best remedy for tired adrenals is rest? ?

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation robin wrote:

1 more conceptual question: if a person's adrenals are severely taxed,

isn't resting, sleep, the best remedy? Isn't the addition of

adrenal " helpers " tantamount to kicking a dead horse?

---------Yes, rest and sleep are very important for tired adrenals. Going to

bed by 10pm and sleeping in till 9am (as often as you can) is recommended. And

when I went to see and she put me on a HC taper, she warned me to

still take it easy, and not to over-do-it, even when I was feeling good.

So I believe in some cases, adequate rest is probably enough to heal tired

adrenals. But in severe cases, more interventions are needed, and for some of

us, without " helpers " , we wouldn't get off the couch

But you are also correct in thinking that by taking " helpers " , if a person

keeps pushing themselves too hard, their adrenals will never heal, and they will

probably continue to get worse.-----------Jackie

That's an extreme example but my gut feeling the past 20 years of CFS

has been to " try " my best to rest and nourish and " fan the coals " of

the adrenals rather than " stoke the fire " with things like astragalus

or HC or ACE.. I'm still having trouble groking that part of the

protocol...

------------If your adrenals aren't in too bad of shape, then rest and

supplements may be enough to heal them. But some people's adrenals are so worn

out, they just can't recover and cannot produce no where near enough cortisol

for the person to function. Cortisol is absolutely essential to life. Without

it, you die. And we often talk about the connection with thyroid, that you need

adequate cortisol for your thyroid hormone to get into your cells. So that's

why we always stress treating adrenals before thyroid.

As has said, neither too much nor too little cortisol is good for

you. That's why we talk about taking physiological doses, which is usually

around 20mg, which is *part* of what your adrenals would make each day, it's not

a total replacement dose, so your adrenals still have to do some work. This

just allows them to not to have to work so hard, so they have a chance to rest

and hopefully heal, and can hopefully function on their own again some day.

When I first tried Isocort a couple years ago, I was amazed! It was like

someone flipped a switch on! It felt like I had hit the jackpot! So it can

make an amazing difference, when you really need it.---------Jackie

Aren't the adrenals tired for a reason? I have no idea of how this

stuff works but would love to know the basic concepts behind the

instructions if you'd be so kind.

-----------I really suggest you do some reading on the subject then. I

believe we have some links in the links sections, and in a recent post about the

7 stages of adrenal fatigue too.

The book, " The Safe Uses of Cortisol " by Jefferies, explains why physiological

doses of cortisol are safe to take long term. (It's a very expensive book, see

if you can get it at a library.)

And this book, " Adrenal Fatigue, the 21st Century Stress Syndrome " by ,

explains really well what adrenal fatigue is, what causes it, etc. It is very

reasonable at amazon.com.

Emotional and physical stress are both hard on your adrenals, and all these

different stresses in your life are cumulative, and finally something breaks the

camel's back, and your adrenals just can't bounce back anymore. And some people

have weaker adrenals to begin with, so it may not take as much for them to have

problems, than someone with stronger adrenals. And of course, being toxic, is

stress and is also hard on your adrenals.--------Jackie

thanks,

~robin

[Guest guest]

Robin - The adrenal problems we have are on the whole, central. That

is, they originate in the brain rather than in the organs. The way

mercury affects the brain, we are able to make adrenaline, but not

cortisol. So, pushing yourself has the tendency to push you into

adrenaline production, without your being able to produce any cortisol

to help you recover. So in that sense, yes, it's best to rest; but, if

you can do something about the lack of cortisol, then you should be able

to tolerate some stress - problem is, it's then easy to overdo it when

you're feeling good (or, at least, better).

Dave.

Posted by: " robin " grainwreck@...

Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:05 pm (PDT)

1 more conceptual question: if a person's adrenals are severely taxed,

isn't resting, sleep, the best remedy? Isn't the addition of

adrenal " helpers " tantamount to kicking a dead horse?

That's an extreme example but my gut feeling the past 20 years of CFS

has been to " try " my best to rest and nourish and " fan the coals " of

the adrenals rather than " stoke the fire " with things like astragalus

or HC or ACE.. I'm still having trouble groking that part of the

protocol...

Aren't the adrenals tired for a reason? I have no idea of how this

stuff works but would love to know the basic concepts behind the

instructions if you'd be so kind.

thanks,

~robin