Re: was: bad bronchial/dry cough Now: It's back again

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-Thanks .

I was thinking of going back and asking about antibiotics. I mean they

only tried two and that was in November. Here it is almost May. The

doctors are telling me that " they think I had a virus or bacterial

lung infection that has left me with irritated lungs, which is causing

this " . However that does not explain why my ears are full of fluid and

hurt, I cough up junk, my throat got sore and tonsils infected..etc.

With the new warnings out about not over prescribing antibiotics, now

they don't want to give them to anyone. They told me ear infections go

away on their own (huh..I am proof that is not the case for all of us)

My ENT appointment is next tues. I think I will be angry if I go in

and he says all I need is antibiotics.

Jada,

I had a bad infection like you are talking about and and it got into my ears

and made my eardrum rupture, it took many months for that to heal up and was

very painful. Its ridiculous not to give antibx for those infections. See

another Dr asap!

Marcia

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[Guest guest]

I really think it would be worth testing lung function to see if you

have a touch of asthma. All that's involved is blowing in a machine

that measures the volume of air expelled - if you can only find the

doctor that has the machine. If there is asthma, treating it can help

to prevent these infections from going on for so long, which helps to

prevent secondary infections, and the treatment doesn't go on for life

(like some people believe). (You didn't mention if the cough is worse

at night - that's one sign of coughing asthma).

The remedy I use for *external* ear infections is a mix of half

vinegar and half ethanol, put a half teaspoon in the ear for about 5

min, once or twice a day until the symptoms stop. It won't help with

internal ear infections.

I also think that adrenal support will help (maybe not to get rid of

this one, but to prevent or help treat the next one).

I have had at least one course of antibiotics per year for about 20

years and a recent test showed that there are no antibiotic resistant

genes in my normal flora (bacteria pass genes from one to another).

Sure, there's no point using antibiotics to treat a virus, but it

sounds like you are having secondary (bacterial) infections.

Andy usually says to post the message in a group and send him the post

number (as you probably already know).

J

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> -Thanks .

> I was thinking of going back and asking about antibiotics. I mean they

> only tried two and that was in November. Here it is almost May. The

> doctors are telling me that " they think I had a virus or bacterial

> lung infection that has left me with irritated lungs, which is causing

> this " . However that does not explain why my ears are full of fluid and

> hurt, I cough up junk, my throat got sore and tonsils infected..etc.

> With the new warnings out about not over prescribing antibiotics, now

> they don't want to give them to anyone. They told me ear infections go

> away on their own (huh..I am proof that is not the case for all of us)

> My ENT appointment is next tues. I think I will be angry if I go in

> and he says all I need is antibiotics.

> My chelation has been scanty, a round a month at the most. I cannot do

> it more than that or I get sick too. Originally when I came down with

> laryngitis in October it was a few days after a round. They think

> that infection went into my lungs. They gave me amox for it, then

> tried azithr..with no result. But from my records it seems these

> respiratory problems have been on going for years.

> I only used those gargle for a few days. The iodine was used by

> physicians years ago to cure tonsillitis. It got rid of the sore

> throat. I am taking probiotic and GSE, but will increase the

> probiotics more.

> I can try emailing Andy...he may know like you said, if he went

> through this. Thank you again!

>

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>

> Funny you mention that. I breathed into the machine. I have reduce

> lung function..they believe from the phlegm or constricted airways or

> whatever.

> And yes, it's worse at night. I was given albuterol inhalers.

Albuterol will give temporary relief by opening up the air ways. It

does nothing to help in the long term. If they were concerned enough

to give you albuterol then they should give you the inhalers that

actually help (the ones that contain steroids - at very low doses that

help to heal the lungs).

They

> keep saying " maybe you have allergies " . I say, ok well maybe, but why

> do I have a fever off and on?

The fever is a sign of infection. Perhaps some of the other things

that you are taking (like cortisol? I can't remember your dose) are

masking the fever.

I carry all my cortisol fact sheets with me now in case I ever get an

infection I can show the doctors that cortisol masks the signs of

infection.

J

I am with you on the infection part.

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I did the machine test, sorry I don't where that reply went. I do have

reduced function but they thought it was from infection. Going through

my hx file here, they did note bronchial asthma (which they failed to

tell me they thought I had) in the 90's and I kept having bronchitis

and URI infections every year. The coughing is worse at night. I hack

up what looks like infected phlegm, it has the foulness to it. The

cough is a deep bark, I sound like a seal, spastic..I damn near wet my

pants I cough so hard. I am going back into the doctor today, because

I have been like this for a week now, and now I also have developed a

UTI.

