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Jo Ann,

Such good news!! I'm so happy that you are finding such a big difference on the oxygen. It feels like a miracle doesn't it? But if you think about it what we were doing before we got the oxygen was like trying to get our cars to run without gasoline. A car needs fuel to run and humans need oxygen to live. Since our lungs can't process enough from the atmosphere we need supplemental.

And yes I've left the house without it, you are not the only one. I've actually gotten in the car and driven all the way to the store before I realized my mistake. This happened several times in the beginning, not so much now. Although I have tried to leave the house still attached to my concentrator. Not too bright huh?

I'll also echo what the others have said about using the O2 when you sleep. If you need it during the day, it's very likely you need it at night. Ask your doctor for an overnight oximeter and that will tell the tale for sure.

Beth

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To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:13:35 AMSubject: New Best Friend

I just started on 02 2 weeks ago. I feel soo much better that I call it my New Best Friend. Right now my Dr. is still trying to find out how much 02 I need and they are still adjusting it. I started on 2 lpm w/exertion, now it has been raised to 4 lpm w/exertion. feel so much beter now, I have more energy, I'm not so tired anymore. Now when I go to Pulmonary Rehab my sats stay in the 90's.I want to thank everyone of you who suggested I call my Dr. myself instead of waiting until my PR was over and they sent the report to my Dr. I still have 2 weeks of PR yet, this means I got a 4 week jump on them. THANK YOU. I still have the problem that I forget to put my 02 on in he morning. I will get up in the morning an start doing things around the house and realize that I'm having trouble breathing then I will remember my 02. Sometimes I even go away from the house and forget to take it, then I have to go home and get it. Soon, hopefully, I

will remember it all the time. Did anyone else have this problem when they were on 02 w/exertion only? Have a nice day everyone. Me and my Best Friend are off for the day.Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

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> I just started on 02 2 weeks ago. I feel soo much better that I call it my

New Best Friend. Right now my Dr. is still trying to find out how much 02 I

need and they are still adjusting it. I started on 2 lpm w/exertion, now it has

been raised to 4 lpm w/exertion. feel so much beter now, I have more energy,

I'm not so tired anymore. Now when I go to Pulmonary Rehab my sats stay in the

90's.

>

> I want to thank everyone of you who suggested I call my Dr. myself instead of

waiting until my PR was over and they sent the report to my Dr. I still have 2

weeks of PR yet, this means I got a 4 week jump on them. THANK YOU.

>

> I still have the problem that I forget to put my 02 on in he morning. I will

get up in the morning an start doing things around the house and realize that

I'm having trouble breathing then I will remember my 02. Sometimes I even go

away from the house and forget to take it, then I have to go home and get it.

Soon, hopefully, I will remember it all the time. Did anyone else have this

problem when they were on 02 w/exertion only?

> Have a nice day everyone. Me and my Best Friend are off for the day.

>

> Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

>

Thank You again everyone. I was Dx in Aug. 08 with Sleep Apnea. I have a CPAP

machine. I asked my Dr if I should be using 02 at night also and they told me

No. Once again I will take your advice and call my Dr. tommorrow and ask again

if I should be using 02 at night with my CPAP.

Oh how I wish that all doctors would get with the same program and treat

everyone the same so that we wouldn't have to tell our doctors when we need

something, they should know, they are the ones that went to school to become a

doctor.

Bruce; no I don't have an oximeter. I had one but my Granddaughters bit off the

button. I used to use it and I would tell my Dr how low my sats were dropping

and he always said that wasn't possible because they weren't that low when I was

in the office. I kind of quit using it because he told me it probably wasn't

right. I have since proven to him that it was right. I am trying to buy

another one.

Could someone please tell me how to set up my signature so that it comes up

automately so I don't have to type it everytime I post.

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> > I just started on 02 2 weeks ago. I feel soo much better that I call it my

New Best Friend. Right now my Dr. is still trying to find out how much 02 I

need and they are still adjusting it. I started on 2 lpm w/exertion, now it has

been raised to 4 lpm w/exertion. feel so much beter now, I have more energy,

I'm not so tired anymore. Now when I go to Pulmonary Rehab my sats stay in the

90's.

> >

> > I want to thank everyone of you who suggested I call my Dr. myself instead

of waiting until my PR was over and they sent the report to my Dr. I still have

2 weeks of PR yet, this means I got a 4 week jump on them. THANK YOU.

> >

> > I still have the problem that I forget to put my 02 on in he morning. I

will get up in the morning an start doing things around the house and realize

that I'm having trouble breathing then I will remember my 02. Sometimes I even

go away from the house and forget to take it, then I have to go home and get it.

Soon, hopefully, I will remember it all the time. Did anyone else have this

problem when they were on 02 w/exertion only?

> > Have a nice day everyone. Me and my Best Friend are off for the day.

> >

> > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

> >

>

> Thank You again everyone. I was Dx in Aug. 08 with Sleep Apnea. I have a CPAP

machine. I asked my Dr if I should be using 02 at night also and they told me

No. Once again I will take your advice and call my Dr. tommorrow and ask again

if I should be using 02 at night with my CPAP.

> Oh how I wish that all doctors would get with the same program and treat

everyone the same so that we wouldn't have to tell our doctors when we need

something, they should know, they are the ones that went to school to become a

doctor.

> Bruce; no I don't have an oximeter. I had one but my Granddaughters bit off

the button. I used to use it and I would tell my Dr how low my sats were

dropping and he always said that wasn't possible because they weren't that low

when I was in the office. I kind of quit using it because he told me it

probably wasn't right. I have since proven to him that it was right. I am

trying to buy another one.

>

> Could someone please tell me how to set up my signature so that it comes up

automately so I don't have to type it everytime I post.

>

> Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

>

Well I talked to my Dr. about using 02 at night with my CPAP machine and again I

was told NO. Because my Sleep Apnea test was done in my hometown by my PC, they

don't have record of the test at U of M, so the Dr won't perscribe 02 at night.

I told the Nurse that it was suggested to me by my Support Group that I should

be on 02 at night also, and she said that your situation was probably different

than mine.

This is so frustrating, I fought with the Dr. for a year trying to convince them

that my sats were dropping during the day and it wasn't until I went to

Pulmonary Rehab that I finialy have proof that they drop w/exertion, and I

finialy got 02 for exertion. But they won't do any tests to see if I am

dropping any other times.

Sometimes I think why do I even bother going to the Dr anymore.

I Hate This Disease.

Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

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The way to resolve it is very simple. You do an overnight oximeter test

while on the CPAP. If the doctor won't endorse that, you really need a

new doctor. As to them not looking at test results from elsewhere, very

proprietary. And, you really need an oximeter. You're guessing at your

day time needs when it would be so easy to know what they are. There are

many complicated things about the disease, but determining whether there

is a need for oxygen at night or how much is needed for activity during

the day is not complicated. Unfortunately, it seems your doctor has made

it so.

> > >

> > > I just started on 02 2 weeks ago. I feel soo much better that I

call it my New Best Friend. Right now my Dr. is still trying to find

out how much 02 I need and they are still adjusting it. I started on 2

lpm w/exertion, now it has been raised to 4 lpm w/exertion. feel so

much beter now, I have more energy, I'm not so tired anymore. Now when

I go to Pulmonary Rehab my sats stay in the 90's.

> > >

> > > I want to thank everyone of you who suggested I call my Dr. myself

instead of waiting until my PR was over and they sent the report to my

Dr. I still have 2 weeks of PR yet, this means I got a 4 week jump on

them. THANK YOU.

> > >

> > > I still have the problem that I forget to put my 02 on in he

morning. I will get up in the morning an start doing things around the

house and realize that I'm having trouble breathing then I will remember

my 02. Sometimes I even go away from the house and forget to take it,

then I have to go home and get it. Soon, hopefully, I will remember it

all the time. Did anyone else have this problem when they were on 02

w/exertion only?

> > > Have a nice day everyone. Me and my Best Friend are off for the

day.

> > >

> > > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

> > >

> >

> > Thank You again everyone. I was Dx in Aug. 08 with Sleep Apnea. I

have a CPAP machine. I asked my Dr if I should be using 02 at night

also and they told me No. Once again I will take your advice and call my

Dr. tommorrow and ask again if I should be using 02 at night with my

CPAP.

> > Oh how I wish that all doctors would get with the same program and

treat everyone the same so that we wouldn't have to tell our doctors

when we need something, they should know, they are the ones that went to

school to become a doctor.

> > Bruce; no I don't have an oximeter. I had one but my Granddaughters

bit off the button. I used to use it and I would tell my Dr how low my

sats were dropping and he always said that wasn't possible because they

weren't that low when I was in the office. I kind of quit using it

because he told me it probably wasn't right. I have since proven to him

that it was right. I am trying to buy another one.

> >

> > Could someone please tell me how to set up my signature so that it

comes up automately so I don't have to type it everytime I post.

> >

> > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

> >

>

> Well I talked to my Dr. about using 02 at night with my CPAP machine

and again I was told NO. Because my Sleep Apnea test was done in my

hometown by my PC, they don't have record of the test at U of M, so the

Dr won't perscribe 02 at night. I told the Nurse that it was suggested

to me by my Support Group that I should be on 02 at night also, and she

said that your situation was probably different than mine.

> This is so frustrating, I fought with the Dr. for a year trying to

convince them that my sats were dropping during the day and it wasn't

until I went to Pulmonary Rehab that I finialy have proof that they drop

w/exertion, and I finialy got 02 for exertion. But they won't do any

tests to see if I am dropping any other times.

> Sometimes I think why do I even bother going to the Dr anymore.

> I Hate This Disease.

>

> Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

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> > > > I just started on 02 2 weeks ago. I feel soo much better that I

> call it my New Best Friend. Right now my Dr. is still trying to find

> out how much 02 I need and they are still adjusting it. I started on 2

> lpm w/exertion, now it has been raised to 4 lpm w/exertion. feel so

> much beter now, I have more energy, I'm not so tired anymore. Now when

> I go to Pulmonary Rehab my sats stay in the 90's.

> > > >

> > > > I want to thank everyone of you who suggested I call my Dr. myself

> instead of waiting until my PR was over and they sent the report to my

> Dr. I still have 2 weeks of PR yet, this means I got a 4 week jump on

> them. THANK YOU.

> > > >

> > > > I still have the problem that I forget to put my 02 on in he

> morning. I will get up in the morning an start doing things around the

> house and realize that I'm having trouble breathing then I will remember

> my 02. Sometimes I even go away from the house and forget to take it,

> then I have to go home and get it. Soon, hopefully, I will remember it

> all the time. Did anyone else have this problem when they were on 02

> w/exertion only?

> > > > Have a nice day everyone. Me and my Best Friend are off for the

> day.

> > > >

> > > > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

> > > >

> > >

> > > Thank You again everyone. I was Dx in Aug. 08 with Sleep Apnea. I

> have a CPAP machine. I asked my Dr if I should be using 02 at night

> also and they told me No. Once again I will take your advice and call my

> Dr. tommorrow and ask again if I should be using 02 at night with my

> CPAP.

> > > Oh how I wish that all doctors would get with the same program and

> treat everyone the same so that we wouldn't have to tell our doctors

> when we need something, they should know, they are the ones that went to

> school to become a doctor.

> > > Bruce; no I don't have an oximeter. I had one but my Granddaughters

> bit off the button. I used to use it and I would tell my Dr how low my

> sats were dropping and he always said that wasn't possible because they

> weren't that low when I was in the office. I kind of quit using it

> because he told me it probably wasn't right. I have since proven to him

> that it was right. I am trying to buy another one.

> > >

> > > Could someone please tell me how to set up my signature so that it

> comes up automately so I don't have to type it everytime I post.

> > >

> > > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

> > >

> >

> > Well I talked to my Dr. about using 02 at night with my CPAP machine

> and again I was told NO. Because my Sleep Apnea test was done in my

> hometown by my PC, they don't have record of the test at U of M, so the

> Dr won't perscribe 02 at night. I told the Nurse that it was suggested

> to me by my Support Group that I should be on 02 at night also, and she

> said that your situation was probably different than mine.

> > This is so frustrating, I fought with the Dr. for a year trying to

> convince them that my sats were dropping during the day and it wasn't

> until I went to Pulmonary Rehab that I finialy have proof that they drop

> w/exertion, and I finialy got 02 for exertion. But they won't do any

> tests to see if I am dropping any other times.

> > Sometimes I think why do I even bother going to the Dr anymore.

> > I Hate This Disease.

> >

> > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

> >

>

Bruce; I asked my doctor to do a overnight oximeter test and he won't do

one,said I don't need it.

Jo Ann

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Has the sleep center done an overnight on you yet with the CPAP to check

how you do on it? If so, that would also show oxygen levels.

If not, then there is no way he can know whether you need a test or not.

Plain, simple, fact. I can't know. He can't know. Then there is no

reason whatsoever not to do an overnight oximeter with you on the CPAP.

The CPAP may well force enough air in to keep the oxygen up but no way

to know without testing.

I just can't understand why a doctor would be so uncooperative with a

patient as he has consistently been. It's your choice if you accept that

or not. I would be seeing a new doctor, personally. My pulmonologist

would not speak kindly of your experience.

As to the problem remembering to put it on, I don't know any of us who

have needed oxygen but not needed it for sleep. Now some have used CPAP

at night with oxygen through it and then switched to oxygen for day so

thats similar to what you are dealing with. Its a matter of developing

the habit. To me there are two signals that remind me. One, shortness of

breath. Two, a look at my oximeter. I mainly encounter when I sit and

turn the oxygen off, then stand and forget to turn it on. But I realize

very quickly as ten steps would drop me to 85% or so.

> > > > >

> > > > > I just started on 02 2 weeks ago. I feel soo much better that

I

> > call it my New Best Friend. Right now my Dr. is still trying to

find

> > out how much 02 I need and they are still adjusting it. I started

on 2

> > lpm w/exertion, now it has been raised to 4 lpm w/exertion. feel

so

> > much beter now, I have more energy, I'm not so tired anymore. Now

when

> > I go to Pulmonary Rehab my sats stay in the 90's.

> > > > >

> > > > > I want to thank everyone of you who suggested I call my Dr.

myself

> > instead of waiting until my PR was over and they sent the report to

my

> > Dr. I still have 2 weeks of PR yet, this means I got a 4 week jump

on

> > them. THANK YOU.

> > > > >

> > > > > I still have the problem that I forget to put my 02 on in he

> > morning. I will get up in the morning an start doing things around

the

> > house and realize that I'm having trouble breathing then I will

remember

> > my 02. Sometimes I even go away from the house and forget to take

it,

> > then I have to go home and get it. Soon, hopefully, I will remember

it

> > all the time. Did anyone else have this problem when they were on

02

> > w/exertion only?

> > > > > Have a nice day everyone. Me and my Best Friend are off for

the

> > day.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thank You again everyone. I was Dx in Aug. 08 with Sleep Apnea.

I

> > have a CPAP machine. I asked my Dr if I should be using 02 at night

> > also and they told me No. Once again I will take your advice and

call my

> > Dr. tommorrow and ask again if I should be using 02 at night with my

> > CPAP.

> > > > Oh how I wish that all doctors would get with the same program

and

> > treat everyone the same so that we wouldn't have to tell our doctors

> > when we need something, they should know, they are the ones that

went to

> > school to become a doctor.

> > > > Bruce; no I don't have an oximeter. I had one but my

Granddaughters

> > bit off the button. I used to use it and I would tell my Dr how low

my

> > sats were dropping and he always said that wasn't possible because

they

> > weren't that low when I was in the office. I kind of quit using it

> > because he told me it probably wasn't right. I have since proven to

him

> > that it was right. I am trying to buy another one.

> > > >

> > > > Could someone please tell me how to set up my signature so that

it

> > comes up automately so I don't have to type it everytime I post.

> > > >

> > > > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

> > > >

> > >

> > > Well I talked to my Dr. about using 02 at night with my CPAP

machine

> > and again I was told NO. Because my Sleep Apnea test was done in my

> > hometown by my PC, they don't have record of the test at U of M, so

the

> > Dr won't perscribe 02 at night. I told the Nurse that it was

suggested

> > to me by my Support Group that I should be on 02 at night also, and

she

> > said that your situation was probably different than mine.

> > > This is so frustrating, I fought with the Dr. for a year trying to

> > convince them that my sats were dropping during the day and it

wasn't

> > until I went to Pulmonary Rehab that I finialy have proof that they

drop

> > w/exertion, and I finialy got 02 for exertion. But they won't do

any

> > tests to see if I am dropping any other times.

> > > Sometimes I think why do I even bother going to the Dr anymore.

> > > I Hate This Disease.

> > >

> > > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

> > >

> >

> Bruce; I asked my doctor to do a overnight oximeter test and he won't

do one,said I don't need it.

>

> Jo Ann

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Jo Ann,

I have to chime in here and agree 110% with Bruce. You really need to give serious consideration to finding a new doctor. I find his refusal to give your requests consideration downright frightening. This is the same doctor who only agreed to oxygen when you had the proof from rehab that you needed it? Correct?

It would appear that he's not taking you seriously and it baffles me. But regardless of any of that the only thing you have control over is yourself. Either you accept this type of treatment from him or you look elsewhere for your medical care. My advice if you asked would be to run, not walk to another pulmonologist.

Beth

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To: Breathe-Support Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 7:59:10 PMSubject: Re: New Best Friend

> > > >> > > > I just started on 02 2 weeks ago. I feel soo much better that I> call it my New Best Friend. Right now my Dr. is still trying to find> out how much 02 I need

and they are still adjusting it. I started on 2> lpm w/exertion, now it has been raised to 4 lpm w/exertion. feel so> much beter now, I have more energy, I'm not so tired anymore. Now when> I go to Pulmonary Rehab my sats stay in the 90's.> > > >> > > > I want to thank everyone of you who suggested I call my Dr. myself> instead of waiting until my PR was over and they sent the report to my> Dr. I still have 2 weeks of PR yet, this means I got a 4 week jump on> them. THANK YOU.> > > >> > > > I still have the problem that I forget to put my 02 on in he> morning. I will get up in the morning an start doing things around the> house and realize that I'm having trouble breathing then I will remember> my 02. Sometimes I even go away from the house and forget to take it,> then I have to go home and get it. Soon, hopefully, I will

remember it> all the time. Did anyone else have this problem when they were on 02> w/exertion only?> > > > Have a nice day everyone. Me and my Best Friend are off for the> day.> > > >> > > > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07> > > >> > >> > > Thank You again everyone. I was Dx in Aug. 08 with Sleep Apnea. I> have a CPAP machine. I asked my Dr if I should be using 02 at night> also and they told me No. Once again I will take your advice and call my> Dr. tommorrow and ask again if I should be using 02 at night with my> CPAP.> > > Oh how I wish that all doctors would get with the same program and> treat everyone the same so that we wouldn't have to tell our doctors> when we need something, they should know, they are the ones that went to> school to become a doctor.> > > Bruce; no I

don't have an oximeter. I had one but my Granddaughters> bit off the button. I used to use it and I would tell my Dr how low my> sats were dropping and he always said that wasn't possible because they> weren't that low when I was in the office. I kind of quit using it> because he told me it probably wasn't right. I have since proven to him> that it was right. I am trying to buy another one.> > >> > > Could someone please tell me how to set up my signature so that it> comes up automately so I don't have to type it everytime I post.> > >> > > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07> > >> >> > Well I talked to my Dr. about using 02 at night with my CPAP machine> and again I was told NO. Because my Sleep Apnea test was done in my> hometown by my PC, they don't have record of the test at U of M, so the> Dr won't perscribe 02 at

night. I told the Nurse that it was suggested> to me by my Support Group that I should be on 02 at night also, and she> said that your situation was probably different than mine.> > This is so frustrating, I fought with the Dr. for a year trying to> convince them that my sats were dropping during the day and it wasn't> until I went to Pulmonary Rehab that I finialy have proof that they drop> w/exertion, and I finialy got 02 for exertion. But they won't do any> tests to see if I am dropping any other times.> > Sometimes I think why do I even bother going to the Dr anymore.> > I Hate This Disease.> >> > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07> >>Bruce; I asked my doctor to do a overnight oximeter test and he won't do one,said I don't need it.Jo Ann

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Had VATS 7/22 and the surgeon prescribed O2 at night now and it is so WONDERFUL

I don't feel as depressed and tired all day. But I still get out of breath, B/P

going up along with heartrate when I do anything during the day. Should I ask

for it at post-op checkup? At all checkups so far, this has happened in the

office with sats going down to 88 and then rising within 5 minutes. Or is the

fact that sats don't stay in 80's an indication that I don't need it during the

day. I'm very confused.- nne

> >

> > I just started on 02 2 weeks ago. I feel soo much better that I call it my

New Best Friend. Right now my Dr. is still trying to find out how much 02 I

need and they are still adjusting it. I started on 2 lpm w/exertion, now it has

been raised to 4 lpm w/exertion. feel so much beter now, I have more energy,

I'm not so tired anymore. Now when I go to Pulmonary Rehab my sats stay in the

90's.

> >

> > I want to thank everyone of you who suggested I call my Dr. myself instead

of waiting until my PR was over and they sent the report to my Dr. I still have

2 weeks of PR yet, this means I got a 4 week jump on them. THANK YOU.

> >

> > I still have the problem that I forget to put my 02 on in he morning. I

will get up in the morning an start doing things around the house and realize

that I'm having trouble breathing then I will remember my 02. Sometimes I even

go away from the house and forget to take it, then I have to go home and get it.

Soon, hopefully, I will remember it all the time. Did anyone else have this

problem when they were on 02 w/exertion only?

> > Have a nice day everyone. Me and my Best Friend are off for the day.

> >

> > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

> >

>

> Thank You again everyone. I was Dx in Aug. 08 with Sleep Apnea. I have a CPAP

machine. I asked my Dr if I should be using 02 at night also and they told me

No. Once again I will take your advice and call my Dr. tommorrow and ask again

if I should be using 02 at night with my CPAP.

> Oh how I wish that all doctors would get with the same program and treat

everyone the same so that we wouldn't have to tell our doctors when we need

something, they should know, they are the ones that went to school to become a

doctor.

> Bruce; no I don't have an oximeter. I had one but my Granddaughters bit off

the button. I used to use it and I would tell my Dr how low my sats were

dropping and he always said that wasn't possible because they weren't that low

when I was in the office. I kind of quit using it because he told me it

probably wasn't right. I have since proven to him that it was right. I am

trying to buy another one.

>

> Could someone please tell me how to set up my signature so that it comes up

automately so I don't have to type it everytime I post.

>

> Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

>

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Anyway i did not know you can get more than 5 liters of O2 until i joined this group and read numbers like 25 liters. Of course, that requires differnt eqipment and wearing a mask of which I am trying to get accustomed. Lincare came and provided two large liquid O2 reserviors. He placed one in the back of our vehicle so I would have plenty of oxygen for the 3 1/2 hour trip. I am learning a lot and look forward to healthier and more comfortable days.

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To: Breathe-Support Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:56:04 PMSubject: Re: Re: New Best FriendMB, I can add to this 02 stuff. At times when I am on my feet I feel like my legs have NO 02 within just a few min. yet my sats are in the

90's. I ask my Dr about this and she said as the disease progresses that is part of it for some.. lucky me.. I can get around for 60 or 70 feet

(the length of my house and porch) but that is about it. I just can not believe how miserable this disease is. I thought it couldn't

get any tougher that giving up my independence. it does..

Love and Prayers, Peggy

IPF 2004, Florida

Worry looks around,

Sorry looks back,

Faith looks up.

Ronnie,

Your experience echoes my own in some ways. If I go without oxygen or don't have it turned up high enough to meet my needs, my sats will drop but time passes before I actually feel different. I sometimes won't feel short of breath until I stop to rest. That's when I'm coughing and/or gasping.

I also learned the hard way that I had to check my sats and not necessarily trust the way I think I feel. Sometimes I think my body has accomodated to a lack of oxygen and doesn't react with "feeling lousy" as quickly as it should. That's my theory anyway.

Whatever the truth is the most important thing is check our sats, check our sats and then after that check our sats.

Beth

Moderator

Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

From: Ronnie Edmiston <ronnieedmiston@ yahoo.com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:06:06 PMSubject: Re: Re: New Best Friend

Jerry,

The Lincare people just left my house and I learned things that I should have known earlier and I will take a lot if not all the responsiblity for not knowing more. I thought of myself as really doing good with my disease because until the past month i did not "get out of breath". In my little oxygen deprived brain the pulseox reading was not nearly as important as how my breathing felt. The first 6 minute walk I failed in the study i am in meant little to me because when the alarm sounded i could have walked considerably farther,therfore, the pulseox was wrong. Oxygen was recommended to me but what was not explained was what damage could be done when O2 level dropped to a certain level and there was no supplimental O2 to recover. So when I went to my docs they would ask how I felt my response was fine because i could walk 30 min on treadmill without being out of breath or gasping for air, therefore

there really was not a reason to use O2 until I got out of breath recently.. (to be continued)

From: Jerry Brown <jerryb888 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:30:48 PMSubject: Re: Re: New Best Friend

nne,

..

I just finished doing a little test on the treadmill. I played Loui Loui and turned up the speed to 3.6 MPH until my sats went to 86%, then stepped off. It only took 15 seconds to get back above 90%. Five minutes getting back to 90% seems a little long at first glance.

We are all so different. The rate at which your blood oxygen level increases to a safe level depends on so many factors: heart efficiency, medications, lung health, weight, blood make-up, elevation above sea level and so many more. Also you must consider that your lung biopsy was just recently completed. As mine did eventually after biopsy, your oxygen levels may increase gradually.

Unfortunately for us, we must avoid getting into that oxygen-deficit spiral that comes when we overdo it; Our heart tries to compensate for lack of oxygen by increasing its pumping rate, and that in itself contributes to this spiral we are so familiar with. I try to avoid this at all cost, for the sake of my lungs as well as my heart. I find it helpful to sit back with a cold glass of ice water and breathe slow deep breaths until I know I am back in the green.

Just as you know when to ask your opthomologist for a new pair of glasses, with an oxymeter, you will know when it is time to ask your surgeon or pulmonologist for help with keeping your oxygen saturation at a healthy level. You can ask for it for the short term while you are still recovering. Then check your sats regularly and keep a diary of how you feel through the day. Take care of yourself.

Jerry/Mississippi/ 54/IPF/dx April 05.Who believes that hard times help us appreciate the good times even more.

From: teddyspenguins <teddyspenguins@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: New Best FriendTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 3:59 PM

Had VATS 7/22 and the surgeon prescribed O2 at night now and it is so WONDERFUL I don't feel as depressed and tired all day. But I still get out of breath, B/P going up along with heartrate when I do anything during the day. Should I ask for it at post-op checkup? At all checkups so far, this has happened in the office with sats going down to 88 and then rising within 5 minutes. Or is the fact that sats don't stay in 80's an indication that I don't need it during the day. I'm very confused.- nne > >> > I just started on 02 2 weeks ago. I feel soo much better that I call it my New Best Friend. Right now my Dr. is still trying to find out how much 02 I need and they are still adjusting it. I started on 2 lpm w/exertion, now it has been raised to 4 lpm w/exertion. feel so much beter now, I have more energy, I'm not so tired anymore. Now when I go to Pulmonary Rehab my sats stay in the 90's.> > > > I want to thank everyone of you who suggested I call my Dr. myself instead of waiting until my PR was over and they sent the report to my Dr. I still have 2 weeks of PR yet, this means I got a 4 week jump on them. THANK YOU. > > > > I still have the problem that I forget to put my 02 on in he morning. I will get up in the morning an start doing things around the house and realize that I'm having trouble breathing then I will remember my 02. Sometimes I even go away from the house and

forget to take it, then I have to go home and get it. Soon, hopefully, I will remember it all the time. Did anyone else have this problem when they were on 02 w/exertion only? > > Have a nice day everyone. Me and my Best Friend are off for the day.> > > > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07> >> > Thank You again everyone. I was Dx in Aug. 08 with Sleep Apnea. I have a CPAP machine. I asked my Dr if I should be using 02 at night also and they told me No. Once again I will take your advice and call my Dr. tommorrow and ask again if I should be using 02 at night with my CPAP.> Oh how I wish that all doctors would get with the same program and treat everyone the same so that we wouldn't have to tell our doctors when we need something, they should know, they are the ones that went to school to become a doctor.> Bruce; no I don't have an oximeter. I had one but my Granddaughters bit off the button. I used

to use it and I would tell my Dr how low my sats were dropping and he always said that wasn't possible because they weren't that low when I was in the office. I kind of quit using it because he told me it probably wasn't right. I have since proven to him that it was right. I am trying to buy another one.> > Could someone please tell me how to set up my signature so that it comes up automately so I don't have to type it everytime I post.> > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07>

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I bought a nice pulseox that is about the size of a clothes pin from Devon Medical for $100.00. I am using it many times a hour.

Ronnie

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:56:04 PMSubject: Re: Re: New Best FriendMB, I can add to this 02 stuff. At times when I am on my feet I feel like my legs have NO 02 within just a few min. yet my sats are in the

90's. I ask my Dr about this and she said as the disease progresses that is part of it for some.. lucky me.. I can get around for 60 or 70 feet

(the length of my house and porch) but that is about it. I just can not believe how miserable this disease is. I thought it couldn't

get any tougher that giving up my independence. it does..

Love and Prayers, Peggy

IPF 2004, Florida

Worry looks around,

Sorry looks back,

Faith looks up.

Ronnie,

Your experience echoes my own in some ways. If I go without oxygen or don't have it turned up high enough to meet my needs, my sats will drop but time passes before I actually feel different. I sometimes won't feel short of breath until I stop to rest. That's when I'm coughing and/or gasping.

I also learned the hard way that I had to check my sats and not necessarily trust the way I think I feel. Sometimes I think my body has accomodated to a lack of oxygen and doesn't react with "feeling lousy" as quickly as it should. That's my theory anyway.

Whatever the truth is the most important thing is check our sats, check our sats and then after that check our sats.

Beth

Moderator

Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

From: Ronnie Edmiston <ronnieedmiston@ yahoo.com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:06:06 PMSubject: Re: Re: New Best Friend

Jerry,

The Lincare people just left my house and I learned things that I should have known earlier and I will take a lot if not all the responsiblity for not knowing more. I thought of myself as really doing good with my disease because until the past month i did not "get out of breath". In my little oxygen deprived brain the pulseox reading was not nearly as important as how my breathing felt. The first 6 minute walk I failed in the study i am in meant little to me because when the alarm sounded i could have walked considerably farther,therfore, the pulseox was wrong. Oxygen was recommended to me but what was not explained was what damage could be done when O2 level dropped to a certain level and there was no supplimental O2 to recover. So when I went to my docs they would ask how I felt my response was fine because i could walk 30 min on treadmill without being out of breath or gasping for air, therefore

there really was not a reason to use O2 until I got out of breath recently... (to be continued)

From: Jerry Brown <jerryb888 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:30:48 PMSubject: Re: Re: New Best Friend

nne,

..

I just finished doing a little test on the treadmill. I played Loui Loui and turned up the speed to 3.6 MPH until my sats went to 86%, then stepped off. It only took 15 seconds to get back above 90%. Five minutes getting back to 90% seems a little long at first glance.

We are all so different. The rate at which your blood oxygen level increases to a safe level depends on so many factors: heart efficiency, medications, lung health, weight, blood make-up, elevation above sea level and so many more. Also you must consider that your lung biopsy was just recently completed. As mine did eventually after biopsy, your oxygen levels may increase gradually.

Unfortunately for us, we must avoid getting into that oxygen-deficit spiral that comes when we overdo it; Our heart tries to compensate for lack of oxygen by increasing its pumping rate, and that in itself contributes to this spiral we are so familiar with. I try to avoid this at all cost, for the sake of my lungs as well as my heart. I find it helpful to sit back with a cold glass of ice water and breathe slow deep breaths until I know I am back in the green.

