Re: Need a push in the right direction

September 19, 2008

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> Felt I had to stop my husbands chelation for the time being.(because

> of weakness) Don't know if it was the right move.

> He doesn't seem to be getting any better..I know it hasn't been long

> enough but there must be something else Im doing wrong.

> I feel like his adrenals need to be supported better.

You are right. Everything below says he has a big-time adrenal

problem - the saliva test, the hair test, the weight loss, the pain -

he really needs a LOT more support than you are giving. ACE is not

enough for some of us. Pregnenolone can convert to cortisol, but he

likely needs a lot more than 25 mg. In Amalgam Illness, Andy suggests

up to 300 mg for men. Try slowly working up the dose and see if it

helps. I would also look for someone who can prescribe HC for him.

He takes

> Adrenal Cortex 150mg 3 times a day and I have him on all kinds of

> vitamin suppliments.

> He just seems to me to becoming weaker. He's been losing weight

> around 20-30lbs. His tremors are still there everyday as soon as he

> wakes up. His Pain (upper middle lower back) remain and even with 4-5

> percocet 10/325mg with roxicodone in between for BT pain, we still

> don't have a handle on it. He is on a antidepressant- Lexapro.

Take a look at Andy's suggestions for depression, since this will help

more than simply giving an antidepressant. For example, if he does

have serotonin problems (Lexapro is an SSRI and helps by increasing

serotonin levels), then he also needs (adequate) adrenal support - it

may help the Lexapro work better.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/15287

I

> recently added pregnenalone 25mg which he takes once a day.

> And he has taken the Diagnos-Tech's adrenal test back in Feb. with

> results that read: Cortisol AM 9 (13-24) Noon 6 (5-10)Evening 1 (3-8)

> and midnight 1 (1-4) His DHEA was 7 normal (3-10). The Estradiol is

> 15 (1-15) Progesterone 119 (5-95) and his Free Testosterone 46 (50-80)

> His Thyroid results recently last week are: Total T4- 8.1 (6.1-12.2)

> T3UP-38.6 (32.0-48.4) FTI- 7.8 (5.9-13.1)TSH-0.85 (0.34-5.60) Free T4-

> 0.87 (0.58-1.26)Free T3- 327 (230-420) and Thyroid Peroxidase

> Antibodies- <10 (<35)

> All his other labs CBC,Comp Chem profile, Lipids look ok.

> I saw the page " The adrenal restoration plan " and I guess I could up

> things like biotin and zinc and try to find him Isocort or something

> but I really don't understand how he is having this excruciating pain

> thats up and down his back. This is a symptom no one really talks

> about on this forum and I can't understand why he would have this

> when no one else is. This pain is what is effecting his job and our

> family and it came on at the same time all the rest of these symptoms

I don't know why it isn't discussed more, but pain can certainly go

along with mercury poisoning. Adrenal support should help. More

magnesium is also worth trying.

> that suggest mercury poisoning happened.

> He has met counting rule 3 and 4 on his hair test back in Feb. He is

> listed as Hair Test #172

The hair test indicates borderline high copper. Have you used the

copper reduction strategies that Andy suggests? Copper and mercury

are synergistic toxins - if you reduce the copper, it may help the

mercury symptoms.

> And we are doing Dmsa 25mg every 4 hours, 3 on/4 off. I haven't added

> the ALA yet because he is afraid that he still has a body burden of

> mercury and he is afraid that whatever is in his body will go to his

> brain. His exposure was Last December of an improper amalgam removal.

> He is also the father of an Autistic child.

>

> Back in Feb his temperatures had taken a nose dive. They still

> haven't come up yet. But in the last couple of months he has been

> having hot flashes really bad where he will sweat profusly but his

> temps will still be low. This afternoon he came home from work and

> told me that at 7am his temp was in the 96's and at 10am it was 97.9,

> but then he got a hot flash at 10:10am and his temp was 97.8. Then

> later at noon it was 96.9.

> Im not going to be able to sell the doctor on hydrocortisone for him

> and he has to wait another month to see a doctor (the only one) that

> deals with Thyroid Syndrome.

Please, please do not do s thyroid protocol without getting him

on enough adrenal support first. I did this and it led to a huge setback.

> Does anyone think I should go ahead and try him on ALA yet?

I would not wait too long, but he may tolerate it better if you

support his adrenals first.

Its the

> one thing alot people keep talking about that has made them better.

> He's only been on less than 15 rounds of dmsa so far.

> Does anyone have any sources for hydergine, isocort, etc.

You can easily buy Isocort online. Try doing a search here:

http://www.google.com/prdhp?hl=en & tab=wf

Personally, I think he will do better on HC, but if you need to use

some Isocort until you can find a doctor to get the HC, then try it.

It may or may not help. You could also try giving a lot more ACE,

especially in the morning, but that doesn't work for everyone. The

pregnenolone might help too, but he likely needs more.

> I don't know if I need reassurance or a new game plan.

The first thing you said is you feel he needs more adrenal support. I

think you are right. It is probably his greatest need right now and

it will make a big difference.

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But its very

> stressful knowing he depends on me to make this all better. I need

> help.

>

> Carie

>

September 19, 2008

Carie

also; i had huge weight loss, 200 to 160 pounds under bad protocol

(cilantro & sulphur foods) which created a lot of mercury movement as I

understand it...I believe bad protocol also crashed my adrenals

u may want to avoid all sulphur foods and see what happens...eggs,

cruciferous veggies, kale,

September 19, 2008

Hi Carie

Andy recommends glycine for tremor , and a ketogenic diet page

128 of AI if you missed it..

In my case if gut is bad, tremor is worse. THings I do for

gut are candida diet, things to help my gallbladder flow{

glycine, milk thistle , taurine{ just experimenting with this} and

liver support for me is sulfur and sulphates and NAC. Stomach

support is sauerkraut and enzymes and hydrochloric acid.I would

not do the ALA if his gut is one of the root imbalances as

it will get worse with it. ALA takes mercury out of through the

gut.

The pregnenolone also helped me with weakness which exaberates

tremor.

Nanci

September 19, 2008

Also bad digestion means watch for sensitivities like gluten,

corn, milk, and anything unfortunatley goes. At one point I

craved , was addicted to garlic.. and yep I was sensitive to

it. Even foods can have a similar reaction and raise

something that gives us a temporary high but in the end a

crash down.

Nanci

September 19, 2008

I made a mistake, his is hair test #176, 38yr old male. His hair test

was done in February '09. His cracked filling was removed in Dec '08.

The remaining filling of which he had 4 more were removed properly in

April. His first symptom of feeling something wasn't right was the

end of the summer in'07- hand tremors that would come and go. Then it

just snowballed from there.

Im still reading!

Carie

>

> Are you sure 172 is the right hair test? The date of the test and

of

> amalgam removal are different from your description below.

>

> I do not know what the likelihood is that mercury in the nervous

> system is the cause of these symptoms.

>

> According to Cutler, ALA is the only way to get mercury out of the

> nervous system, DMSA alone does not get it out, and it is normally

> safe to add ALA 3 months after last exposure to mercury.

>

September 19, 2008

I am one who has had about 18 years of serious pain. I don't talk

about it much. Pain is common with metal poisoning.

Your husband needs physiological doses of cortisol first.

J

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