Sadly my ear is inner. I do use garlic oil for ear problems, but it

hasn't touched this. It's fluid that can't get out likely due to

swollen tonsils. I suspect if they treat the bacterial infection, the

ear/sinus problem may resolve with it as it did in the past. I just

switched doctors and have seen this one once last week for the

tonsillitis, so going back in still sick to prompt for something to be

done. Also creeping up my HC for adrenals as we speak, since I think

my endocrine problems are part of why I keep getting infections.

I want to thank you for all the help. I appreciate it!

-- In frequent-dose-chelation , " "

wrote:

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>

>

> I really think it would be worth testing lung function to see if you

> have a touch of asthma. All that's involved is blowing in a machine

> that measures the volume of air expelled - if you can only find the

> doctor that has the machine. If there is asthma, treating it can help

> to prevent these infections from going on for so long, which helps to

> prevent secondary infections, and the treatment doesn't go on for life

> (like some people believe). (You didn't mention if the cough is worse

> at night - that's one sign of coughing asthma).

>

> The remedy I use for *external* ear infections is a mix of half

> vinegar and half ethanol, put a half teaspoon in the ear for about 5

> min, once or twice a day until the symptoms stop. It won't help with

> internal ear infections.

>

> I also think that adrenal support will help (maybe not to get rid of

> this one, but to prevent or help treat the next one).

>

> I have had at least one course of antibiotics per year for about 20

> years and a recent test showed that there are no antibiotic resistant

> genes in my normal flora (bacteria pass genes from one to another).

> Sure, there's no point using antibiotics to treat a virus, but it

> sounds like you are having secondary (bacterial) infections.

>

> Andy usually says to post the message in a group and send him the post

> number (as you probably already know).

>

> J

>

>

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In frequent-dose-chelation Jada wrote:

I did the machine test, sorry I don't where that reply went. I do have

reduced function but they thought it was from infection. Going through

my hx file here, they did note bronchial asthma (which they failed to

tell me they thought I had) in the 90's and I kept having bronchitis

and URI infections every year. The coughing is worse at night. I hack

up what looks like infected phlegm, it has the foulness to it. The

cough is a deep bark, I sound like a seal, spastic..I damn near wet my

pants I cough so hard. I am going back into the doctor today, because

I have been like this for a week now, and now I also have developed a

UTI.

---------I do believe there are times that we have to go for the antibiotics,

so hopefully the doctor will come through for you. But I would also try the

elderberry for sure for the lung/cough thing, and how about that product called

Mucinex? It might be worth a shot.----------Jackie

Sadly my ear is inner. I do use garlic oil for ear problems, but it

hasn't touched this. It's fluid that can't get out likely due to

swollen tonsils. I suspect if they treat the bacterial infection, the

ear/sinus problem may resolve with it as it did in the past.

------------I think you mentioned using oil of oregano before, but I thought

you said you drink it in water? When my sisters' and I use it, we put a couple

drops under our tongue, and let it absorb that way. My sister says she feels it

go up her ear tube and/or sinuses. I can feel it being absorbed also. You may

want to try this method. It is very strong tasting, and some people can't

tolerate it this way, but for whatever reason, I like taking it this

way.-----------Jackie

I just

switched doctors and have seen this one once last week for the

tonsillitis, so going back in still sick to prompt for something to be

done. Also creeping up my HC for adrenals as we speak, since I think

my endocrine problems are part of why I keep getting infections.

-----------Yes the HC may help alot. I had weak adrenals for years, not

knowing what it was, and I used to be sick all the time, and I had a hard time

shaking infections or they would reoccur. But like I said in my other post, I

don't know if I'm better now from HC or all the other stuff I'm taking for

immune support, but something is working! Illness is hard on your adrenals, so

the HC should definitely help.---------Jackie

I want to thank you for all the help. I appreciate it!

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I just came back from them. My pcp is out this week so I had to see

the NP. Not that this pcp would know history anyway, I have only been

seeing her a short time.

She said she thinks I had a cold (the tonsillitis) and now the lungs

are involved. So she gave me some med for the coughing. She said it

should pass soon, if not to call on friday. My urine was neg and they

thought that maybe the pain was caused by one of the cough meds. She

heard no wheezing and said my lungs sound clear. I do have swollen

lymphs in neck and is what is usual for a virus.

I don't know....anyway, I started on OLE yesterday and will keep

taking it along with gse, probiotics. The inhaler is useless at this

point, because I am not short of breath, nor do I wheeze. Just cough

ridiculously. Anyway...they were more interested in " when I was

diagnosed as hypothyroid since my chart said I was on Armour " . I made

up the story of " just recently " and told them of my Hashi's family and

they dropped the questions. Since I am " unofficial " . The lab seems to

think a T4 of .9 is normal. I don't.