiological doses of

> cortisol.

Try adrenal cortex, licorice, and small frequent high protein meals and see

where you are.

> The problem is that those doctors are not easy to find.

> One possible place to start looking is the physician lists at

> www.endfatigue.com (I am not familiar with any of those doctors. The

> doctor who started my prescription was using that book and " Safe Uses

> of Cortisol " by Jefferies).

>

> Supporting adrenals is a topic that comes up frequently in the groups.

> Use www.onibasu.com to search for previous posts.

>

>

>

>

> > --- Should I be glad nothing else looks off, or is that a bad thing in

> > some bizarre and twisted way?

No, once mineral transport is deranged most of the other things you might look

at lose

their meaning.

> >

>

>

> Copper is below the mid point. That is a good thing. The fact that

> mercury and some of the other heavy metals are elevated shows that you

> are excreting them to some extent. That could be seen as a good thing.

>

> Lithium is low. That can be addressed with low doses of supplemental

> lithium available in health food stores. See the lithium section of

> HTI or search for previous posts to find suitable dose.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > > Actually same with DMPS if you take it properly unless you had a

> > true allergic reaction to the DMPS iv.

> >

> > --- I should have been clearer. I do have a true allergy to the drug

> > Sulpha.

Which is not DMPS, is not related to DMPS, and does not cross react with DMPS.

> > Found out as a child when I got a rash from Sulpha powder

> > administered to a burn.

> > --- During DMPS chelation, my throat closed up, my blood-pressure

> > began to yo-yo (up to 170, down to 60, back and forth) and I'm fairly

> > confident I was working up to an anaphylactic shock.

> > --- So this still leaves me with the DMPS/DMSA/ALA dilemma.

ALA is essential, DMPS and DMSA are not.

> It would be best for Andy to comment on this because he is the expert.

>

> I do want to direct you to this one interesting post from a member of

> our group (who is likely still following the group now):

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/24006

>

> Note the part where he says " I take this as proof that the metals

> mobilized during chelation are also allergens which

> have effects similar to those of the foods. "

>

> Note that chelation with Andy's protocol uses very, very low doses of

> chelator and moves very small amounts of metals at any time while DMPS

> IVs use enormous amounts of chelator and move enormous amounts of

> metals - way too much for the body to deal with. There have been

> many, many reports of serious reactions from DMPS IVs. I am so sorry

> that you had this experience.

>

> Because you had this experience I would suggest that you think about

> consulting with Andy Cutler or .

>

>

>

> >

> > > To a certain extent it does depend on how long you're willing to

> > stick with it...

> >

> > --- I'm in for the duration - WHATEVER it takes.

> > --- How will I know I'm done?

> >

> >

> > Final note on doctors: I don't blame them for not knowing, just for

> > pretending they do.

> >

> > When it comes to doctors, I always exercise my veto rights.

> >

> > Additionally, I'm a firm believer in: " When in Doubt, Do NOTHING! "

> >

>

>

> Very wise.

>

>

>

>

> > I was sent to an endocrinologist for my thyroid. She immediately

> > offered the standard " solution " for a " seemingly perky " thyroid.

> > " Irradiate, irradiate, irradiate " .

> >

> > I tried to engage her curiosity to further investigate what surely was

> > not a cut and dry hyperthyroid presentation.

> >

> > This doctor is a WOMAN of about thirty, so I was quite surprised

> > (doesn't happen often) by her total lack of curiosity.

That is endocrinology for you!

Women actually are far worse doctors than men because they are less angry and

rebellious, and fit in socially better than men, so they pick up the culture of

medicine in

medical school and residency very very well. They tend to be much NICER in

refusing to

help you, or to think, but they're a lot less likely to be rebellious and do

something

'different.'

> > Anyway, I thanked her politely and refused her offer, and

> > counter-offer (thyroid meds, beta-blocker) and left, but not before

> > she made sure I knew I was at death's door.

> >

>

>

> Be sure not to start thyroid meds without replacing cortisol first.

> The silly endocrinologist should know that, but she probably doesn't.

Actually this is a little blurb of confusion.

If you are HYPERthyroid, that stresses the adrenals and once the thyroid calms

down your

adrenals may do better. It is if you are HYPOthyroid that you can make your

adrenal

situation worse if you improve your thyroid situation.

Endocrinologists ignore adrenal issues until death is imminent - it is part of

their human

sacrificing religious cult. Their standard textbook even chides them for this.

>

> J

> (Hello from Saskatchewan)

>

>

>

>

>

> > She then wrote a letter to my family doctor urging him to persuade me

> > to have the procedure or suffer dire consequences.

> >

> > My thyroid " lost its mind " immediately after the improper amalgam

> > removal and chelation. I have no doubt it was mercury that drove it to

> > madness, and I'm going to give it every chance to recover by chelating.

> >

> > Thanks again,

> >

> > Peace

> > Sunny (Hair Test 200)

> >

>