Re: ALA trouble - need advise / encouragement

[Guest guest]

> Do not know what the

> person with high cysteine does as they do not do well with

> NAC..

>

>

Cysteine is one amino acid in glutathione. People who are already

high in cysteine can add the other amino acids - glutamine and glycine

- plus magnesium (which we already take anyway) to push the pathway

towards glutathione production. (p 43 og AI).

[Guest guest]

Because of the digestive problems and yeast you may want to look at

dietary interventions. Diet is not a one size fits all thing - each

individual will have specific needs depending on their situation, but

there are some similarities that many of us have.

See the files in the files section:

Diet - How to pick the right one for your kid.txt

Foods high in readily available sulfur (thiol) groups.doc

Neutrophils, Yeast and DMSA.txt

Sulfur foods feed yeast - that is one thing to keep in mind.

Try alka seltzer gold or the recipe for it in the files section for

brain fog.

Don't feel discouraged! I have been chelating with DMPS for about 2

years and I'm just getting started with ALA now (for different reasons

than yours, but I did have to find out about A LOT of problems that I

have and correct them with diet, supplements, medications)

J

>

> ALA is getting me really frustrated.

>

> It is now about 18 months since I had my last filling removed, and I

> have been trough about 40 rounds

> of (mostly) DMSA. Haven't managed to raise the dosage to more than 33

> mg (every 3. hour) due to GI problems.

> Had to stop for a couple of months this summer to fight yeast. This

> helped.

>

> So, 4 weeks ago I desiced to try ALA again. Have tried several times

> earlier, and it has always made me

> feel so much worse that I have either stopped the ALA mid-round and

> continued with DMSA only, and/or done

> several rounds of DMSA before I have dared to try ALA again. My last

> try with ALA is more than 6 months ago.

>

> This time I felt ok (a bit more fategued) during round and the first

> week after. Then things started going downhill,

> and I have been struggeling since. More fategued, more visionary

> problems, brain fog (which hasn't really been a

> problem before), the ringing in the ears is back, dizziness, nausea,

> burning muscles etc.

>

> Feels like I'm moving Hg into the brain / CNS....

>

> Will I still have to do alot more rounds of DMSA ?

>

> Eager to get started with ALA and can use all the advise I can get on

> how to handle this.

> I'm taking most of the supplements listed in AI. I'm not doing

> anything for my adrenals; saliva test 'ok'.

>

> - Kyrre

>

[Guest guest]

How much glutamine and glycine is a normal amount ?

Could I take glutathione instead ?

A MD told me to take NAC, but I haven't dared due to the possible

sulphur issue.

- Kyrre

>

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:52 PM

> To: <frequent-dose-chelation >

> Subject: Re: ALA trouble - need advise /

> encouragement

>

> > You mentioned getting more digestive problems with ALA..

> > nausea, muscle fatigue goes along with what I

> > experienced ,This was because ALA removes glutathione from

the

> > liver.. pg 204 AI>... My gallbladder/liver crashed with

> > nausea. For me phosphaytidylcholine , and NAC brought me

back.

> > The glutathione connection is a biggey for me,, makes my life

> > lovely with high doses of NAC, etc. Do not know what the

> > person with high cysteine does as they do not do well with

> > NAC..

>

> ===============This is what they do according to Andy, Nanci , as

NAC is

> high sulphur.

>

> In a message on the Frequent Dose Chelation group Andy Cutler says:

> " I estimate that 33-50 % of mercury toxic people have elevated

cysteine. If

> you have elevated cysteine and you want to convert some

glutathione, take

> 2:1 weight ratio of glutamine and glycine and your body will do the

> rest. " Please read this link that includes information from Dr

Cutler on

> sulfur, cysteine levels and other important information related to

this

> subject.

>

>

http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/sulfur_sulphur_foods.htm

l

>

> This is some of the best advice for people who do not do well with

sulphur

> foods and supp's

> Hope it also helps you Kyrre

> Kai

>

>

> >

> > nanci

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Glutamine 1-4 grams....

Glycine for nausea 1-3 gm.. or

glycine for digestive tract 1-10 gm.

glycine for tremor.. 2-20gm

In frequent-dose-chelation , " kyrrefoerli "

wrote:

>

> How much glutamine and glycine is a normal amount ?

> Could I take glutathione instead ?

>

> A MD told me to take NAC, but I haven't dared due to the possible

> sulphur issue.

>

> - Kyrre

>

>

> >

> > --------------------------------------------------

> > From: " nanciwell " <nanciwell@>

> > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:52 PM

> > To: <frequent-dose-chelation >

> > Subject: Re: ALA trouble - need

advise /

> > encouragement

> >

> > > You mentioned getting more digestive problems with ALA..

> > > nausea, muscle fatigue goes along with what I

> > > experienced ,This was because ALA removes glutathione

from

> the

> > > liver.. pg 204 AI>... My gallbladder/liver crashed with

> > > nausea. For me phosphaytidylcholine , and NAC brought me

> back.

> > > The glutathione connection is a biggey for me,, makes my

life

> > > lovely with high doses of NAC, etc. Do not know what the

> > > person with high cysteine does as they do not do well

with

> > > NAC..

> >

> > ===============This is what they do according to Andy, Nanci , as

> NAC is

> > high sulphur.

> >

> > In a message on the Frequent Dose Chelation group Andy Cutler

says:

> > " I estimate that 33-50 % of mercury toxic people have elevated

> cysteine. If

> > you have elevated cysteine and you want to convert some

> glutathione, take

> > 2:1 weight ratio of glutamine and glycine and your body will do

the

> > rest. " Please read this link that includes information from Dr

> Cutler on

> > sulfur, cysteine levels and other important information related

to

> this

> > subject.

> >

> >

>

http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/sulfur_sulphur_foods.htm

> l

> >

> > This is some of the best advice for people who do not do well

with

> sulphur

> > foods and supp's

> > Hope it also helps you Kyrre

> > Kai

> >

> >

> > >

> > > nanci

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >