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Trouble with ala can be other things. consider if you have any amalgam

tattoos or if maybe your blood levels of Hg are still too high. Not

enough of the right other supplements, etc.

But for hormone issues...

The saliva test is good for adrenal and sex hormones. Thyroid is not

as reliable and should be done by blood. You want saliva cortisol

levels, serum cortisol, serum TSH, Free T3, Free T4, and thyroid

antibodies. As a baseline anyway. ZRT and Diagnos Tech are good places

for saliva testing. You can purchase them through Canary Club.

Don't despair..it took me 16 months to use ala....

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> Can somebody please help me? What tests do I really need for this?

> Will canary test adrenals/thyroid/estrogen/etc? Or do I need more

> than one test?

>

> After 6 months I still have trouble with 6 mgs of ala.

>

> Have battled viruses all year and joint pain/muscle cramps/fatigue is

> horrible. Oh and my moods are worse.

>

> Thanks,

> Val

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> Trouble with ala can be other things. consider if you have any

amalgam

> tattoos or if maybe your blood levels of Hg are still too high. Not

> enough of the right other supplements, etc.

>

> But for hormone issues...

> The saliva test is good for adrenal and sex hormones. Thyroid is

not

> as reliable and should be done by blood. You want saliva cortisol

> levels, serum cortisol, serum TSH, Free T3, Free T4, and thyroid

> antibodies. As a baseline anyway. ZRT and Diagnos Tech are good

places

> for saliva testing. You can purchase them through Canary Club.

>

> Don't despair..it took me 16 months to use ala....

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I had a complete dental revision in 2003 at a huggins clinic. Root

canals pulled etc etc. I don't know how I could still have any

amalgam in my mouth? They even caught amalgam left over from

another dentist who did a shoddy job on the first quadrant. What is

an amalgam tatoo?

I had to stop this a few rounds early because I was getting

extremely upset. How could I have mercury still in my blood?? I'm

not saying I don't, but I spent a fortune -- thousands and thousands

of dollars getting ALL of it out from supposed experts who know

where it is all hidden.

But not being able to tolerate 6mgs is concerning after so long.

Val

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Amalgam Tattoos are grey staining on teeth from where amalgam used to

be. I too spent a fortune getting my amalgams removed by a Huggins

dentist...didn't matter. They can only remove the actual amalgam and

unless they drill away tooth to remove the grey or pull them all...if

you have any grey staining from where they used to be...you have

tattoos. I had to double check this with a light and dental mirror.

Not everyone does...if your amalgams were small...you might not. I had

a lot of rather large ones...and my Huggins dentist told me unless I

pulled those teeth out...the staining is there, nothing to do about

it. It's from where the mercury migrated into the dentin tubules of

the teeth. The could not remove it without drilling away what little

was left of the tooth. And I would lose those teeth.

Anyway...What exactly did these experts do to clear you body of

mercury?? I had read of the Huggins clinic...but dont' recall exactly

what they do other than nutritional stuff. Can that even be done

without using dmsa, or dmps? Have you tried using the ala with dmsa

to see if it reduced the side effects? Just another suggestion.

By upset on rounds do you mean adrenal symptoms or ala/mercury symptoms.

I know that for me 16 months after removal..my levels were still too

high. And finally after 16 rounds of dmsa..I could tolerate 5mg of ala

but only for two days of the round. Then I had to finish up with dmsa.

I was not typical at all to what most people report with ala. My dd

was able to use ala three months after removal...not me.

And for even longer than the 16 months, if I handled ala to mix it for

my kid...it would give me headaches. And it's been 2 years....I was

told that this indicates redistribution of mercury into the brain. But

it could be other things too. Which is baffling to me as well at this

point.

I will assume there have been no vaccines used since 2003?? These

contain mercury and count as recent exposure. Have to mention it, some

people do not know this. Just throwing ideas around...sometimes that

sparks other ideas and leads to answers...

I am not sure how you could have blood levels too high still..unless

their protocols did not really remove enough of it.

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> ==========================

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> I had a complete dental revision in 2003 at a huggins clinic. Root

> canals pulled etc etc. I don't know how I could still have any

> amalgam in my mouth? They even caught amalgam left over from

> another dentist who did a shoddy job on the first quadrant. What is

> an amalgam tatoo?

