Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 In frequent-dose-chelation beigetable wrote: Does anyone have any thoughts on the following? In the chelation round I just finished, I started with half a day of DMSA before adding ALA. I was surprised that the DMSA made me feel good, including a brighter mood, and had almost no negative side effects. After adding ALA I felt the usual unpleasant effects of what I assume is mercury mobilization. I finished the round with several doses of DMSA only, and again started feeling good. I used 25 mg of each chelator every 1.5 hours daytime and 2 hours at night. ------------I felt really good on rounds when I first started chelating with DMSA alone. My hair test shows very low lead, so not sure if this was an issue or not, in how it made me feel. But I can relate to the feeling much better on round with DMSA alone.--------Jackie I had little prior experience with DMSA alone, but a few years ago I used DMPS alone extensively, with lots of unpleasant side effects, when I had lots of mercury in my body from recent amalgam removal and improper ALA usage; also, I was not taking all the supplements I am now. My recent hair test shows normal mineral transport and low toxics. A hair test from a few years ago after months of DMPS shows normal mineral transport (it was all-low before DMPS) and lead in low yellow. -------Are you a fast metabolizer, Ca/P ratio low? (I'm guessing you are, from your frequent dosing you do.) In this case, I believe Andy says that your toxic elements might show lower on your hair test than they really are in your body. And secondly, the supplements have probably helped to normalize your hair test, and the prior DMPS and ALA usage has probably lowered your body burden of mercury, and so now your biggest burden is in your brain, and this doesn't always show on a hair test.---------Jackie My take is: 1) I have lots of deep-pool mercury, but little shallow-pool, so ALA moves lots of mercury, but DMSA does not. ----------I agree, based on what you've said above. And ALA crosses the BBB and DMSA doesn't, so the ALA is starting to pull brain mercury, so hence, more side effects/symptoms.----------Jackie 2) I have some lead from growing up in an urban area during the leaded gasoline era. DMSA lowers the lead, making me feel good. -----------Also sounds very reasonable. With lead showing up in the yellow on your hair test, I would definitely continue using DMSA.----------Jackie 3) I may need a higher ratio of DMSA to ALA than 1:1 to deal with all the mercury that comes out with ALA. I feel worse with 12.5/12.5 than 25/25, but maybe this is because I need the higher amout of DMSA, not because I need all the ALA. Next time I may try 25 DMSA/10 ALA. -----------This also sounds very reasonable, and that's what I would have suggested, is to keep the DMSA dose the same and try lowering the ALA dose. Good plan. Let us know how it goes!--------Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Thanks for your responses. My hair tests all show Ca/P near > the middle of the range. Latest is 3.34. Nevertheless, I think I am a > fast metabolizer. I recently added oregano oil to my supplements (to > control yeast with DMSA) and don't seem to have any problem with it, > which is consistent with fast or normal phase 1. > --------- My Ca/P ratios are all over the place but when my dentist numbed me with novacaine this summer it wore off pretty quickly. He said it was because I had a fast metabolism and he had to give me another shot. Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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