Just as you know when to ask your opthomologist for a new pair of glasses, with an oxymeter, you will know when it is time to ask your surgeon or pulmonologist for help with keeping your oxygen saturation at a healthy level. You can ask for it for the short term while you are still recovering. Then check your sats regularly and keep a diary of how you feel through the day. Take care of yourself.

Jerry/Mississippi/ 54/IPF/dx April 05.Who believes that hard times help us appreciate the good times even more.

From: teddyspenguins <teddyspenguins@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: New Best FriendTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 3:59 PM

Had VATS 7/22 and the surgeon prescribed O2 at night now and it is so WONDERFUL I don't feel as depressed and tired all day. But I still get out of breath, B/P going up along with heartrate when I do anything during the day. Should I ask for it at post-op checkup? At all checkups so far, this has happened in the office with sats going down to 88 and then rising within 5 minutes. Or is the fact that sats don't stay in 80's an indication that I don't need it during the day. I'm very confused.- nne > >> > I just started on 02 2 weeks ago. I feel soo much better that I call it my New Best Friend. Right now my Dr. is still trying to find out how much 02 I need and they are still adjusting it. I started on 2 lpm w/exertion, now it has been raised to 4 lpm w/exertion. feel so much beter now, I have more energy, I'm not so tired anymore. Now when I go to Pulmonary Rehab my sats stay in the 90's.> > > > I want to thank everyone of you who suggested I call my Dr. myself instead of waiting until my PR was over and they sent the report to my Dr. I still have 2 weeks of PR yet, this means I got a 4 week jump on them. THANK YOU. > > > > I still have the problem that I forget to put my 02 on in he morning. I will get up in the morning an start doing things around the house and realize that I'm having trouble breathing then I will remember my 02. Sometimes I even go away from the house and

forget to take it, then I have to go home and get it. Soon, hopefully, I will remember it all the time. Did anyone else have this problem when they were on 02 w/exertion only? > > Have a nice day everyone. Me and my Best Friend are off for the day.> > > > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07> >> > Thank You again everyone. I was Dx in Aug. 08 with Sleep Apnea. I have a CPAP machine. I asked my Dr if I should be using 02 at night also and they told me No. Once again I will take your advice and call my Dr. tommorrow and ask again if I should be using 02 at night with my CPAP.> Oh how I wish that all doctors would get with the same program and treat everyone the same so that we wouldn't have to tell our doctors when we need something, they should know, they are the ones that went to school to become a doctor.> Bruce; no I don't have an oximeter. I had one but my Granddaughters bit off the button. I used

to use it and I would tell my Dr how low my sats were dropping and he always said that wasn't possible because they weren't that low when I was in the office. I kind of quit using it because he told me it probably wasn't right. I have since proven to him that it was right. I am trying to buy another one.> > Could someone please tell me how to set up my signature so that it comes up automately so I don't have to type it everytime I post.> > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07>

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To: Breathe-Support Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:42:46 PMSubject: Re: Re: New Best Friend

Ronnie,

Have you measured your sats with and without O2 at a given speed on your treadmill? I found out the hard way after my biopsy (06/05) that I was doing myself possible harm by trying to "tuff it out". That's probably one of those unhealthy male attitudes we find ourselves strangled with. When I gave in and started using as much O2 as I needed, I started improving and feeling much more like doing what I knew was good for me. I have learned doctors don't have nearly enough time to prepare us for all we will have to face. 30 minutes every 4 to 6 months is hardly enough time to educate a patient. I am so thankful for this board. Had I known about this board 4 years ago, I would have know the way.

Jerry/Mississippi/ 54/IPF/dx April 05

Jerry?Mississippi/ 54/IPF/dx April 05Who believes that hard times help us appreciate the good times even more.

From: teddyspenguins <teddyspenguins@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: New Best FriendTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 3:59 PM

Had VATS 7/22 and the surgeon prescribed O2 at night now and it is so WONDERFUL I don't feel as depressed and tired all day. But I still get out of breath, B/P going up along with heartrate when I do anything during the day. Should I ask for it at post-op checkup? At all checkups so far, this has happened in the office with sats going down to 88 and then rising within 5 minutes. Or is the fact that sats don't stay in 80's an indication that I don't need it during the day. I'm very confused.- nne > >> > I just started on 02 2 weeks ago. I feel soo much better that I call it my New Best Friend. Right now my Dr. is still trying to find out how much 02 I need and they are still adjusting it. I started on 2 lpm w/exertion, now it has been raised to 4 lpm w/exertion. feel so much beter now, I have more energy, I'm not so tired anymore. Now when I go to Pulmonary Rehab my sats stay in the 90's.> > > > I want to thank everyone of you who suggested I call my Dr. myself instead of waiting until my PR was over and they sent the report to my Dr. I still have 2 weeks of PR yet, this means I got a 4 week jump on them. THANK YOU. > > > > I still have the problem that I forget to put my 02 on in he morning. I will get up in the morning an start doing things around the house and realize that I'm having trouble breathing then I will remember my 02. Sometimes I even go away from the house and

forget to take it, then I have to go home and get it. Soon, hopefully, I will remember it all the time. Did anyone else have this problem when they were on 02 w/exertion only? > > Have a nice day everyone. Me and my Best Friend are off for the day.> > > > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07> >> > Thank You again everyone. I was Dx in Aug. 08 with Sleep Apnea. I have a CPAP machine. I asked my Dr if I should be using 02 at night also and they told me No. Once again I will take your advice and call my Dr. tommorrow and ask again if I should be using 02 at night with my CPAP.> Oh how I wish that all doctors would get with the same program and treat everyone the same so that we wouldn't have to tell our doctors when we need something, they should know, they are the ones that went to school to become a doctor.> Bruce; no I don't have an oximeter. I had one but my Granddaughters bit off the button. I used

to use it and I would tell my Dr how low my sats were dropping and he always said that wasn't possible because they weren't that low when I was in the office. I kind of quit using it because he told me it probably wasn't right. I have since proven to him that it was right. I am trying to buy another one.> > Could someone please tell me how to set up my signature so that it comes up automately so I don't have to type it everytime I post.> > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07>

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i agree

i could be without o2 and feel fine -- then out of curiosity, i check my sat and it's in the low 90's -- sometimes in the 80's

sometimes your body doesn't tell you when you need o2 or to increase the lpm's

you need to check sat

now i have to restate my statement:

listen to your body AND check your SATs

if necessary, keep a record to inform your doc as to what is happening

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Subject: Re: Re: New Best FriendTo: Breathe-Support Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 7:38 PM

Ronnie,

Your experience echoes my own in some ways. If I go without oxygen or don't have it turned up high enough to meet my needs, my sats will drop but time passes before I actually feel different. I sometimes won't feel short of breath until I stop to rest. That's when I'm coughing and/or gasping.

