- Re: A Way to Get DMPS (to help with dumping phase) -- UPDATE

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I was hoping to " gradually get better " over the past few months, but

I'm learning first hand that chelation progress is highly nonlinear.

So I think you guys are right -- I need to find something (supp or me)

for symptom relief in order for me to get through chelation long term,

especially since I'm trying to hold a job again.

But I've tried so many things in the past, with not much luck. I may

try going back on Adderall, which has helped to some degree in the past.

If at all possible, wouldn't it be better to avoid meds to avoid

placing any extra burden on the liver? That's been one of my

motivations for staying away from meds. Of course, it's a

cost-benefit analysis, so if they're needed, then they're needed.

What anti-seizure med are you referring to? I tried selegeline a few

years ago and have tried hydergine. Neither really seemed to help

much at all.

Thanks...

Darren

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> Hi Darren,

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> It sounds to me that you need to investigate some measures beyond

> supplements to alleviate your symptoms. Andy does mention lots of OTC

> and prescription possibilities in AI. It's tough for one of us to

> guess which ones you might need, especially over the internet. I

> realize it is also tough for you to figure out.

>

> One suggestion that I have is to consider some sort of abnormal brain

> electrical activity that may be contributing to the " horrific brain

> fog/mental dullness/inactivity in frontal cortex " . This is one

> problem that I had and was a major reason why I found chelation with

> DMPS or DMSA unbearable at first. Actually, I didn't chelate much for

> the whole first year after amalgam removal because that whole year was

> hell for me. Tests didn't pick up the problem, but my GP was willing

> to give a trial of an anti seizure med, and it was literally like

> turning the lights on. If I had only discovered that early on I would

> have been way, way better off. There is no way I would have ever been

> able to chelate without it. (To be honest, it was Andy who eventually

> figured it out for me).

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> I can't really tell if you need more adrenal support from what you

> have said or from your hair tests. The pattern is not a typical

> adrenal pattern, but it is not normal either.

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> When Andy said that mercury starts dumping out of organs 3 mo post

> amalgam removal he didn't say it starts dumping out of the body. When

> a person is as toxic as you and I are the natural clearance of mercury

> would be negligible. 12.5 mg doses of DMPS aren't going to increase

> that by a huge amount, just by a little bit. If that little bit is

> below the detection limit of the urine tests that you are doing, then

> it won't show up. I'm not surprised at all. One would actually expect

> the reference population to be able to excrete way more mercury

> naturally than we can simply because a random sample of them wouldn't

> have many people with the genetic predisposition to retain metals that

> we have, and wouldn't have the amounts of mercury in them that is

> further preventing excretion. I think that you need to forget about

> those urine tests. From your symptoms, history, and hair tests it is

> clear that you are metal toxic. DMPS will start to clear the metals.

> At a dose of 12.5 mg, it is going to be real slow, but at least it is

> moving out. There really is no other (safe) way. Once you forget

> about the urine tests you can start to think about what other problems

> are making chelation problematic for you. In a way your DC is likely

> partially right. Mercury poisoning is the underlying cause of all of

> your problems that needs to be resolved before you will ever get

> better, but there likely IS something else going on that needs to be

> addressed. My guess is that the something else is discussed in AI,

> and is waiting for you to discover.

>

> J

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