Re: Supplement Question----lithium orotate

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> Hi Everyone!

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> I just had a question about supplemental lithium orotate. I currently

> give my 9 yo dd 4.8mg a day. When we're on rounds, she's fine with that

> dose. However, when we come off rounds, she's an emotional basket-case.

> Cries over anything; takes everything very personally; gets easily

> depressed.

Are the symptoms just for a day or so after the round, or ongoing

for the entire off-round period?

> Would it be ok to give her more than 4.8mg? She weighs 65

> pounds. I am thinking give her 1 cap(4.8mg) in the am. And later in the

> day, give her another 2.4mg(half cap) Does anyone have any advise on

> this? Is that ok? Is it too much for her age/weight?

Here is what Andy says:

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/156474.html

I am an adult about twice your daughter's weight and I take six

capsules per day of VRP lithium orotate, so sounds like you could

try up to three caps.

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> Thanks in advance,

> Summer

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> Are the symptoms just for a day or so after the round, or ongoing

> for the entire off-round period?

-----That's really tough for me to answer. Last week was our first

round. Her behavior was so good on round! Then the day after the

round came, and she seemed to melt down over anything. It lasted

close to 3 days. It was similar to how she's always acted, prior to

chelation.

However, her behavior, in general, has improved dramatically since

being on Lithium. But, like I said, the lithium improvements were

noticeable before her first round. Now, after one round under our

belt, the lithium doesn't seem to be affecting her like it had been.

> I am an adult about twice your daughter's weight and I take six

> capsules per day of VRP lithium orotate, so sounds like you could

> try up to three caps.

>

> --

----I think I will try 2 caps tmr. Then see how she responds.

I wonder if I have her on enough ACE? I know that chelation is hard

on the adrenals. She already had noticeable adrenal fatigue. She

takes 125mg, 2x's a day. Do you think I should increase that as well?

>

> > Thanks in advance,

> > Summer

> >

>

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> > Are the symptoms just for a day or so after the round, or ongoing

> > for the entire off-round period?

>

> -----That's really tough for me to answer. Last week was our first

> round. Her behavior was so good on round! Then the day after the

> round came, and she seemed to melt down over anything. It lasted

> close to 3 days. It was similar to how she's always acted, prior to

> chelation.

If the 3 days of problem behaviors resolved before starting a new

round, then what you saw was " end of round side effects " and she

would do better with a lower dose on the next round.

It's common to have an " off " day on the first day after a round.

When it goes on for three days it suggests the dose was too high.

> However, her behavior, in general, has improved dramatically since

> being on Lithium. But, like I said, the lithium improvements were

> noticeable before her first round. Now, after one round under our

> belt, the lithium doesn't seem to be affecting her like it had been.

I would try a lower chelator dose first. It pays to change one thing

at a time and to choose the thing most likely to be causing the

problem. It sounds to me like the chelator dose is the most likely

source of the problem behavior.

> > I am an adult about twice your daughter's weight and I take six

> > capsules per day of VRP lithium orotate, so sounds like you could

> > try up to three caps.

> >

> > --

>

>

> ----I think I will try 2 caps tmr. Then see how she responds.

>

> I wonder if I have her on enough ACE? I know that chelation is hard

> on the adrenals. She already had noticeable adrenal fatigue. She

> takes 125mg, 2x's a day. Do you think I should increase that as well?

The symptoms do sound very adrenal, but the stress her adrenals are

suffering is the stress of redistribution at the end of the round.

Reducing the chelator dose can solve the problem. If that doesn't

take care of it, then it would make sense to increase the ACE.

I forgot to ask what dose you started with? Note that some adults

find 12.5 mg too much and they must start even lower, say 6.25 mg.

For an adult that's a good deal less than 1/8 mg per pound. So don't

hesitate to try a very low dose in the interest of keeping life a

lot simpler and more comfortable for both of you.

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> > > Thanks in advance,

> > > Summer

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