I also learned the hard way that I had to check my sats and not necessarily trust the way I think I feel. Sometimes I think my body has accomodated to a lack of oxygen and doesn't react with "feeling lousy" as quickly as it should. That's my theory anyway.

Whatever the truth is the most important thing is check our sats, check our sats and then after that check our sats.

Beth

Moderator

Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

From: Ronnie Edmiston <ronnieedmiston@ yahoo.com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:06:06 PMSubject: Re: Re: New Best Friend

Jerry,

The Lincare people just left my house and I learned things that I should have known earlier and I will take a lot if not all the responsiblity for not knowing more. I thought of myself as really doing good with my disease because until the past month i did not "get out of breath". In my little oxygen deprived brain the pulseox reading was not nearly as important as how my breathing felt. The first 6 minute walk I failed in the study i am in meant little to me because when the alarm sounded i could have walked considerably farther,therfore, the pulseox was wrong. Oxygen was recommended to me but what was not explained was what damage could be done when O2 level dropped to a certain level and there was no supplimental O2 to recover. So when I went to my docs they would ask how I felt my response was fine because i could walk 30 min on treadmill without being out of breath or gasping for air, therefore

there really was not a reason to use O2 until I got out of breath recently.. (to be continued)

From: Jerry Brown <jerryb888 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:30:48 PMSubject: Re: Re: New Best Friend

nne,

..

I just finished doing a little test on the treadmill. I played Loui Loui and turned up the speed to 3.6 MPH until my sats went to 86%, then stepped off. It only took 15 seconds to get back above 90%. Five minutes getting back to 90% seems a little long at first glance.

We are all so different. The rate at which your blood oxygen level increases to a safe level depends on so many factors: heart efficiency, medications, lung health, weight, blood make-up, elevation above sea level and so many more. Also you must consider that your lung biopsy was just recently completed. As mine did eventually after biopsy, your oxygen levels may increase gradually.

Unfortunately for us, we must avoid getting into that oxygen-deficit spiral that comes when we overdo it; Our heart tries to compensate for lack of oxygen by increasing its pumping rate, and that in itself contributes to this spiral we are so familiar with. I try to avoid this at all cost, for the sake of my lungs as well as my heart. I find it helpful to sit back with a cold glass of ice water and breathe slow deep breaths until I know I am back in the green.

Just as you know when to ask your opthomologist for a new pair of glasses, with an oxymeter, you will know when it is time to ask your surgeon or pulmonologist for help with keeping your oxygen saturation at a healthy level. You can ask for it for the short term while you are still recovering. Then check your sats regularly and keep a diary of how you feel through the day. Take care of yourself.

Jerry/Mississippi/ 54/IPF/dx April 05.Who believes that hard times help us appreciate the good times even more.

From: teddyspenguins <teddyspenguins@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: New Best FriendTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 3:59 PM

Had VATS 7/22 and the surgeon prescribed O2 at night now and it is so WONDERFUL I don't feel as depressed and tired all day. But I still get out of breath, B/P going up along with heartrate when I do anything during the day. Should I ask for it at post-op checkup? At all checkups so far, this has happened in the office with sats going down to 88 and then rising within 5 minutes. Or is the fact that sats don't stay in 80's an indication that I don't need it during the day. I'm very confused.- nne > >> > I just started on 02 2 weeks ago. I feel soo much better that I call it my New Best Friend. Right now my Dr. is still trying to find out how much 02 I need and they are still adjusting it. I started on 2 lpm w/exertion, now it has been raised to 4 lpm w/exertion. feel so much beter now, I have more energy, I'm not so tired anymore. Now when I go to Pulmonary Rehab my sats stay in the 90's.> > > > I want to thank everyone of you who suggested I call my Dr. myself instead of waiting until my PR was over and they sent the report to my Dr. I still have 2 weeks of PR yet, this means I got a 4 week jump on them. THANK YOU. > > > > I still have the problem that I forget to put my 02 on in he morning. I will get up in the morning an start doing things around the house and realize that I'm having trouble breathing then I will remember my 02. Sometimes I even go away from the house and

forget to take it, then I have to go home and get it. Soon, hopefully, I will remember it all the time. Did anyone else have this problem when they were on 02 w/exertion only? > > Have a nice day everyone. Me and my Best Friend are off for the day.> > > > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07> >> > Thank You again everyone. I was Dx in Aug. 08 with Sleep Apnea. I have a CPAP machine. I asked my Dr if I should be using 02 at night also and they told me No. Once again I will take your advice and call my Dr. tommorrow and ask again if I should be using 02 at night with my CPAP.> Oh how I wish that all doctors would get with the same program and treat everyone the same so that we wouldn't have to tell our doctors when we need something, they should know, they are the ones that went to school to become a doctor.> Bruce; no I don't have an oximeter. I had one but my Granddaughters bit off the button. I used

to use it and I would tell my Dr how low my sats were dropping and he always said that wasn't possible because they weren't that low when I was in the office. I kind of quit using it because he told me it probably wasn't right. I have since proven to him that it was right. I am trying to buy another one.> > Could someone please tell me how to set up my signature so that it comes up automately so I don't have to type it everytime I post.> > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07>

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Yes, Beth, Often my hose comes unattached and I just go about doing my business and don't realize I don't have oxygen and it makes me wonder if I truly need it but when it is reattached I feel much better. I just don't seem to "feel" the difference until I start to gasp. Yes, I too think that my body has adapted to the lack of air. My 02 is 87 just sitting and talking without oxygen but I don't realize I need air. Funny isn't it? Joyce RudyAZ birds

Re: New Best FriendTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 3:59 PM

