Re: Question about cycle length

[Guest guest]

I plan to take as many days off ALA as on because I've had apparent

copper toxicity.

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> So I'm wondering... why do we take days off?

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[Guest guest]

FOr those with stressed organs , people who have been ill for

longer periods of time and those who need more help, chelating

is very stressful.. Chelating means the kidnesys and liver have

that much more to work on , Some of us cannot do it until we

get the supplemental supports and we need to watch the

length of time we chelate.

I personally have had bad experience with expecting too much of my

body.> === kidney and liver problems.. Sure I want to get rid of

thees metals.. but I am not in ocntrol .... It is best to listen

to your body.... and always stick to that when it comes to

chelating.

nanci

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

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> Hi. I just finished my first round of DMSA a few days ago (yipee!!!)

> and I'm wondering about how to schedule my future rounds. I'll be

> taking ALA as well for those (I had my fillings out about 3 years ago).

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> Some people say to take as many days off as you do on. Andy says in

> his book in one place to do what works for you, maybe that's 10 days

> on and 4 days off, maybe it's 7 days on and 7 days off, maybe 3 days

> on and 11 days off.

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> I'd rather take more days on at a time to get the Hg out of me faster.

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> So I'm wondering... why do we take days off?

There are several reasons. Chelation, even properly done, will cause

some stress on your body and days OFF are needed to heal the damage.

Added reasons are that DMSA is hard on the liver and may cause

neutropenia. In the case of ALA, reduced excretion of copper, zinc and

methylmercury are reasons to recommend days OFF. It seems that in

practice this is not an very much an issue.

Some people are able to chelate continuously using DMPS.

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> 1) Daily DMSA intake causes yeast problems for some people?

Yes, but not only with DMSA. Lipoic acid also causes yeast. For many

of us, controlling yeast is a must in order to be able to chelate.

> 2) Daily ALA causes reduced copper intake?

I think that ALA only reduces copper excretion, not absorption.

Taking zinc or molybdenum will reduce absorption of copper in your gut.

> 3) Otherwise you're volunteering as a guinnea pig since doing on-off

> cycles is how most people have done this process successfully.

> 4) Chelators suck the minerals out of your body and you need regular

> time off to replenish the lost minerals.

It seems that mineral depletion is not an issue during chelation, at

least using DMSA, DMPS and ALA.

> 5) ???

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> I heard somewhere that reason 4 applies more to EDTA than it does to

> DMSA or ALA.

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> My first round I went 8 days and added ALA for the last 3 days. I

> felt better while chelating and felt crappy the day I stopped. I was

> taking 25mg of each chelator every three hours around the clock.

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Probably you will feel better if you start the round with ALA + DMSA

and end the round with one or two doses of DMSA only.

> I apologize if this has been asked before, but can anyone share ideas

> about why to take time off, and why a person might take two weeks off

> versus three days off? Does it depend on what works for the

> individual? What signs do we look for?

I think you should be OFF until you feel recovered. For example I need

4 or 5 days after a round of ten days, but this is pretty individual.

Fatigue, brain fog, emotional side effects, etc. is what normally

forces you to stop. Experimenting a little bit you will be able to

stop some time before the very bad side effects fall over yourself.

Hope this may help,

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> Surely if I was chelating an autistic child over the weekends that

> would necessitate a certain schedule, but what about for us adults?

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> thanks for your time,

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[Guest guest]

I noticed that my kidneys seemed to have to work harder while

chelating. At least, as soon as I was taking DMSA I was having to pee

much more frequently than I usually do. It seems like that could

involve more " work " for those little guys.

It's also nice to spend a few days without getting up at 2am and 5am

to take pills.

>Chelating means the kidnesys and liver have

> that much more to work on