>

> I had to stop this a few rounds early because I was getting

> extremely upset. How could I have mercury still in my blood?? I'm

> not saying I don't, but I spent a fortune -- thousands and thousands

> of dollars getting ALL of it out from supposed experts who know

> where it is all hidden.

>

> But not being able to tolerate 6mgs is concerning after so long.

>

> Val

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> Anyway...What exactly did these experts do to clear you body of

> mercury?? I had read of the Huggins clinic...but dont' recall

exactly

> what they do other than nutritional stuff. Can that even be done

> without using dmsa, or dmps? Have you tried using the ala with

dmsa

> to see if it reduced the side effects? Just another suggestion.

-----------They pulled alot of teeth, I just had a bridge for the

bottom quadrant and will need another for the top. I checked in the

mirror and I didn't see anything that looked like an amalgam tatoo -

so I think I'm ok. I'm pretty confident all the mercury is out of my

mouth.

> By upset on rounds do you mean adrenal symptoms or ala/mercury

symptoms.

-----------Well, the round started with me getting a jolt, I felt

kind of hyper. Then it got rougher with my body feeling like all

the moisture was going away (?), muscle cramping, then on the last

day I felt very irritible, hopeless, depressed, mad...argh. So I

stopped a few doses before I was done with day 3. I take

supplements 2x a day. Swallowing alot of pills is hard for me.

Anyway, I felt almost immediate relief when I stopped the round. I

do have adrenal/thyroid issues. I still don't know if I have both

or just one of them and I don't know which one? Probably both. One

doc told me thyroid was fine, another said my pituitary was messed

up causing thyroid issues. Both said adrenals needed support. Not

good about taking support -- again so many pills to swallow.

Anyway, all the suffering made me contact an endo who was

recommended by Natural Thyroid group - so hopefully I'll get back on

support full-time.

> I know that for me 16 months after removal..my levels were still

too

> high. And finally after 16 rounds of dmsa..I could tolerate 5mg of

ala

> but only for two days of the round. Then I had to finish up with

dmsa.

-----I was taking dmps with ala but my dmps ran out. dmsa

aggravates yeast which I have alot of so not sure about taking

that. Need to call doc to see if he'll renew my script for dmps.

I was not typical at all to what most people report with ala. My dd

> was able to use ala three months after removal...not me.

----------Yeah, I hear ya. I'm definitely one of the " sensitive

ones " too. I really think all this is generally harder on women

because of all our hormone issues.

> And for even longer than the 16 months, if I handled ala to mix it

for

> my kid...it would give me headaches. And it's been 2 years....I was

> told that this indicates redistribution of mercury into the brain.

But

> it could be other things too. Which is baffling to me as well at

this

> point.

---------------Sorry to hear that. I've never gotten headaches with

ala - just feel like an emotional wreck towards the end of round. I

do think I need another chelator with ala.

I will assume there have been no vaccines used since 2003??

-----------NO! I will never get another vaccination again. Never

had the flu shot either.

> I am not sure how you could have blood levels too high

still..unless

> their protocols did not really remove enough of it.

---------Huggins believes in balancing body chemistry with

nutrition - frankly, I think the guy is half nuts/poisoned still.

Very, very into conspiracy theories, claims " someone " tried to kill

him...yeesh. He snapped at me during the post removal " seminar "

which cost $5000! Yeah I was so gullible. I asked a question he

didn't like and he yelled " what planet are you from? " So, of course

I said Mercury. He has no clue how to use dmps/dmsa - told us to

use dmsa 3 times a day or some other crazy protocal, can't remember.

I did get suckered into the dmps injections/challenge tests so they

may have messed me up. I have gotten significantly worse since

removal so something went wrong somewhere. However, I do feel better

than I did the last 2 years.

I guess if I had to guess what is going on, it would be

adrenal/thyroid issues and the residual fallout from dmps

injections/IVs. After several years of reading these forums and

following Andy Cutler, I'm convinced he is the authority on heavy

metal removal and I would not trust anybody else. He's been so

right about so many things, that I have verified, and I have yet to

hear of 1 person severely,permanently damaged by his protocal.

Can't say that about the others. Plus, he did it on himself so he

knows what we're going through.

--One thing I noticed at the beginning of this ala round was that it

felt like something cool was draining inside of my head. Crazy stuff.

Thanks for your help - just keep plugging away.

Val

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