Had VATS 7/22 and the surgeon prescribed O2 at night now and it is so WONDERFUL I don't feel as depressed and tired all day. But I still get out of breath, B/P going up along with heartrate when I do anything during the day. Should I ask for it at post-op checkup? At all checkups so far, this has happened in the office with sats going down to 88 and then rising within 5 minutes. Or is the fact that sats don't stay in 80's an indication that I don't need it during the day. I'm very confused.- nne > >> > I just started on 02 2 weeks ago. I feel soo much better that I call it my New Best Friend. Right now my Dr. is still trying to find out how much 02 I need and they are still adjusting it. I started on 2 lpm w/exertion, now it has been raised to 4 lpm w/exertion. feel so much beter now, I have more energy, I'm not so tired anymore. Now when I go to Pulmonary Rehab my sats stay in the 90's.> > > > I want to thank everyone of you who suggested I call my Dr. myself instead of waiting until my PR was over and they sent the report to my Dr. I still have 2 weeks of PR yet, this means I got a 4 week jump on them. THANK YOU. > > > > I still have the problem that I forget to put my 02 on in he morning. I will get up in the morning an start doing things around the house and realize that I'm having trouble breathing then I will remember my 02. Sometimes I even go away from the house and forget to take it, then I have to go home and get it. Soon, hopefully, I will remember it all the time. Did anyone else have this problem when they were on 02 w/exertion only? > > Have a nice day everyone. Me and my Best Friend are off for the day.> > > > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07> >> > Thank You again everyone. I was Dx in Aug. 08 with Sleep Apnea. I have a CPAP machine. I asked my Dr if I should be using 02 at night also and they told me No. Once again I will take your advice and call my Dr. tommorrow and ask again if I should be using 02 at night with my CPAP.> Oh how I wish that all doctors would get with the same program and treat everyone the same so that we wouldn't have to tell our doctors when we need something, they should know, they are the ones that went to school to become a doctor.> Bruce; no I don't have an oximeter. I had one but my Granddaughters bit off the button. I used to use it and I would tell my Dr how low my sats were dropping and he always said that wasn't possible because they weren't that low when I was in the office. I kind of quit using it because he told me it probably wasn't right. I have since proven to him that it was right. I am trying to buy another one.> > Could someone please tell me how to set up my signature so that it comes up automately so I don't have to type it everytime I post.> > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07>

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Beth,

I'm going to ask for the 24 hour oximeter test. I never had the 6 minute walk

test - can I get that this week or do I have to recover longer from VATS. I

thought the worst was over but I did something really stupid tonight and lifted

something over 5 lbs. My incision really hurt for a while and my son yelled at

me " it's time we helped you for a change,just sit and rest! " . I really should

have asked him to help me- something I find hard to do- I can't get used to the

fact that I have limitations. Thanks for your advice on O2.

> > >

> > > I just started on 02 2 weeks ago. I feel soo much better that I call it my

New Best Friend. Right now my Dr. is still trying to find out how much 02 I need

and they are still adjusting it. I started on 2 lpm w/exertion, now it has been

raised to 4 lpm w/exertion. feel so much beter now, I have more energy, I'm not

so tired anymore. Now when I go to Pulmonary Rehab my sats stay in the 90's.

> > >

> > > I want to thank everyone of you who suggested I call my Dr. myself instead

of waiting until my PR was over and they sent the report to my Dr. I still have

2 weeks of PR yet, this means I got a 4 week jump on them. THANK YOU.

> > >

> > > I still have the problem that I forget to put my 02 on in he morning. I

will get up in the morning an start doing things around the house and realize

that I'm having trouble breathing then I will remember my 02. Sometimes I even

go away from the house and forget to take it, then I have to go home and get it.

Soon, hopefully, I will remember it all the time. Did anyone else have this

problem when they were on 02 w/exertion only?

> > > Have a nice day everyone. Me and my Best Friend are off for the day.

> > >

> > > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

> > >

> >

> > Thank You again everyone. I was Dx in Aug. 08 with Sleep Apnea. I have a

CPAP machine. I asked my Dr if I should be using 02 at night also and they told

me No. Once again I will take your advice and call my Dr. tommorrow and ask

again if I should be using 02 at night with my CPAP.

> > Oh how I wish that all doctors would get with the same program and treat

everyone the same so that we wouldn't have to tell our doctors when we need

something, they should know, they are the ones that went to school to become a

doctor.

> > Bruce; no I don't have an oximeter. I had one but my Granddaughters bit off

the button. I used to use it and I would tell my Dr how low my sats were

dropping and he always said that wasn't possible because they weren't that low

when I was in the office. I kind of quit using it because he told me it probably

wasn't right. I have since proven to him that it was right. I am trying to buy

another one.

> >

> > Could someone please tell me how to set up my signature so that it comes up

automately so I don't have to type it everytime I post.

> >

> > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

> >

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Jerry,

I'm from New Jersey.

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> > > > I just started on 02 2 weeks ago. I feel soo much better that I call it

my New Best Friend. Right now my Dr. is still trying to find out how much 02 I

need and they are still adjusting it. I started on 2 lpm w/exertion, now it has

been raised to 4 lpm w/exertion. feel so much beter now, I have more energy, I'm

not so tired anymore. Now when I go to Pulmonary Rehab my sats stay in the 90's.

> > > >

> > > > I want to thank everyone of you who suggested I call my Dr. myself

instead of waiting until my PR was over and they sent the report to my Dr. I

still have 2 weeks of PR yet, this means I got a 4 week jump on them. THANK YOU.

> > > >

> > > > I still have the problem that I forget to put my 02 on in he morning. I

will get up in the morning an start doing things around the house and realize

that I'm having trouble breathing then I will remember my 02. Sometimes I even

go away from the house and forget to take it, then I have to go home and get it.

Soon, hopefully, I will remember it all the time. Did anyone else have this

problem when they were on 02 w/exertion only?

> > > > Have a nice day everyone. Me and my Best Friend are off for the day.

> > > >

> > > > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

> > > >

> > >

> > > Thank You again everyone. I was Dx in Aug. 08 with Sleep Apnea. I have a

CPAP machine. I asked my Dr if I should be using 02 at night also and they told

me No. Once again I will take your advice and call my Dr. tommorrow and ask

again if I should be using 02 at night with my CPAP.

> > > Oh how I wish that all doctors would get with the same program and treat

everyone the same so that we wouldn't have to tell our doctors when we need

something, they should know, they are the ones that went to school to become a

doctor.

> > > Bruce; no I don't have an oximeter. I had one but my Granddaughters bit

off the button. I used to use it and I would tell my Dr how low my sats were

dropping and he always said that wasn't possible because they weren't that low

when I was in the office. I kind of quit using it because he told me it probably

wasn't right. I have since proven to him that it was right. I am trying to buy

another one.

> > >

> > > Could someone please tell me how to set up my signature so that it comes

up automately so I don't have to type it everytime I post.

> > >

> > > Jo Ann 53 MI UIP 9/07

> > >

> >

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